作者yyjack (小虎)
看板Timberwolves
标题Re: [灌水] 小道消息 about Love's trade
时间Sun Jul 27 05:53:52 2014
还是没有新消息 只好继续灌水
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昨天晚上最大的新闻是Stephen A. Smith爆料
Love or his agent跟其他球队说别浪费心力
就算他被迫多在灰狼多待一年
一年後他还是会选择跟骑士签约
这个时机点出这种新闻实在很诡异
骑士代言人Amico马上附和
Sam Amico @SamAmicoFSO
Multiple sources under impression TWolves star Kevin Love has requested
trade to Cavs
Steohen A.的斗嘴好夥伴Skip也说
Skip Bayless @RealSkipBayless
Sounds like TWolves will be forced to trade Love to Cavs for less. He insists
won't sign with any other team, so can't pay too much to rent.
所以 这个消息是从ESPN跟Amico流出
Amico就算了 虽然少了其他大咖Woj等人背书
Steohen A.还算全国有头有脸的人物 我不会完全否定此可能性
但.....对Love是好事吗? 如果因此影响到骑士报价
Flip可以直接拒绝送出 多留爱神一年 隔年直接空出16M薪资空间
爱多等一年到他梦想的winning team 钱还少拿 真的是就甘心阿~
至於灰狼这边的回应
Wolfson
Gotten a crap-ton of Love only re-signing w/ Cavs tweets. Where's that coming
from? Heard weeks ago he was open to staying w/ GSW, & others.
好像几周前才听说爱也愿意跟勇士续约耶
在之前的名单好像包含Boston 更不用说还有家乡LA跟大市场的NY
Darren Wolfson (Wolves writer) said earlier this week that Love's agent was
calling teams to try to get them to make offers for Love. I think it is
important to Love and his agent that he gets traded so that he can sign a
larger contract.
这段说法合理多了 打电话给有兴趣的球队 拜托赶快出手让我离开北大荒吧~~
最後附上灰狼迷的神回应
Look at the tweet again. He says multiple sources "under impression".
Translation: I'm talking out of my ass.
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第二则消息是Love宣布退出美国队for下个月世锦赛
Jon Krawczynski @APkrawczynski
Kevin Love is pulling out of Team USA because of uncertainty surrounding his
status with Wolves.
交易不定心情也不定 怕受伤影响行情乾脆不打了 这新闻其实不大重要
看看灰狼迷怎麽说
That's good. We don't have to worry about him getting injured now unless he
starts doing some knuckle push ups.
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老桑昨天接受访问的ㄧ些重点
1. There is no deal in place.
没成交~~没成交~~没成交~~
2. He talks to teams everyday.
每天都有在谈 (team"s" 复数)
3. He has had no conversations about trading Kevin Martin or Gorgui Dieng
没有谈到KM跟Dieng
4. He thinks Dieng can play next to Pekovic, though spacing is problematic
认为Peko跟Dieng可以一起在场上
综合其他消息 说明KM没有被当作烂约要清
但只要Lavine打出来 随时可能走人
KM合约的C/P值是很够的 要交易并不难 也不需要像JJB一样需要贴东西
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Terry Pluto的新文章 满值得阅读的
几个重点
1. Minnesota and Cleveland haven’t had serious discussions about a Love
trade for a week, writes Pluto. We heard recently that the trade market
for Love was quiet in general, although speculation has continued to
proliferate.
灰狼跟骑士双方已经冷战一周 没有亲热了...>"<
2. Pluto also hears that the expectation for any would-be Love trade to
Cleveland would be that the forward would still decline his player option
next season, giving him the ability to re-sign to a longer, more lucrative
deal.
Love到哪都可以拒绝执行明年选择权 为了更大的合约
ps: 所以 Love会愿意明年裸签骑士拿少少吗?
3. Minnesota is considering the unlikely possibility of keeping Love through
the season and then working out a sign-and-trade with another team next
summer, per The Plain Dealer scribe.
多留在灰狼一年 等来年先签後换? 机会不高但不是不可能
ps: 重点是要先签後换不裸签 钱才拿得多阿
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灰狼迷很认真的列出Love裸签放弃鸟权跟保留的薪资差异
A max deal signed next season will probably start around $18 million with
%4.5 raises available for 4 years. A deal signed in 2016 should start around
$22.5 million, perhaps $23m.
Losing his bird rights would cost him serious cash on the backend;
Bird deal or the non bird deal.
2015 --> 16.750m or 18.000m
2016 --> 23.000m or 18.810m
2017 --> 24.725m or 19.656m
2018 --> 26.578m or 20.541m
2019 --> 28.573m or new deal at 30 years old?
2020 --> 30.716m or ???
$150.342 guaranteed million staying in Minnesota and signing a new deal,
or extending and signing with the new team he's traded to... $77 million
going into free agency on his own.
$73 million guaranteed cash potentially lost by becoming a non bird FA.
That ain't gonna happen.
所以.....Love真的愿意放弃如此大把钞票嘛??
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Sam Amico (NBA columnist for FOXSports.com and FOXSportsOhio.com)
前几天在讨论区跟球迷聊天的公开纪录 满有娱乐性的XD
Comment From Cliff
What are the Cavs view on Dion right now? Do they think they can convince
him to be a 6th man, do they think they can start him, or will they just
trade him?
Sam Amico:
They absolutely love him and feel he can be their Dwyane Wade. Or Wade-like
anyway. He is the starting shooting guard. Wiggins will have to beat him out.
球迷: DW会被交易? 第六人? 还是先发?
Amico: 球团非常爱他 他会是骑士的Dwyane Wade
Wiggins都必须跟他竞争先发SG的位置
Comment From Matt E
Do you think there's a chance they can get Love and not have to give up
Wiggins?
Sam Amico:
I do believe that. I really do. But I'm believing it a lot less and less
these days.
球迷: 你认为骑士可以不用丢AW就拿到Love吗?
Amico: 我坚信!!! 但最近我越来越没有信心了.....ORZ
yyjack: Amico在其他地方说到Cavs has ever never never never offered AW for Love
让我们跟他一起唱 I Believe~~oh~~~
Sam Amico:
Flip Saunders is a great guy. And a guy who really knows how to work the
media. A lot of these reports you're hearing are textbook Flip. Feel free
to figure out which are which for yourselves.
老桑是个狠脚色 很会利用媒体
Comment From joe
If Flip could have wiggins bennett and a 1st or have klay thompson david lee
and barnes which do you believe he would choose?
Sam Amico:
A source told me Flip Saunders "has had a (I'm trying to keep it clean here)
for Wiggins" since before the draft. He'll take a trade with Wiggins over all
others.
球迷: AW+AB+1st pick vs. Klay + Lee + Barnes 你觉得灰狼会选哪一包?
Amico: 神秘内线消息跟我说 老桑一直都深爱着AW 我相信他会选择A胜过一切
yyjack: 这让我想到Okland当地媒体Tim Kawakami也说过老桑爱Klay胜过AW
要AW只是逼勇士丢出Klay的手段 你们这样搞得我好乱阿~~~(抱头
Comment From Brad
What are the odds that the origination of some of the Love trade rumors are
being floated out there by Minnesota.
Sam Amico:
100 percent
球迷: 你觉得这麽多关於Love的交易传言有多少是从Minnesota流出的
Amico: 不用怀疑 百分之百!!!!!
yyjack: ㄎㄎ
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最後 又来到美国乡民呛声时间
仔细看看会发现 两边的在吵得几乎一样 很有同步感XDD
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先来一篇宣称DW是Wade 2.0骑士迷的最新预言
I have seen scenarios where Love gets picked up in free agency by a team
like Philly who has large cap space( 35mill) and they get his bird right,
then cavs trade Haywoods expering (10.5 million and other small assets and
a couple firsts to philly) Which philly would instantly do as there gm is
trying to round up as many picks and assets as he can. But I do not think
Love makes it to Free agency anyways (unless he is traded to a team he doesn't
want/ the team he goes too stinks it up)
骑士明年无法裸签Love怎麽办....?? 别担心
可以请76人签约 然後再拿Haywoods的10.5M到期大约交易过来
这....实在是太幽默了 边看边笑有益身心健康
差不多跟大V射程可比Okur AB减肥後灵活到可以守SG一样幽默
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You should read the numerous reports that cavs are going to give up first
round picks bennett and wiggins at least for Love. This is probably true
because the sources are many and legit unlike cavs beat writers who are given
false info like wiggins is not going to be traded, dieng is in play and other
bs. Not their fault but cavs are in no position to expose their intentions
while wolves want to publicize the deal to put pressure on lebron to take over
the front office like he will shortly
Not to mention we got own posters here who have heard things and the trade
will be made with wiggins bennett first round picks. So yeah idk if thats
true or not but thats there.
跟我们的论调一样 这麽多有公信力的消息来源都说话了
为什麽要选择性去相信Amico呢?
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Go away cavs scrub, it doesnt matter whay the cavs fo thinks. Cclevelands
balls are in the hands of lebron. Good job getting onto your knees for a 2
year contract with a 1 year opt out. Not talking to you, your points are just
wishful thinking. Sorry all the sources point to wiggins being traded. Just
lie in the hopes of random fallacious sources and your cavs writers.
观点同上
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I know I don't have the energy to listen to any more Cleveland fans make the
same bullcrap arguments any more today.
You guys need to find a new place to hang out. Your schtick is way past old,
irritating and quickly becoming infuriating.
没啥观点 纯骂人XD
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I can't wait for, I don't know, Clippers fans to show up and tell us that we
need to trade Love for JJ Redick & Byron Mullens, otherwise he'll take the
MLE to play for them next season
酸
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Never going back there (Cavs fans forums)again until Wiggins becomes a wolf
so I can read their meltdowns.
"meltdowns" = 崩溃 台湾美国灰狼迷一同坐看期待某迷们崩溃 齁齁齁
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1F:推 duke7814:76人被米国乡民当作87人了 呵呵呵呵 07/27 09:22
2F:推 sato111:等崩溃那一天到来 07/27 11:34
3F:推 koyoer:借转 谢谢^^ 07/27 12:29
4F:→ yyjack:这种纯灌水的也要转喔??!! 欢迎欢迎~:) 07/27 12:34
5F:推 bo497751553:嘴巴上说不值得交易不可能发生,其实还是蛮在意嘛~ 07/27 12:38
6F:→ bo497751553:这是傲娇吗XDD 07/27 12:38
7F:推 koyoer:哈哈反正也无聊 07/27 12:48
8F:推 sakai:就等开大开小吧 07/27 13:03
9F:→ sakai:meltdown countdown: 28 days 07/27 13:03
10F:推 wuchu:话说,老桑没有提到Rubio的续约进展吗? 07/27 14:33
11F:推 bo497751553:哈wuchu大我正想问,刚看zgoda说应该是四年五千万,y 07/27 15:15
12F:→ bo497751553:y打大你那边有消息吗? 07/27 15:15
13F:推 wuchu:Zgoda是说50M or more...有可能数字还会往上涨XD看来老桑压 07/27 23:14
14F:→ wuchu:价很不顺利,难怪他对公牛的Jimmy避如蛇蠍 07/27 23:15
15F:推 jinshenn:Zgoda的消息准吗? 老桑现在可能还没空和Rubio谈约 XD 07/27 23:20
16F:推 wuchu:7/1後就跟Fegan谈过了,但目前好像就是我要max!XD 07/27 23:23
17F:→ wuchu:Zgoda虽然消息不算灵通,不过他跟Rubio方面有交情,可能有那 07/27 23:24
18F:→ wuchu:麽一点可信度...吧? 07/27 23:24
19F:推 jinshenn:那跟没谈似乎没什麽差别 XD 07/27 23:34
20F:推 jinshenn:会等Rubio打完世锦赛再续谈吗? 07/27 23:36
21F:推 wuchu:就是两边心理价位有差距吧,不过Rubio的经纪人真的会想拖到 07/27 23:36
22F:→ wuchu:世锦赛结束我是满怀疑的,除非他铁了心想让Rubio拿max 07/27 23:37
23F:→ wuchu:只是Rubio现在都在西班牙国家队集训了... 07/27 23:38
24F:推 jinshenn:Fegan很难搞 大家都知道 07/27 23:42
25F:推 jinshenn:Rubio去集训没差 重点还是经纪人愿不愿意谈 07/27 23:44
26F:推 wuchu:Rubio个性这麽好,为什麽配一个无敌难搞的经纪人... 07/27 23:46
27F:→ wuchu:从外部消息来看只知道有接触谈判过,但到什麽程度完全不知道 07/27 23:47
28F:推 jinshenn:嗯 应该要有突破性进展才会报导出来 07/27 23:52
29F:推 jinshenn:反正没差 要关心的东西太多 等最後消息吧 一切顺利就好 07/27 23:53
30F:推 wuchu:没错,希望一切顺利 07/27 23:55
31F:→ yyjack:Rubio的谈约进度好久没消息了 但现在并非优先事项 等呗~ 07/29 00:39
32F:推 wuchu:看了wolfson的回答,似乎是没有进行正式谈判,大概要等到 07/29 00:41
33F:→ wuchu:Love的交易告一段落了 07/29 00:42