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标题[外电] The good and bad of Sam Mitchell
时间Mon Dec 7 22:12:25 2015
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Trail Blazers 109, Timberwolves 103: The good and bad of Sam Mitchell
对拓荒者赛後分析:Sam Mitchell本季执教的优点和缺点
Posted by Zach Harper Posted on December 6, 2015 2015-16 Season
作者:Zach Harper
The pitchforks are out. The prickly Sam Mitchell has been old school and
hard-nosed during the first 19 games of his interim stint with the Minnesota
Timberwolves. He gets blamed in wins. He gets blamed for losses. He gets
blamed for not building upon the surprise start to the regular season that
has everybody wondering just how quickly this current roster build can get to
the postseason.
群情激愤。
易怒的Sam Mitchell在灰狼队前19场的执教内容,显现出的是守旧、固执的一面,
他赢了被骂,他输了被骂,他开季没有惊奇的表现被骂,
大家都在期望灰狼队能够尽速重返季後赛。
For those of us covering the team (more locally than afar), the dismissive
nature and rudeness of his Q&A sessions is growing tiresome. Now, that shouldn
’t really have much to do with our assessment of his coaching job, but when
we’re trying to figure out answers to why things go correctly or poorly and
he acts like this… it leaves us up to filling in the gaps ourselves.
对於我们这些关注球队的当地人来说,他在访问中轻蔑和无礼的态度更加让人厌倦。
这主要并不是我们在评定他执教上的问题,而是当我们尝试着询问他任何调度的思考脉络
时,他就是这样的态度回应... 这让我们之间产生了裂痕。
Mitchell赛後记者会的影片Clip:
http://videos.tout.com/dry/mp4/578a09c820994dfe.mp4
The question here is why did Sam take Karl-Anthony Towns out of the game with
37 seconds left and the Wolves down two. Towns’ defense has been good — not
just good for a 20-year old rookie big man but good for any NBA player. When
Mitchell saw Terry Stotts had replaced Ed Davis with Al-Farouq Aminu in the
game, he brought Tayshaun Prince into the game to defend Aminu. The question
for Sam was why take Towns out in this situation.
这个让Mitchell不爽的问题,
是为什麽在最後37秒灰狼落後两分的时候要用Prince换掉Towns。
Towns的防守很好,这不是说对於一个20岁新秀防守好,
而是整个NBA来看他都是防守很好。
当Mitchell看到Terry Stotts(拓荒者教练)用Al-Farouq Aminu换掉Ed Davis时,
他换上了Prince来防Aminu。
问题在於为什麽Mitchell要这麽做?
Mitchell’s response of the Blazers putting a small forward (Aminu) who can
dribble into the game is fine, I guess (we’ll get into that in a minute).
The idea of positional boxes to put players in is a bit archaic because the
attributes should outweigh the listed position on a piece of paper, but there
is merit to that. It’s the way he justifies it that is disheartening.
Mitchell的回应是因为拓荒者放上了一个可以运球切入的小前锋。
这似乎很合理?(我後面会纠正此论点)
这种根据球员位置来摆放对位的方式真是有点太古老了,
球员本身的属性、比赛的现况要比这种纸上的球员位置标记要重要多了,
但我发现这样摆还是有优点的,这优点就是让他可以拿来在记者会当作藉口做交代,
这真是让人沮丧。
To then ask, “did y’all see that?” and correct Britt Robson about the Ed
Davis mix-up by saying, “Before you ask me a question, make sure it’s the
right question” is where you lose me (not that he would care he lost me; he
once tried to kick me out of his office for asking him questions he knew I
was there to ask and he agreed to answer).
他在回应後接着说「你们都有仔细看比赛吗?」
并纠正Britt Robson说的为什麽拿Prince来防Ed Davis:
「在你问我问题前,请确定这是个正确的问题。」
这态度真是让人不敢领教。
(当然他也不会在乎我的想法,我曾经在他办公室问他问题时被他尝试赶出办公室过。)
Britt got it wrong and admitted such on Twitter. But the question was valid
and the reasoning doesn’t appear to have an updated scouting report on both
his player and the opposing team’s player. Aminu is technically a small
forward (although he’s played a quarter of his time at the 4 this season).
As far as one who can dribble, he’s had 85 drives this season and taken 44
shots on those drives. He’s shooting 27.3% on these shots and has registered
just 42 points because he gets to the free throw line quite a bit. That’s a
horrendous level of offensive production on drives.
Britt在Twitter承认自己把Aminu说成了Davis。
但这调度问题确实还是存在阿,
Aminu名义上算是一个小前锋(虽然本赛季他打了些四号位),
虽然说他可以运球切入,本赛季他切入了85次,并投了44球,
但他这些投篮的命中率仅仅只有27.3%,并只拿到了42分,因为他只有要到一些罚球。
他这切入进攻效率是相当差的。
Not to mention, if you’re going to have someone beat you, wouldn’t it be
better to have them see a potential Aminu vs. Towns match-up and say, “there
’s our go-to play” instead?
更不用说,如果都是要被对方拿分,
让Aminu跟Towns放对,然後说「这就是我们所能做的最好防守了。」不是更好?
Towns is capable of staying with Aminu. Not only that, he’s also a much
better rim protector than Gorgui Dieng is, despite the difference in
experience. So far this season, Towns has defended 168 shots at the rim (8.8
per game) and allowed just 44.6%. Of players who defend at least 8 shots at
the rim per game, Towns is the fourth best player in the league. Only Rudy
Gobert (an absurd 35.7%), Brook Lopez (I have no idea), and Hassan Whiteside
allow a lower percentage.
Towns有能力跟上Aminu,还不只是这样,
Towns也是比Dieng好上许多的禁区防守者,即使他的NBA比赛经验还没Dieng多。
球季到目前为止,Towns防守了168个禁区投篮(每场8.8个),让对手命中率只有44.6%,
这在所有每场防守至少8个禁区投篮的防守者来说,他是联盟第四优异的,
只有Rudy Gobert(夸张的35.7%)、Brook Lopez(这我不知该说什麽)、Hassan Whiteside
这三个人限制对手禁区投篮命中率比他低。
Dieng (who I’ve been tough on but has played much better the last two weeks)
allows 55.8% on 5.5 attempts per game. Of all players defending at least 5.5
attempts at the rim per game, Dieng is the sixth worst rim protector in the
NBA. This isn’t a new thing, either. In the chaos of last season, Gorgui
allowed 55.7% at the rim in 10.5 attempts per game. He’s simply not the rim
protector we assume he’s supposed to be.
Dieng(刚开季打的挣扎,但在过去两个礼拜打得好很多。)让对手禁区命中率是55.8%,
平均每场防守5.5球。这个数据是联盟第六差的。
这并不是什麽新鲜事了,上个球季,Dieng让对手禁区命中率是55.7%,平均每场防守
10.5球。简单讲,他就是个不及格的禁区防守者。
There are many issues with this possession:
https://cdn.streamable.com/video/mp4/bttz.mp4
看这个连结可以了解一下这个Play到底是怎麽一回事。
Ricky Rubio does a great job of denying Damian Lillard for as long as he did,
but I’m not sure you’re ever keeping the ball out of his hands there. And
let’s not pretend that Towns being in the game immediately stops this shot
from Lillard from 1) happening or 2) going in. But it does appear to be a
strategic mistake fraught with poor assumptions made by the coach. The fact
that he catches someone asking a question in a mistake or with a loophole
doesn’t absolve him of his mistake.
Rubio尽力把Lillard限制在外围了,但在那个位置基本上不太可能抄掉那球。
我们不是说Towns上场就一定可以阻止那球投出或投进,
但不放Towns上场很明显是教练策略上的错误。
这不是他抓住记者讲错一个人名就可以把这个错误抵销掉的。
This leads to a greater question about what kind of job Mitchell has done.
The majority of my interactions with fans during and after games (both wins
and losses) are them killing Mitchell. He gets none of the credit for when
things go well and seems to get 100% of the criticism (well, minus whatever
overreaction we’re having to Zach LaVine) when things are bad. I want to
start off with what Mitchell is doing correctly before we get to the problems
with this team.
这也延伸出了一个更大的问题,到底Mitchell本赛季做了些什麽?
大部分我在比赛中或比赛後所接触的球迷都说他们要杀了Mitchell。
他没有赢的任何掌声,所有批评都集中在他身上。
(可能要扣除掉一些对LaVine的过度反应)
因此,我想要先说一些Mithell做对了什麽事情,接着再提他做错了什麽。
What Sam Mitchell is getting right
Sam Mitchell做对了什麽?
1. The thing I’m entirely sick of hearing about is Sam Mitchell getting
blamed for the team losing big leads. You’re not praising him when the team
gets the big lead so don’t kill him when the team loses the lead. This is
the NBA and runs happen all the time. Great teams have them and have them
happen against them. This is just a part of professional basketball.
我不认为拿球队在大比分领先下还被逆转来责骂Mitchell是对的。
就像你不会在球队大比分领先时赞美他一样。
这是NBA,而这种事情是很常见的。
即使是很好的球队也会这样输掉球赛,这就是职业篮球的一部分。
The Wolves are one of the best first quarter teams in the NBA. They’re tied
for ninth in first quarter net rating (+4.2) with the Bucks. That’s not
nothing. Mitchell has them well-prepared and motivated to play the game. There
’s no problem with admitting that’s the case.
灰狼队是NBA第一节打得最好的球队之一,
他们在第一节胜负分净值(+4.2)与公鹿队并列联盟第九位,
这代表Mitchell让球队在开场前就准备好、有动力去赢得比赛,你不能忽略这个事实。
2. Mitchell has fostered an identity of being aggressive attacking the
defense. This has resulted in the Wolves ranking first in free throws per
field goal attempt and third in overall free throw rate. Considering the
Wolves shoot 80.6% from the free throw line (only 52 teams in NBA history
have done this heading into the season), that’s a big advantage for keeping
them competitive offensively.
Mitchell要球员打出更多的进攻侵略性,
这反映在灰狼队是目前联盟每次投篮获得罚球数的第一名,
同时也是整体罚球率的第三名。
考量到灰狼队的罚球命中率高达80.6%(历史上只有52支球队达到这个水准),
这对於球队的进攻是非常有助益的。
3. The Wolves regularly play three 20-year old players and yet somehow are
14th in the NBA in turnover rate. A low turnover rate has often been a staple
of Mitchell’s offenses (top 5 in all four full seasons coaching the
Raptors). Teaching these guys how to value and take care of the ball is very
important toward the development process, not just individually but from a
team execution standpoint as well. Valuing the basketball is key toward
playing a balanced attack.
灰狼队的正常轮替中有三位20岁以下的年轻球员,
但在失误率的排行上却排在联盟第14位(排名越高,失误率越低)。
Mitchell的进攻根本一直是强调低失误率(在暴龙的4个赛季中,都排在联盟前五)。
教会这些年轻球员要重视每个环节、照顾好球是在发展过程中非常重要的,
这不仅是对於个人,也是对於球队。
4. Defensively, the Wolves have played inspired basketball. It’s been a bit
of a roller coaster depending on how the Wolves have played defensively when
Rubio is sitting out, but they currently sit 17th in the NBA in defensive
rating. That comes with a difference between Rubio on the court (defensive
rating of 94.4) and Rubio off the court (106.4). The Wolves don’t foul a lot
and they defend the 3-point shot pretty well. Mitchell deserves credit for
those defensive accomplishments.
在防守上,灰狼队的表现不错,目前整队场均失分数排行联盟第17名。
但比较一下有没有Rubio在场时,就像坐云霄飞车一样,上下变动很大,
有Rubio在时,防守净失分率94.4,反之,防守净失分率上涨到了106.4。
灰狼队的犯规不多,防守三分的表现也很好。Mitchell教导的防守值得嘉许。
What Sam Mitchell is getting wrong
Sam Mitchell做错了什麽?
Now let’s get to the problems of Mitchell. While I think it’s important to
mention the credit Mitchell deserves (I’ve had people call him the worst
coach in Wolves history which is just insulting to the legacies of Kurt
Rambis and Randy Wittman), it is also important to recognize the things he
does that holds everything back.
好了,我们现在来看看Mitchell犯了什麽错。
即便我认为有些Mitchell的表现值得称赞(当有人说Mitchell是灰狼队史最烂的教练时,
我认为那对Kurt Rambis还有Randy Wittman是非常失礼的),
也是该看看他到底搞砸了什麽。
1. The offense is archaic. The sets are so simplistic that you really do see
the individual talent of these young guys having to overcome the easy
scouting to neutralize what the Wolves are running. I’ve had two different
scouts and an executive tell me that if the Wolves weren’t so good at
drawing fouls, they’d be down near Philadelphia as an offense. That’s not
exactly a glowing endorsement of what they run.
进攻非常的老旧。
战术非常的简单,让对手可以轻易识破,使得这些年轻人常常需要靠打天分球去拿分。
我听到有两位球探和一位球队主管跟我说,
如果灰狼队没那麽会做犯规的话,他们的进攻是跟七六人一样糟糕的。
那代表他们的进攻战术并不怎麽可靠。
There is a real math problem with the way the Wolves play. Much like last
season, when the opponent hits a 3-pointer against the Wolves, it means the
Wolves likely have to score on two possessions to overcome it. Mitchell has
alluded to the idea that a lot of teams don’t run plays designed to get
3-point looks. It’s 2015 and it’s embarrassing if you still have this
mindset. As I pointed out in this breakdown of Andrew Wiggins as a go-to
scorer on CBSSports.com (SELF-WHORING ALERT), that’s simply not true.
这是很实际的数学问题,
灰狼队就像上季一样,当对手投进了一个三分球,你需要花两波进攻来追回。
Mitchell曾经提及过很多队伍并没有三分战术。
天啊,这是2015年了,竟然还有人会有这种心态。
如同我在this breakdown of Andrew Wiggins as a go-to scorer on CBSSports.com中
提到的,这并不正确。
来看一下溜马队的三分战术:
https://cdn.streamable.com/video/mp4/lnqm.mp4
These types of plays simply aren’t being thought up for the Wolves and it
puts them behind the 8-ball. They take the most midrange shots in the NBA,
which isn’t necessarily a bad thing (San Antonio is right there with them)
except they’re not particularly good at them. They’re 16th in the NBA in
midrange field goal percentage, so what is the benefit of taking so many of
them?
灰狼队并没有学习类似溜马队布置的这种三分战术,这让他们处於险境中。
他们在联盟中投了最多的中距离,虽然这并不是坏事(马刺队也投了不少),
但问题在於灰狼队根本不擅长投中距离。
他们的中距离命中率只排行联盟第16名,所以投这麽多有什麽帮助吗?
The Wolves have also taken 49 corner 3-point attempts and made 18 this
season. To put that in perspective, Trevor Ariza has taken 64 corner 3’s
this season. Al-Farouq Aminu is just behind the Wolves at 48 attempts. Klay
Thompson and Hollis Thompson have attempted 40 each. Ariza has eight more
makes from the corner 3 than the Wolves have. Four players have 17 makes from
the corners this season. How are the Wolves so bad at setting up what is
thought to be such an efficient and easy shot?
反过来看,灰狼队本季只投了49颗底角三分球,进了其中的18颗。
让我们来比较一下,Trevor Ariza本季投了64颗底角三分,Al-Farouq Aminu投了48颗。
Klay Thompson以及Hollis Thompson各投了40颗。
Ariza比灰狼整队多进了8颗底角三分,而本季另外有4个球员进了17颗底角三分球。
真是无法想像灰狼队在布置这已被证明过有效率且简单的底角三分战术有多麽差劲。
They simply don’t have the floor-spacing designed to maximize what they want
to do and that’s a horrendous logistical problem for the Wolves. The Wolves
are 12th in the NBA in field goal percentage, but that’s mostly because they
’re so good at the rim. Everywhere else, they’re mediocre and there doesn’
t appear to be a fix in sight. That’s why they’re 22nd in effective field
goal percentage.
灰狼队基本上没有想办法拉开空间以最大化他们的进攻,而这真是可怕的逻辑问题。
灰狼队的投篮命中率排行联盟第12名,那主要是因为他们在禁区得分把握度高。
在其他的位置投篮,他们的命中率是很普通的,而短期内看不到进步的可能性。
这也是为什麽他们在eFG%上(三分球的命中率有加成计算),只排行联盟第22名的原因。
2. As good as the Wolves’ defense has been (relatively speaking when
compared to our expectations), they’re pretty bad at defending the rim
(outside of Towns). Wolves are 15th in restricted area attempts allowed per
game and fifth worst in restricted area percentage allowed. They’re the
fourth worst team at defending ball handlers in the pick-and-roll, which is
problematic in a league that is pick-and-roll heavy. They’re bad at
defending hand-offs, they’re bad at defending guys coming off screens, and
they’re bad defending in transition.
虽然灰狼队的防守不错(至少超出我们原先的期望),
但是他们的禁区防守却是相当糟(除了Towns之外)。
灰狼队每场比赛在禁区被对手命中数排行联盟第15位(被命中数越多排行越低),
同时也是在禁区被对手命中率的第五名。
他们在防挡拆的持球员是联盟第四差的球队,
这在目前挡拆横行的联盟生态中是非常大的问题。
他们守掩护、守单档、守攻守转换都守不好。
The majority of this (outside of the transition) is due to the defensive
scheme of the Wolves going under the screen. This relates to not respecting
the 3-point shot, which is just an antiquated way of coaching. You don’t
have to be extreme in your love or acceptance of the 3-point line, but you
should respect its effectiveness and the Wolves don’t do that by constantly
going under the screen.
主要的问题在於(除了攻守转换)灰狼队对於单档的防守策略是选择往单档者的下方走,
这是老旧的教法,因为不重视三分出手,
你不需要热爱三分线,但你需要重视投三分的效率,
而灰狼队对於挡拆的防守都选择往单档者的下方走(绕後,防切入),
而非往单档者的上方走(绕前,防三分)。
I’d love to ask Sam about the strategy behind this, but I doubt he’d
respect me or anybody asking enough to give a real answer about it.
我很想问Sam关於这个选择的策略,但我怀疑他会愿意回答我。
3. Where are the in-game adjustments? The Wolves have been good at getting
leads in the first quarter. They’re also the sixth worst team in second
quarters (-4.7 per 100) and the sixth worst team in third quarters (-10.7 per
100). The Wolves do a great job of getting a lot of those points back in the
fourth quarter (sixth best at +7.8 per 100), but the holes they put
themselves as the opponents adjust in the middle of the game put them in bad
positions late in the game.
临场调度在哪里?
灰狼队在第一节常常能够保持领先,
但他们同时也是第二节表现第六烂的球队(每得100分会被对手多得4.7分),
也是第三节表现第六烂的球队(每得100分会被对手多得10.7分)。
第四节虽然能够追回一点分数(每得100分,比对手多拿7.8分,联盟排名第六名),
但由於在第二、第三节大量的被对手拉开分数,导致他们第四节很难追回来。
This also ties into the rotations and lineups Mitchell has fumbled often. I
have no problem with the games in which Towns is playing poorly and gets
limited time (or even no time) in the fourth quarter because of it. That can
be a teachable moment for Towns. I do have an issue with Towns playing well
and getting his fourth quarter minutes yanked. Even if you’re developing
Gorgui Dieng in the process (which may be more important than Towns), you can
actually play the both of them pretty evenly, if not at the same time.
这也跟Mitchell愚蠢的轮值、轮替有关,
我对於如果Towns表现不好时,在第四节只给他一点时间或根本不让他上没有意见,
但是当他打得不错时,你不让他上是有什麽误会?
即便你想要培养Gorgui Dieng(可能你认为比培养Towns重要),
你也能够让他们两人同时上场,要不然就是均衡的分配时间。
There’s a lot of good going on with this team and Mitchell deserves credit
for it. But he’s also limiting what they’re capable of in this development
season and seems to be unwilling to explain answers to the questions we have
about it. This was a tough situation to take over and he’s doing a pretty
solid job considering. But it can be better, it should get better, and I’m
not sure it actually will.
Mitchell带这支球队有很多好的地方值得嘉许,
但Mitchell同时也限缩了这支球队今年的发展,
而他连对我们记者解释这些疑惑都在不爽。
今年他接手球队的这个处境当然是很艰难的我了解,他也进行了不错的工作,
但这可以更好的,这本该可以更好的,而我现在很怀疑接下来是否真的能够更好了。
You saw Saturday night the difference between a coach like Terry Stotts and
what Sam Mitchell does for this team.
周六对拓荒者的比赛你可以看得很清楚Terry Stotts跟Sam Mitchell的执教功力差异。
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1F:推 illidan23: 好文大推 12/07 22:38
2F:推 balabalaba: 说到心坎里 去年琼斯杯看了几场美国队现场 对米切的印 12/07 22:57
3F:→ balabalaba: 象就是一直F来F去 之前在暴龙也被球员讨厌 个性太有 12/07 22:58
4F:→ balabalaba: 问题 12/07 22:58
5F:推 Ayowaya: 看完心情更闷 这季难道就这样了吗= = 12/07 23:24
6F:推 rex0423: 现在还有那个教练可以接?McHale? 12/08 00:33
7F:→ rex0423: McHale调教长人好像不错 12/08 00:34
8F:推 ken3204k: 常看到他在场边生闷气 让对方爽爽打 不知道在铳杀虫 12/08 01:25
9F:推 HCLG: 公牛锡箔度? 12/08 01:31
10F:推 jellyfishtea: McHale当初就是被灰狼炒掉,应该不太可能回来 12/08 02:21
11F:→ jellyfishtea: 锡箔度的球员使用方式,阿尼应该会先要求离去... 12/08 02:21
12F:推 psychoF: KG在比赛中灌蓝...今天却没有LIVE文QQ 12/08 11:12
13F:推 garnett8916: 好想看KG爆扣喔! 不过小狼们最後关头又软手了 12/08 11:36
14F:推 cidcheng: 影片板有了 12/08 11:47
15F:推 kaede0711: 进攻真的太死板了,有Rubio这种控卫防守也不差却没有试 12/08 11:58
16F:→ kaede0711: 着把pace加快,或是设计一些mo set来活络进攻 12/08 11:58
17F:推 Laural19: 推!可以请问一下为什麽会说对Lavine有强烈反应吗? 12/08 13:48
18F:推 Ayowaya: 就是很多人会骂lavine败球吧 12/08 13:51
19F:推 balabalaba: Lavine的出手选择比较有问题 12/08 15:23
20F:推 MKMGY: 推 这文蛮中肯的 12/08 17:04
21F:推 MKMGY: LaVine当初的模板是像JR Smith Gerald Green 或是穷人版的 12/08 17:10
22F:→ MKMGY: 西河 12/08 17:10
23F:→ MKMGY: 所以他的出手选择本来就不会太好 12/08 17:10
24F:→ MKMGY: 况且这季有时候他的出手反而还蛮有帮助的 12/08 17:10
25F:→ MKMGY: 再给他一些耐心吧 12/08 17:10
26F:推 illidan23: Curry和Kobe出手选择也不好 差别只在命中率 12/08 20:23
我发现我在Terry Stotts後方的夸号内写成爵士教练... 赶紧更正为拓荒者教练。
※ 编辑: ymhon (1.169.60.86), 12/08/2015 23:28:52
27F:→ ymhon: LaVine通常是开始准了之後才会多投啦 切入finish要再多练~ 12/08 23:32
28F:→ ymhon: 以命中率来看,LV其实不论两分还是三分都比Wiggins要高。 12/08 23:35
29F:推 gigiii1134: 借题发挥,虽然Adelman有些老古板&操先发,不过他的系 12/09 11:37
30F:→ gigiii1134: 统养成真的是大师级的,现在看看能把当年的菜炒成那样 12/09 11:38
31F:→ gigiii1134: 已经很厉害了,当年的球员现在几乎是全部都很挣扎。 12/09 11:39
32F:→ illidan23: 想想勇士在Mark Jackson时期建立起良好的防守 进攻完全 12/09 19:52
33F:→ illidan23: 靠球星自己打 到了Steve Kerr才建立起高水准进攻 12/09 19:53
34F:→ illidan23: 现在就练防守 进攻等下一个教练吧 12/09 19:54