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标题[外电] 伟大的灰狼队就要有唐诗好的防守!
时间Sat Jan 4 00:17:23 2020
因为文字太多了,就懒得帮字加颜色,希望大家见谅XD
Statistically speaking, the Minnesota Timberwolves have been a more effective
defensive team every season of Karl-Anthony Towns’ career when Towns is on th
e bench than when he is on the floor. That disparity has never been more jarri
ng than it is this year.
根据数据,在唐诗的职业生涯中,当唐诗坐板凳时,比起他在场上,灰狼都是一支效率更
高的防守球队。而这种差距从未像今年这样令人震惊。
In 33 games this season, the Wolves have allowed 101.8 points per 100 possessi
ons when Towns has been off the floor, and when Towns plays their defensive ra
ting澵pikes to 114.5. For context, that 101.8 number falls between the efficie
ncies of the top two defenses in the NBA this season, the Milwaukee Bucks (101
.2) and the Toronto Raptors (103.9). The 114.5 number falls between the league
’s bottom two defenses this season, the Cleveland Cavaliers (113.7) and the W
ashington Wizards (115.9),乸ccording to NBA com.
在本赛季的33场比赛中,当唐诗在场下时时,灰狼队每百回合会让对手得101.8分,而唐
诗在场上时,灰狼则每百回合让对手得到114.5分。举例来说,根据NBA的网站,101.8这
个数字会介於本季全联盟防守前二好的队伍之间,分别是密尔瓦基公鹿(101.2)和多伦
多暴龙(103.9)。而114.5这个数字则会介於全联盟防守最差的两支球队之中,分别是克
里夫兰骑士(113.7)和华盛顿巫师(115.9)。
The only other time in Towns’ career his on/off disparity numbers have been t
his incongruous on the defensive was in Tom Thibodeau’s first year as the Wol
ves head coach. That’s an important piece of context because, in that 2016-17
season, Thibodeau completely overhauled Sam Mitchell’s defensive system. Thi
s adjusted the role Towns was asked to fill during his sophomore season.
唐诗职业生涯中唯一防守差异不大的一年,是老席担任灰狼总教练的第一年。这是一个重
要的背景,因为在2016-17赛季,老席彻底改革了Sam Mitchell的防守体系。这调整了唐
诗原本在大二赛季被要求担任的角色。
Another schematic change is taking place this season with Ryan Saunders as the
head coach. Saunders and his defensive coordinator, David Vanterpool, have no
t necessarily changed Towns’ duties; he still is the tentpole of a conservati
ve defensive scheme that asks the center to prioritize rim defense over perime
ter aggression. But still, it’s a new staff, new terminology and a different
plan. The stats say the learning curve here has again been steep for Towns.
另一个防守概念上的改变,则是自本赛季小桑担任总教练後。但小桑和他的防守教练老普
并不一定改变了唐诗的职责。他仍然是保守防守计画中的支柱,就是要求中锋将保护篮框
优先於防守中距离。但是,今年仍然是新的制服组,新的战术和新的防守策略。统计数据
显示,唐诗仍然还有许多要学习的。
(图我就不嵌惹)
https://i.imgur.com/WCWxN3C.png
That said, on/off numbers can be wonky; they don’t take in the context of who
the opponent is, and, more specifically, what players are on or off the floor
for that opponent. Having a clean break — game missed in their entirety — c
lears up a lot of that confusion in on/off splits. Up until these last three w
eeks, there had never really been a clean break for the Timberwolves and Towns
.
必须说,唐诗在不在场上的数字可能很奇怪。这数字并没有考虑对手是谁,更具体地说,
并没有考虑在场上应对对手的是先发还是板凳球员。真正意义的轮休,才能回答出这个数
字的意义。而直到过去三周,灰狼和唐诗并没有真正轮休过。
In his first three seasons in the league, Towns played in every game. Last sea
son he missed five games, but never more than two in a row. This season, Towns
has already missed 10 games; two for his early-season suspension and then the
last eight games with a right knee sprain. Those eight games give us an eight
-game “clean break” sample.
在唐诗进入联盟的前三个赛季中,唐诗没有缺席任何一场。上个赛季,他缺席了五场比赛
,但从没连续缺席两场过。本赛季,唐诗已经缺席了10场比赛。两场是他赛季初的禁赛,
然後是最後八场右膝扭伤。那八场比赛为我们提供了八场“真正意义的轮休”的样本。
In those eight KAT-less games, the Wolves are losing a lot — they’re 2-6. Bu
t that is largely a product of terrible offense. Only the dismal Atlanta Hawks
have had a lower offensive efficiency since Towns went down than the Wolves,
who are scoring 97.1 points per 100 possessions氽uring the stretchX down fro
m 108.3 before Towns’ injury (16th in the NBA). The defense in Towns’ absenc
e, though, is almost completely making up for that drop-off. Prior to the inju
ry, the Wolves were 22nd in the league in defensive efficiency (111.4 points a
llowed per 100 possessions). Since the injury, the Wolves are third in the lea
gue in defensive efficiency (101.4 points).
在那八场缺少唐诗的比赛中,灰狼直接输爆,这八场的战绩是2-6。但这在很大程度上是
可怕的进攻造成的。自从唐诗倒下以来,只有亚特兰大老鹰的进攻效率要比灰狼要低,灰
狼在此期间每100回合得分97.1分,低於唐诗受伤前的108.3分(NBA排名第16)。不过,
唐诗缺席期间的灰狼防守几乎完全弥补了这一下降。在受伤之前,灰狼的防守效率排在联
盟第22位(每100回合对手可以得到111.4分)。自受伤以後,灰狼的防守效率位居联盟第
三(101.4分)。
In somewhat of an effort to avoid putting Towns on blast, Saunders suggested t
hat this added defensive boost is a product of improved play from the wings.
为了不再让唐诗负担那麽重,小桑指出,最近的防守提升是来自於侧翼长足的进步。
“I think our physicality has improved, on the wings especially,” said Saunde
rs after the Wolves win over Brooklyn on Monday. “I think our wing players ar
e doing a good job of being aggressive on catch-and-shoot players, and doing a
good job of how we talk about contesting everything. That makes a difference.
When you have a high deflection game, like we have the last few games, you’r
e usually able to force teams into tougher shots or force them into turnovers.
”
小桑在周一灰狼战胜布鲁克林後说:”我认为我们的身体素质已经进步不少,尤其是在侧
翼上。” “我认为我们的侧翼在防守C&S上表现更为出色,整体防守也更有侵略性。当你
在高度轮转的比赛中(如我们最近几场比赛一样),通常可以迫使球队打出更勉强的投篮
或迫使他们失误。”
None of that is untrue, but it does undersell the importance of the center wit
hin this defensive scheme. Defensively, the wing, particularly the point-of-at
tack defender, is often connected to the center. The actions of the backline d
efender impact how the point-of-attack defender handles his man, particularly
when there is a screen.
这些言论都是对的,而这种防守策略也确实削弱了中锋的重要性。在防守端,侧翼,尤其
是防守主要进攻点的侧翼,经常会防守到中锋。尤其在挡拆防守下,中锋防守者的行动会
影响侧翼防守者如何处理他的对位。
https://i.imgur.com/Cwd251m.png
“The thing with defense is you gotta understand what you’re good at and what
you’re not good at,” said Josh Okogie when asked about the difference for h
im when it comes to playing with Towns versus the backup bigs, Gorgui Dieng, N
oah Vonleh and Jordan Bell. “A guy like J-Bell, he’s a smaller big, but he’
s very quick so he can be up on a ball screen. A guy like KAT, who is a rim pr
otector, G who is a rim protector, they can be further back to protect the rim
. A guy like Noah, who is kind of big but kind of small, it’s kinda weird, he
can kind of play up and also play back and be an in-between guy.”
乌骨鸡在被问到与唐诗,和替补大个子阿简、Vonleh、Bell一起打比赛时有何不同时,乌
骨鸡说:”防守最重要的是你得明白自己的擅长和不擅长的事情。” ”像J-Bell这样的
人,他是个小个子,但他很快,因此可以直接绕过掩护。像唐诗、阿简都是一个篮框保护
者,他们可以沉退来保护篮框。像Noah这样的人,虽然有点大,但又有点小,这有点奇怪
,他可以守外线,也可以沉退,像是那种in-between guy。
(乌骨鸡的访问照翻下来觉得很好笑XD)
Okogie has played 370 of his 751 minutes this season alongside Towns.啱n those
minutes, the Wolves have allowed 114.1 points per 100 possessions. In the 202
minutes he has played alongside Dieng, that defensive effectiveness improves
to 96.1 per 100 possessions. The number falls all the way to 94.0 in the 142 m
inutes Okogie has shared the floor with Vonleh. With Bell, it pops back up to
108.6 in 91 minutes — but 47 of those minutes also feature Towns on the floor
with both Okogie and Bell, where the number毪ubbles up to 117.9 in the three-
man lineup. Okogie has inarguably been a far more effective defender this seas
on when Towns sits and he is flanked by a different big on the backline.
乌骨鸡在本赛季上场的751分钟中有370分钟是跟唐诗一起打的。在那几分钟内,灰狼每10
0回合让对手得114.1分。而在与阿简在一起的202分钟中,防守效率提高到每100回合96.1
分。
在与Vonleh的142分钟内,这一数字一路跌至94.0。在跟Bell一起的情况下,他们俩在91
分钟内则弹出至108.6,但在唐诗、乌骨鸡、Bell的三人阵容中,该数字最高时达到117.9
。本赛季,当唐诗坐在那里时,乌骨鸡无疑是其他大个子身边最为有效的防守者。
“It’s just different,” Okogie continued. “It’s like you knowing your pers
onnel, knowing if KAT or G is in the game, let me be extra aggressive and forc
e him to the rim to the shot-blocker. Or if J-Bell is in the pick-and-roll, I
can kind of try to get over the screen and take my time because J-Bell is goin
g to be there. Then Noah, you just pick and choose your spots.”
“这就是不一样,”乌骨鸡接着说:”这就像你知道你自己的个性,知道如果是唐诗或阿
简在场上,就让我更加有侵略性,并把对手逼到篮框附近让他们盖。如果是J-Bell在挡拆
防守中,我则可以试着惬意地穿过掩护,因为我知道J-Bell会在那罩着我。若是Noah,你
就是随便挑个对位就行了。”
(以下为搭配图片的战术解说,建议开着网页版看)
It’s interesting that Okogie puts Towns into the same shot-blocker phylum as
he does Dieng. That’s more theoretical than anything because opponents have a
n effective field goal shooting percentage of 53.2 percent when Towns is the s
hot-blocker next to Okogie and 43.9 percent when it is Dieng in the shot-block
er role next to Okogie. For Okogie and the other Timberwolves wings, they can
rely on the high-level recognition skills of Dieng that put him in the right p
osition in the lane, sometimes extinguishing the offensive attack altogether.
有趣的是,乌骨鸡将唐诗和阿简放在同样的火锅手的位置。因为当唐诗是紧随乌骨鸡的火
锅手时,对手的有效投篮命中率为53.2%,而当阿简紧随乌骨鸡时,对手的有效投篮命中
率为43.9%。 对於乌骨鸡和其他灰狼的侧翼,他们可以依靠阿简的高水平的辨识技能,
把阿简放在正确的位置,有时可以完全消灭对手的积极进攻。
https://i.imgflip.com/3kzmlh.gif
Towns is slower to react, and oftentimes he prioritizes something different th
an his wing partner. On this play, he is the theoretical rim protector but he
allows his mind to prioritize staying with Dario Saric rather than defending t
he rim. That’s what Phoenix wants, and it’s not what Keita Bates-Diop is exp
ecting.
唐诗的反应比较慢,通常他会考虑不同於侧翼防守者考虑的事情。 在这场比赛中,他是
理论上的篮框保护者,但他的头脑优先考虑留住Saric而不是扞卫篮筐,而那就是太阳队
想要的,却不是KBD所期望的。
https://i.imgflip.com/3kzn86.gif
In ways, Towns is more of an “in-between” guy, like Vonleh. But he often str
uggles with his decisiveness in these situations. This can put him a step behi
nd in his stunt toward the ball-handler, often leaving his man open for a drop
-off.
在这边,唐诗更像是上面提到的in-between guy,像vonleh一样。但唐诗在这种情况下通
常欠缺决断力。这会导致他距离持球者有一步之隔,又让他的对位有空接的机会。
https://i.imgflip.com/3kznfv.gif
Conversely, Vonleh prioritizes his man during in-between situations, particula
rly when he knows that the player is a lob threat. He stays home but is always
cognizant of stunting just enough. In the below play, when Vonleh recognizes
Okogie has not been clipped by the screen, he knows there is no need to over p
ursue ball-handler. A contested floater is something he is willing to live wit
h.
相反的,Vonleh在这种情况下会优先看好他的对位,尤其当他知道对手是空接威胁时。他
踩住低位并尽量盯着持球者。以下的play中,当Vonleh注意到乌骨鸡从挡拆中复位後,他
就知道不必过度去协防持球者了,受干扰的抛投是他乐意接受的结果。
https://i.imgflip.com/3kznql.gif
“I just thought that Noah did a great job with Thompson,” said Saunders afte
r the Cleveland game. “In terms of what we call stunt-contests in support, gu
arding both the dribbler and then guarding the roll man… I think he had four
breakups at the rim. He did a good job of trying to take care of that lob, whi
ch is part of the Cleveland offense.”
小桑在对克利夫兰的比赛後说:”我认为Noah在防守TT的方面做得很好。” “就我们称
之为干扰防守而言,既要防守持球者,又要中锋roll in….我认为TT篮框处有四次机会。
但他在防守空接方面做得很好,而这也是克利夫兰进攻的一部分。”
As far playing “up on a ball screen,” as Okogie describes Bell can do, Towns
is rarely afforded that opportunity within this scheme. Saunders and Vanterpo
ol want Towns on the backline. The up situations by Bell often feature Towns b
ehind the play as the last line of defense. Really, Bell is proving to be more
of a power forward than he is a center.
在”走上绕过掩护”的play中,就像乌骨鸡形容Bell可以做到的程度一样,唐诗在这种pl
ay中很少能应对这种状况。 小桑和老普希望唐诗可以坐镇底线。Bell在这种进攻情况常
常以唐诗为最後防线。 Bell也证明了他更适合打大前而不是中锋。
https://i.imgflip.com/3kzo13.gif

Perhaps someday it will be this type of role as a pseudo-power forward that fr
ees Towns to find his best self as a defender. But on this roster, and within
this scheme, Towns needs to focus on emulating the play of Dieng and Vonleh, t
rue backline fives.
也许有一天,这种类型的伪大前锋角色将解放唐诗,让他找到自己最好的防守位置。 但
是在这个位置和情境中,唐诗需要专注於模仿阿简和Vonleh的打法,真正的五号。
Saunders says Towns has been with the team every day during his rehabilitation
process. He hasn’t been participating in the practices over the stretch but
he has been there on the sidelines. And in the film room, Towns has been taske
d with learning.
小桑说,唐诗在复健过程中每天都陪着团队。他一直没有参加练习,但是他一直待在场上
,在录影带室里,唐诗一直在学习。
“When a guy is injured, we don’t tell them, ‘hey just go do your rehab duri
ng practice, just go do your rehab during film,'” said Saunders. “We want th
em to be a part of everything, whether it be the film session, whether it be w
atching practice because there is teaching going on. That’s something that in
our organization that we stress a lot: make sure that we’re correcting.”
小桑说:”当一个人受伤时,我们不会告诉他们,’嘿,在练习时去做复健就好,你就在
看录影带时复健就好。’” “我们希望他们参与球队的每个部分,无论是看录影带,还
是看练习,因为随时都是在学习。在球队中,这是我们一直强调的事情:确保我们时刻都
在订正自己的错误。”
In particular, Saunders referenced Towns learning from the way Vonleh has illu
strated how to effectively handle the drop against a pick-and-roll. “When you
have a guy who is pretty good playing both the dribbler as well as the roll-m
an, he’s able to teach KAT some things,” Saunders explained.
特别是,小桑指出了唐诗从Vonleh的影片中,学习到如何应对挡拆持球者和roll man。小
桑解释说:”当你有一个既能运球又能当roll man的球员时,他就能教KAT一些东西。”
It’s also should be noted that Towns’ on/off splits likely wouldn’t be so s
taggering if he’d been able to play during this lighter stretch of competitio
n within the schedule. Sure, Vonleh did a good job against Cleveland, but it’
s the Cavs… It’s unlikely the defense would have completely cratered with To
wns on the floor against such a poor team. And while the defense played well w
ith Dieng on the backline against Brooklyn, part of that defense success was j
ust the product of a short-handed Nets team continuing to struggle with their
shot. Brooklyn was the only team in the league to convert a lower percentage o
f their 3-point attempts during the month of December than Minnesota. It’s un
likely Towns’ presence would have all of a sudden heated them up.
还应该注意的是,如果唐诗在比较轻松的比赛中出赛,那麽唐诗在场上或板凳的防守数据
差异就不会那麽令人惊讶。 当然,Vonleh对阵克利夫兰的表现出色,但这毕竟还是骑士
……似乎不太可能使唐诗陷入困境。 尽管防守端阿简在对阵布鲁克林的比赛中表现不错
,但防守成功的部分原因,是缺少人手的篮网持续手感冰冷。 布鲁克林是联盟中唯一一
支在12月份的三分球命中率低於灰狼的球队。 唐诗的存在不太可能突然使他们升温。
The team as a whole has been playing far more connected defensively. They put
together perhaps their best defensive effort of the season as a team against M
ilwaukee on Wednesday night. The wings swarmed around Giannis Antetokounmpo al
l night, alleviating the pressure of the one-on-one matchup Dieng and Naz Reid
took on. If they got away with Reid on Giannis, it’s very unlikely that it w
ould have been worse with Towns out there.
但整个球队在防守上的联系更加紧密。 星期三晚上对阵密尔沃基的比赛,可能是本赛季
最好的防守。 整个晚上,侧翼在对字母哥蜂拥而上,减轻了阿简跟Naz一对一的压力。
如果守字母哥的不是Naz而是唐诗,不可能情况会变得更糟的。
Still, Towns has to do more on an individual level defensively. That’s just a
fact. Without a commitment to improving on that end of the floor from their b
est player, the Wolves aren’t going anywhere this season, or ever. The next g
reat Timberwolves team, if that ever materializes, features Towns playing grea
t defense. That’s not an option in those greener pastures; it’s a requiremen
t.
尽管如此,唐诗还是必须在个人防守上做更多努力。如果灰狼最好的球员没有改进他的防
守,灰狼本赛季或任何时候都不会前进。 下一支伟大的灰狼队,如果能实现的话,就一
定得配上唐诗的好防守才行。
网址:
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个人心得:第一次翻这麽长的文章…本来就有想说月底忙完要来翻译的,算是一口气补上
了这阵子没跟到的比赛XD
希望唐诗未来的防守继续加油啊啊啊,灰狼的未来就看你了!
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3F:推 vince4687: 辛苦了 01/04 00:28
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4F:推 AndrewWiggs: 感谢 01/04 00:35
5F:推 xo45527788: 团队有找到问题 看KAT怎麽努力了 想看围巾场上场下的 01/04 00:35
6F:→ a62312000: 感谢翻译!!! 01/04 00:50
7F:→ a62312000: 这是不是代表就目前而言,整个教练团的的方向就是让双 01/04 00:50
8F:→ a62312000: 状元打的更舒适,围巾进攻时,其他四个人站在外线使进 01/04 00:50
9F:→ a62312000: 功简单化,让围巾切入更容易,唐斯在防守时,侧翼帮忙 01/04 00:50
10F:→ a62312000: 干扰进攻者,使唐斯防守负担减少 01/04 00:50
11F:→ a62312000: 唐斯不只要学习怎麽防档拆,也要防对方的三分,记得有 01/04 00:54
12F:→ a62312000: 几场如果对方的4,5号位有投射能力的,唐斯都让对方投得 01/04 00:54
13F:→ a62312000: 蛮爽的 01/04 00:54
14F:推 BoYuYou: 辛苦了! 01/04 01:02
15F:→ twjeremy: 进攻端的改变季初的时候大家算是有目共睹 倒是防守端真 01/04 02:12
16F:→ twjeremy: 的要到近期才有慢慢改善 期待双状元跟layman回归时也能 01/04 02:12
17F:→ twjeremy: 继续保持这种表现就是了 01/04 02:12
18F:推 xo45527788: 刚查一下 Dieng Drpm3.多 可能是这几场防守比较好的 01/04 02:34
19F:→ xo45527788: 原因之一 01/04 02:34
20F:→ xo45527788: Drpm还排中锋第三... 01/04 02:36
21F:推 yzuboy: 谢谢翻译 太棒了 01/04 04:55
22F:推 k952gfjk: 用心翻译,感谢 01/04 09:16
23F:推 Leaflock: 优文推 辛苦了 01/04 09:46
24F:推 HCLG: 本季唐诗守挡拆真的就是狂退 又不够沈底 01/04 12:15
25F:→ HCLG: 不是被射满脸就是被轻松空接的画面很多 01/04 12:16
26F:→ HCLG: 加油吧 希望整体防守改善後战绩也扶摇直上 01/04 12:17
27F:推 ricatii: 感谢 01/04 12:56
28F:推 cidcheng: 奇怪我印象季初他的防守还算不错怎麽後来直线往下 01/04 13:49
29F:→ vince4687: 刚开始前几场生猛 之後被对手发现弱点卯起来档拆打外围 01/04 14:08
30F:→ vince4687: 矮子 灰狼就开始大量失分了 01/04 14:08
31F:推 sato111: 之前被看不起的Dieng又重振了 01/04 23:39
32F:推 sato111: Towns的进攻已经是联盟顶级了 01/05 00:02
33F:推 balabalaba: 有乳摸湖人那边想换Roco,筹码有裤子马....要上吗? 01/05 01:40
34F:推 Leaflock: 应该是没吧 炒作而已 01/05 01:46
35F:→ Leaflock: 防守直线往下应该是因为肌腱炎之类的东西 他这季有这个 01/05 01:47
36F:→ Leaflock: 问题(这个伤只能等他好)防守使不上力 01/05 01:47
37F:推 vince4687: 哈哈哈 那个就嘴炮的吧 01/05 01:52
38F:→ vince4687: 不然RoCo换库子马加KCP 薪资匹配 如果是我我换啊 01/05 01:52
39F:→ xo45527788: 这2个不是雷雷的... Roco好多了 01/05 02:10
40F:→ xo45527788: 每次看湖迷在骂一定有这2个其中一个 01/05 02:12
41F:→ xo45527788: 听Jon说要换Roco的话代价很高 看起来不想卖 01/05 02:13
42F:推 wakayama: 凌晨看高尔夫篇 这气氛不会换吧 01/05 07:40
43F:推 k952gfjk: 不过KCP这季好像有在振作,但不知道是不是LBJ的灵气 01/05 16:52
44F:推 bycarbird: 辛苦了 谢谢您的翻译 01/06 13:01
45F:推 bycarbird: 说真的 看到阿简又被捡起来 KDP上场表现不错 真的很开 01/06 13:05
46F:→ bycarbird: 心 01/06 13:05
47F:→ bycarbird: RoCo的部分 我还是觉得四号对他来说有点吃力 01/06 13:05
48F:→ wakayama: 希望补个蓝领四号分担一下 01/07 00:47
49F:→ wakayama: Bell常常被带出去 01/07 00:47