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标题[外电] Wolves news
时间Thu Dec 15 20:06:35 2011
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LUKE RIDNOUR, PG
预测: 17.1 pts, 3.3 reb, 7.3 ast per 40 min; 15.66 PER | Player card
‧ P&R的专家有很好的中距离 ,会在行进间抛射.
‧ 低得分的快枪侠.处理球能力不错但球场视野尚可.
‧ 敏锐的防守者,但在背位单打时容易被解决,糟糕的进攻终结者
Coming off a Fluke Rule season in which he shot staggeringly well on
midrange jumpers, it wasn't a shock that Ridnour's output declined. However,
the decline was limited by another excellent shooting season from Ridnour,
who now has to be considered among the game's top midrange marksmen.
Last season Ridnour shot 47.8 percent on 2-pointers beyond 10 feet,
which again put him in the league's top 10 (see Beno Udrih comment).
While this was a far cry from the absurd 56.6 percent he made
a season earlier, it still helped him to strong field goal and
True Shooting percentages. However, he needs to shoot that well from
outside because Ridnour is one of the game's most wretched finishers
at the rim -- his 51.3 percent mark would have been the league's worst
last season if he'd had enough attempts, and he's annually among the
leading contenders in that competition.
Ridnour has become effective at short floaters, however,
and he also surprised with last season's 44 percent mark on 3s,
although it's not a shot he takes frequently and I doubt that
accuracy rate will hold. As a distributor he remains solid,
once again averaging a shade over seven assists per 40 minutes,
although his turnover ratio spiked --perhaps a consequence of
being the team's only decent ball handler.
As for his defense, it depends on whom he's guarding.
The smaller and quicker the opponent, the more effective Ridnour is,
and he gets his hands on a fair number of balls. But he's
both short and small-framed, and bigger guards destroy him on post-ups.
Overall, he allowed a 17.4 PER to opposing point guards,
and statistically the Wolves weren't any worse with the likes of
Sebastian Telfair or Jonny Flynn on the court than Ridnour.
WESLEY JOHNSON, SG
预测: 13.7 pts, 4.7 reb, 3.0 ast per 40 min; 10.67 PER
‧ 宽厚的手臂打着2号位,完全依靠定点跳投
‧ 需要改善处理球与进攻直觉,很少被犯规
‧ 不错的防守者拥有灵活度,会盖火锅在篮板方面也能做出帮助
Given that Johnson is already 24 and comes off a fairly unimpressive
rookie season, it's fair to wonder if he was drafted
several spots too high. He'll be a rotation player because
he can defend and make open jump shots, but to be a long-term starter
Johnson needs to dramatically improve his offensive efficiency.
Johnson also was playing out of position as a shooting guard last season
and may fare better as a small forward; unfortunately,
the Wolves would either have to shake up their rotation or trade him
to enable such a switch.
As for his play, Johnson disappointed with how reliant he was on his
jump shot.For the season he took 533 shots from beyond 15 feet and
only 86 at the rim; he's not a good enough shooter to get away with that.
Johnson struggled on long 2s, making 37.7 percent, and on 3s he was an
unspectacular 35.6 percent.Thanks to all the jumpers he had the
fourth-lowest free throw rate among shooting guards,
and the seventh-worst TS%.
One adjustment that may improve his scoring is having him post up more;
he was effective doing that in college and has a size advantage on most 2s.
Besides, he sure as hell can't be worse than Darko. However,
Johnson's offensive instincts are also a problem; he needs to find himself
easy baskets by running the floor and cutting off the ball.
Defensively he showed more potential. Johnson ranked third
among shooting guards in blocks per minute, and his other
metrics placed him at or near the middle of the pack at his position.
For a rookie making a position switch,that's an accomplishment.
MICHAEL BEASLEY, SF
预测: 24.5 pts, 7.9 reb, 2.7 ast per 40 min; 16.59 PER
‧荒唐的左翼球员,带着敏捷的第一步向左进攻,他很热爱中距离
‧ 攻守意识缺乏.很依赖跳投.几乎每次都向左
‧ 次等的防守者 , 是个摇摆人打球总是很随意
Better as a 4.
First, the good news: Beasley created a ton of shots,
averaging 23.7 points per 40 minutes and ranking fourth among
small forwards in usage rate, and it's hard to knock him too much for a
mediocre TS% given the other options that were on the floor with him.
A bad shot from Beasley was still superior to a good shot from many
of the other players with whom he shared the floor. He took a ton
of long 2s (590 of them, to be exact) and needs to get to the basket more,
but many of those shots came in bad shot-clock situations.
The problem is that he contributed so little else.
Beasley isn't a good passer or ball handler; in particular,
his right hand touches the ball about as often as I touch a comb.
As a result only two small forwards had a worse pure point rating,
and with so much offense running through him that's a major problem.
Additionally, Beasley's drives often left him thwarted shy of the rim;
he had more attempts from 3 to 9 feet than at the rim, and
his success rate was dramatically worse (39.6 percent versus 65.6 percent).
And then there's the defense and the attitude.
Sometimes simultaneously -- often he'd stop to argue a call and
give the opponent an easy 5-on-4. Synergy's stats rated him the
fifth-worst small forward defensively, while 82games.com says
he was lit for a 19.3 PER by opposing small forwards. Power forwards,
at 17.7, didn't do quite as well, supporting the data from his Miami years
that Beasley is more effective at the 4. Alas, that's unlikely
to happen given Minnesota's current roster makeup, and Beasley's other
antics have made him essentially untradeable.
DERRICK WILLIAMS, PF
‧ 多功能锋线球员里外都能得分,以4号位身材较矮
‧ 有攻击性且聪敏.非常有能量的跳跃专家但灵活性稍差
‧ 平均能力的篮板者.不是很伟大的防守者,不太会卖火锅
Williams tried selling himself as a small forward leading into the draft,
but he measured at 6-9 with long arms and weighs 248 pounds at the age of 20;
the only bigger power forwards in the league right now are LeBron James and, er,
Michael Beasley.If Williams isn't a full-time power forward already,
he will be within two years.
That presents a conundrum for the Wolves since they
already have an All-Star at power forward; if Williams proves ready,
the seemingly obvious solution is to play Kevin Love at center and
try to win 120-110. Williams should be able to score right away
in the pick-and-pop game; he shot 56.8 percent on college 3s last season (!),
albeit on a small sample of attempts, and the threat of his shot sets up
drives much in the way it does for the Hornets' David West.
KEVIN LOVE, C
预测: 23.3 pts, 17.1 reb, 2.9 ast per 40 min; 24.80 PER
‧ 攻守两方的篮板大师,拥有绝对领域
‧ 不错的定点跳投者与,伟大的快攻传球专家,受限的低位能力
‧ 贫乏的防守者.有身材但移动性或对抗後的投篮都很差
The most amazing part about Love's season is that, at the outset,
his coach wasn't totally sure if he was any good; Love averaged 28.4 minutes
in the opening nine games until his 31-point, 31-rebound game against
New York on Nov. 12 finally hammered home the obvious fact that he was the
team's best player. It was the NBA's first 30-30 game in a quarter century,
and a springboard for Love to win the rebounding title.
In addition to leading power forwards in both rebound rate and
defensive rebound rate (he was third overall in both categories),
having the top PER at his position, and rather shockingly
scoring 22.4 points per 40 minutes with hardly a single play called for him,
Love showcased a variety of other superlatives. He's a foul magnet
who was fourth at his position in free throw attempts per field goal attempt,
and made opponents pay by hitting 85.0 percent at the stripe --
including one streak of 46 straight. He shot 41.7 percent on 3s,
which isn't what you expect from a league-leading rebounder,
helping offset a disappointing season on long 2s
(he made only 34.0 percent of his 2s beyond 10 feet).
The one sticking point is that he's still a poor defensive player.
Love's Synergy numbers were pretty solid, but you'd have a
hard time explaining why. He was 62nd out of 70 power forwards
in both blocks and steals per minute, while his owning the lowest
foul rate at his position is more a condemnation of his effort than
a positive sign. Love is slow in transition D, often doesn't rotate
out on switches, and struggles to guard long post players.
I would argue Love was better defensively at center; though a deficient
shot-blocker, as a 5 he can use his physicality, spend more time in the
paint and focus on rebounding. If the Wolves decide to end the
Darko Milicic silliness and move Love to the middle it would also open another
spot for all their assorted 6-9 combo forwards.
DARKO MILICIC, C
预测: 13.7 pts, 8.3 reb, 2.6 ast per 40 min; 12.41 PER
‧ 左手低位球员,喜欢用左手勾射或是在底线转身单打
‧ 缺乏进攻直觉,容易失误且缺乏篮框附近得分的能力
‧ 伟大的火锅专家但防守注意力时好时坏,以高度来说篮板太稀少
One of the most bizarre events in the weird world of the Wolves was
watching them repeatedly dump the ball in to Milicic in the post as
though he were any good at offense. He's not. Milicic has poor
offensive instincts, turns it over too much, and doesn't draw fouls.
In spite of all that, he had a higher usage rate than Luke Ridnour.
Most shots per 40 minutes from 3 to 9 feet, 2010-11
Player Team FGA/40
Darko Milicic Min 7.17
Andrew Bogut Mil 6.12
Brook Lopez NJ 6.09
Roy Hibbert Ind 5.73
Shawn Marion Dal 5.24
Source: Hoopdata.com. Min 100 FGA
Milicic's most notable deficiency is that he doesn't turn his post-ups
into shots at the rim -- the best-case scenario is a hook shot that
he has trouble making consistently. Milicic, per minute, took more shots
from 3 to 9 feet than any player in basketball, trying more than one
every six minutes (see chart). Well over half his shots came in this area.
And yet, he wasn't any good at them, covering just 39.1 percent.
As a result of all these failed post-ups, Milicic finished 12th among centers
in usage rate and 59th in TS%. It wasn't just the shooting, though --
he also kept trying line-drive, no-look passes off the dribble that
nearly decapitated several baseline photographers, finishing with the
sixth-worst pure point rating among centers. He's also unusually bad
at tip-ins, botching several easy ones last season.
While there are few rational explanations for Minnesota's offensive reliance
on Milicic, he is genuinely useful at the defensive end.
He was third among centers in blocks per minute and graded strongly in
Synergy's stats, with his length at the rim making up for a lot of
shortcomings around him. He's a disappointing rebounder and doesn't
always play hard, but if the Wolves just focus on his defensive attributes
and stop acting like he's Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,Darko can be a helpful player.
RICKY RUBIO, PG
‧ 有速度,有流畅节奏的控球後卫, 能在推进球同时找到空档球员
‧ 不好的外线射手与遭糕的进攻终结者,很会罚球
‧ 杰出的防守潜力.拥有不可忽视的抄截强势能力
Rubio is one of the most unique players to come into the league in a
long time and I'm excited to see him, but I'm not sure his rather
unusual combination of pluses and minuses will add up to much of a player.
There's no way to sugarcoat this: Rubio's translated European stats are
just awful, and have been for the past few years. I have a system that's
been pretty reliable in terms of predicting first-year NBA performance for
imports from the Euroleague, and what they project for Rubio offensively
is ghastly: a 27.3 percent shooting mark and a 9.93 PER. It's not just
his play in that league either; Rubio's play for Spain in international
competition has been similarly discouraging.
Much has been made of Rubio's poor jump shot, but a far bigger problem is
that he's a lousy finisher. Many point guards have survived the former,
but they all were very effective in the paint; Rubio, on the other hand,
routinely blows layups. Oddly, he's a good foul shooter, which may
offer some hope for his eventually redeeming his field goal percentage --
especially since he turned 21 in late October.
Rubio has so many fans because he has skills in other categories
that few others can match. He projects to have a high assist rate and
be among the best rebounding guards in basketball,
and defensively he should be a plus right away with his ball-hawking talent.
If I were to compare him to any recent player it might be Darrell Walker,
the former Knick and Bullet (... and Piston, Bull and Nugget).
Walker was a 6-4 ball hawk like Rubio, and like Rubio
he couldn't shoot at all -- he finished his career with
an impossibly bad mark of 6-for-102 on 3-pointers.
Because of that he never achieved stardom, but he was so good
in other areas he had a solid career anyway. Rubio may be on the same path.
NIKOLA PEKOVIC, C
预测: 15.7 pts, 8.3 reb, 1.4 ast per 40 min; 11.21 PER
‧ 大只佬,因他的身材让他变成很衰的犯规机器
‧ 拥有在篮框周围的攻击力.机动性受身材限.对球的处理令人难以忍受
‧ 贫瘠的防守篮板者,还算不错的火锅火锅专家,乐意在防守上进行对抗
Pekovic fouled me while I was writing this. Twice. The burly Monteneg-goon
celebrated his arrival by committing 8.16 personal fouls per 40 minutes,
becoming only the 15th rookie since the NBA-ABA merger to
average more than a foul every five minutes. Surprisingly, a few of them
(Matt Geiger, Kevin Duckworth, Roy Hibbert, Malik Rose)
turned into decent players.
Most fouls per 40 minutes, 2010-11
Player Team PF/40
Nikola Pekovic Min 8.16
Johan Petro NJ 7.97
Kevin Seraphin Was 7.94
Aaron Gray NO 7.23
Solomon Jones Ind 7.12
Min. 500 minutes
I'm not sure Pekovic will follow them. His translated European stats w
ere really strong based on his offensive stats, but last season
fell way short of that level. While Pekovic did produce
some offensive positives -- he averaged 16.2 points per 40 minutes,
he can finish around the basket, he draws fouls and
he's a good foul shooter -- he can't just physically crush people
the way he did overseas. Pekovic tends to pick up traveling
violations trying to head fake around the basket,
while his post-up "method" consists of swinging his arms into an opponent
and backing up into him until the ref calls an offensive foul.
Speaking of which, Pekovic is a horrid ball handler; the offensive
fouls are only part of the problem, as he had the league's
worst pure point rating in 2010-11 (see Dwight Howard comment).
If he doesn't bring some refinement to his bull-in-a-china-shop approach,
he'll be a career backup.
MARTELL WEBSTER, SF
预测: 16.0 pts, 5.4 reb, 1.9 ast per 40 min; 12.51 PER
‧ 宽厚的手臂带着长远的投篮距离,非常滑顺但
但结果很普通
‧ 处理球的能力很差,强壮但缺乏低位能力,不值得注意第灵活度
‧ 乐意防守但只有普通的横移能力.病房常客
Webster attacked offensively more than any time in his career,
and while that led to a spike in turnovers given his dodgy handle,
it also resulted in his best offensive season overall.
Using his strength along with a healthy dose of shot fakes,
Webster ranked 13th among small forwards in free throw attempts
per field goal attempt -- easily a career best.
He also shot 41.7 percent on 3s, an encouraging result for a player
with a gorgeous stroke but a career mark of only 37.7 percent.
As a result, he set career highs in TS% and points per minute.
Webster isn't a great athlete but is a willing defender;
in both Portland and Minnesota, this has resulted in his being used
as a stopper in an act of desperation, and the results have been fairly ugly.
This is particularly true at shooting guard, where Webster
played often last season and was savaged for a 21.7 opponent PER.
Synergy's stats also ranked him poorly, and he didn't contribute
much in terms of blocks, steals or rebounds either.
Obviously, that's partly due to playing the 2 so much and
having to guard much quicker players. Like a lot of Wolves,
Webster is forced to play suboptimal positions
by the team's excess of players in the 6-7 to 6-9 range. H
e's really a full-time 3 who can occasionally play as a smallball 4,
but on this roster he's likely to play a lot of shooting guard once again.
He's a useful player, especially if he's making over 40 percent on 3s,
but he could be of greater benefit on another roster.
WAYNE ELLINGTON, G
预测: 14.5 pts, 3.7 reb, 2.6 ast per 40 min; 9.49 PER
‧ 非应有高度的SG,拥有长远火力,尚可的灵活度
‧ 从中距离开始向外的投篮都很棒,但禁区的攻击令人乏味
‧ 在其他方面的涉及都低於一般. 身材有限制到他的防守
Here's a stat you don't see often: Ellington shot better from
outside 10 feet than inside. On jump shots, including 3-pointers,
Ellington made 39.7 percent; however, he made only 39.6 percent
from 9 feet and closer.
And with that, you immediately understand where Ellington's career sits:
He needs to rip the nets to shreds from outside, because the rest of
his game just isn't good enough. While he has decent athleticism,
he's undersized for a 2 and doesn't handle the ball
nearly well enough to play the point. He's a lousy finisher,
as evidenced above, plus he struggles on defense and
can't create his own shot. So his outside shot is his meal ticket,
and in his first two seasons it wasn't quite accurate
enough to get the job done.
That said, he may eventually hit enough shots to get some
traction in his career. Ellington shot more long 2s than 3s last season,
and if he switches the mix to focus on the 3-pointer his TS%
should rise accordingly. And while he's below average in nearly
all other respects, he's not terrible; compared with a lot of
other 3-point specialists he's downright athletic.
So if he racks up a TS% in the mid-to-high 50s, he'll be playable.
ANTHONY TOLLIVER, PF
预测: 13.3 pts, 8.6 reb, 2.5 ast per 40 min; 13.68 PER
‧ 聪敏,定点投篮的大个,防守上带着攻击性
‧ 精壮带着一般的灵活性. 次等的篮板手.有限的低位能力
‧ 除非四下无人才会投篮,但他是个好的传球者.他很少放错.
A smart, high-percentage player who doesn't force the action, hustles
on defense and never makes mistakes? Wait, what's this guy doing
on the Timberwolves?
Tolliver has carved out a niche for himself in that role despite playing
for two organizations -- Golden State and now Minnesota --
that were antithetical to intelligent basketball.
Last season he averaged only 12.7 points and 8.7 boards per 40 minutes,
yet was a useful player because of his high-efficiency approach.
Tolliver was the rare player who both takes lots of 3s and
draws lots of fouls; he was 11th among power forwards
in 3-point frequency and 10th in free throw rate. He hit 40.9 percent
from beyond the arc and finished fourth among power forwards
in secondary percentage.
As an added plus, Tolliver has become a fairly adept high-post passer.
He was eighth among power forwards in assist ratio and ninth
in pure point rating.
Defensively, Tolliver is undersized but offsets that with his mobility
as a pick-and-roll defender and his willingness to take charges.
Although his direct opponent stats weren't good,
the Wolves gave up 4.57 points per 100 possessions
fewer with him on the court -- Tolliver's value isn't in one-on-one defense,
in other words, but team D. Much of which is wasted with this outfit,
but Minnesota's logjam at the 4 may result in his being
liberated to a franchise that has more use for his crafty play.
ANTHONY RANDOLPH, PF
预测: 22.5 pts, 11.4 reb, 2.4 ast per 40 min; 17.75 PER
‧ 长臂, 极端瘦长的左手长人,以他的高度来说运球还不错
‧ 优等的篮板手与火锅制造者. 有时候防守的很无力
‧ 外线遭糕而且攻守意识不是很好,很棒的得分终结者
The defining Randolph sequence came in the final game of
the season against Houston. In a close game, late in the fourth quarter,
the Rockets were able to get consecutive dunks
because Randolph walked back on defense. Not jogged. Walked.
Randolph's inconsistent effort threatens to submarine some pretty
serious potential. He ranked in the top third of power forwards in blocks,
steals and rebounds and offensively he averaged better
than a point every two minutes. Unfortunately he's still a wildly
inefficient offensive player. Although few big men dribble
as well as he does in the open court, that dissipates in traffic.
He doesn't have great body control on the drive and constantly
loses the rock; only five power forwards had a worse turnover ratio.
And he didn't compensate for those errors with a lot of assists;
mostly he drove for his own shot.
Randolph can get to the rim, but too often he takes the jump shots
that opposing defenses happily conceded to him.
He tried a shot beyond 10 feet once every five minutes last season,
and converted only 33.9 percent of them, barely half
his percentage at the rim. Based on all this, one good way to
use him may be to take the ball (and decisions) out of his hands and
have him operate as the dive man in the pick-and-roll,
where he can finish strong and draw fouls.
Defensively, Randolph is potentially awesome but for the moment average --
he has the length and skill of a Marcus Camby, but his moments of
shot-blocking splendor are offset by an abundant lack of strength and
a frequent absence of focus or effort. He's only 22 and
has a world of potential, but there's a reason he's already on his third team.
BRAD MILLER, C
预测: 14.3 pts, 8.5 reb, 5.3 ast per 40 min; 15.02 PER
‧ 能投射的高位中锋,会传球与处理球,有制造犯规的能力.
‧ 笨重缓慢. 终结能力与打开放式进攻都是问题.
‧ 坚强的肉体, 由於缺乏灵活度是个糟糕的防守者
Miller had offseason microfracture surgery and is likely to miss the
entire season; it's possible he won't play again. If so, he went out with a
classic Miller campaign -- he was first among centers in pure point
rating and secondary percentage but second-to-last in offensive rebound rate.
Amazingly, his defensive stats were decent -- likely because the
Rockets were careful not to put him in situations where he could
be taken advantage of.
MALCOLM LEE, G
‧ 长臂, 灵活强的防守. 有潜力的防守者.
‧ 以这个身材控球非常好.攻守转换能力很强. 遭糕的外线.
‧ 不强壮. 大学成绩很糟糕.
UCLA products under Ben Howland have historically outperformed their
college stats; Lee better hope that trend continues, because his college
production was mighty underwhelming. The bad outside shooting numbers
are the first thing that jumps out, but the more troubling part for me
is that a player drafted for his athleticism had such paltry
output in rebounds, blocks and steals.
Lee's potential also depends on his position.
He handles the ball well enough to potentially play point guard,
where his jumper and thin frame would be less of a liability and
his length more of an asset. As a wing, however,
he seems like a marginal player at best.
The Minnesota Timberwolves are welcoming J.J. Barea into the fold, hoping
he can bring veteran poise and leadership to one of the
youngest teams in the league.
灰狼队欢迎着J.J.的到来,希望他能以多年的经验成稳且领导着这支年轻球队
Just finish the practice.Happy to have a champion in our team.
Welcome JJ. I can't wait to start playing some games.
R.R.也很高兴看到一个冠军出现,他急着想赶快去比赛
Devean George被waive掉了
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1F:→ sato111:根本没新闻......借中文版难产中的火林格专栏来用用 12/15 20:08
2F:→ sato111:里面还有Telfair与Hayward,不过已经不在球队了 12/15 20:18
3F:推 aibakoji:没新闻是因为灰狼没有交易传闻了,Crawford也不追了 12/15 21:27
4F:→ aibakoji:今天最大条的新闻大概是Adelman终於说重话了 12/15 21:27
5F:→ aibakoji:她说我过去带过的nba球队里没有像灰狼这麽喜爱失误的 12/15 21:29
6F:→ aibakoji:说经过一星期训练营整支球队没多大进歩,传球持球 12/15 21:30
7F:→ aibakoji:和上季一样漫不经心 12/15 21:31
8F:→ aibakoji:另外就是大概会用三PG开季,因为球队能处理球的人太少 12/15 21:32
9F:→ aibakoji:所以交易Ridnour机率很低了,而且应该会让双PG成为 12/15 21:33
10F:→ aibakoji:战术之一 12/15 21:34
11F:推 duke7814:Beasley被评得一无是处 真可怜...... 12/15 21:57
12F:→ sato111:很合理,要进行练习赛,如果又有任何交易,那麽球队势必 12/15 22:02
13F:→ sato111:又要再次战术配合,还不如试用看看现有阵容到季中能打出 12/15 22:04
14F:→ sato111:什麽成绩在看看後续处理,不过看到黄蜂那支签真希望 12/15 22:07
15F:→ sato111:球队能力图振作,成绩不要太失落 12/15 22:07
16F:→ sato111:今年能拿到25胜,我想至少是看到希望了 12/15 22:14
17F:→ sato111:至少灰狼签了一个J.J.这样在小牛队历练过的家伙,绝对 12/15 22:17
18F:→ sato111:可以在球队迷茫的时刻带来帮助的 12/15 22:18
19F:推 RainCityBoy:必思立的进攻真的除了跳投就没了 很乏善可陈 老实讲 12/15 22:23
20F:→ sato111:Beasley要改进的就是持球时间还有投篮选择 12/15 22:26
21F:推 ecbytesan:都预测的太高了吧= = 逼私利可以拿24.5分? 12/15 22:29
22F:推 JUSTINJUSTIN:是PER 40 min 12/15 22:30
23F:→ sato111:艾德蒙已经被彻底激怒了XD他想申请联盟给每个失误一点分数 12/15 22:58
24F:→ sato111:不过J.J.与Beasy都被恶意肘击过,他们会双重肘击Bynum吗? 12/15 23:05
25F:→ sato111:还是会对Bynum使用组合技之类的... 12/15 23:07
26F:推 wisdom8002:爽啦,real COACH,点出大问题就是好事 12/16 00:39
27F:→ wisdom8002:看来要短时间进步蛮难的,不过至少期望下半季能改善 12/16 00:40
28F:推 lunkk:小米立看能否像砍比一样 越沉越香~~~ 12/16 10:29