Two Man Game: Andre Roberson is shooting guard Option A Andre Roberson是得分後卫首选 by Daily Thunder on March 9, 2015 at 3:02 pm| By Josh Kopelman Special to Daily Thunder 原文连结：http://tinyurl.com/l8lwrho Since the dawn of time, or more accurately the start of the season Thunder fans have been clamoring for a change in the starting lineup at the 2-guard. 打从时间开始流动，或更精确点，本季初，雷霆迷们总是嚷着要变动先发得分後卫人选。 This is because Andre Roberson is the starting shooting guard and the shooting part is where he struggles when he plays basketball. 这是因为Andre Roberson虽然担纲得分後卫，投篮却是他最大的障碍。 However, the way Roberson plays offense (along with his ability to defend at a high level) is part of the reason why he’s in the starting lineup. 然而，Roberson的进攻方式(跟他高档的防守能力)是他为何站上先发的原因的一部份。 Wait, what? 等等，你说什麽? Even before a trade deadline deal brought four new players to OKC, there were calls for Dion Waiters to start in place of Andre Roberson. The trade gave the Thunder two more possible options at shooting guard in Kyle Singler and D.J. Augustin. 在带来4位新球员的交易大限前，就有声音指出建议Dion Waiters取代Andre Roberson成 为先发。交易後，OKC在得分後卫上多了Kyle Singler跟D.J. Augustin两个可行选择。 With Kevin Durant out, Singler is the de facto starting small forward and when Durant returns he’ll move to the bench. 在Kevin Durant缺赛下，Singler是实质的先发小前锋，而Durant一回归後，他又会被调 往板凳。 However, Singler, along with Anthony Morrow, D.J. Augustin and Dion Waiters can all play and start at shooting guard if they need to. Are any of these guys better options to start than Andre Roberson? 然而，在要求下，Singler、Anthony Morrow、D.J. Augustin、Dion Waiters都能担任得 分後卫且在这位置上先发。那，这些人中有谁是比Andre Roberson更好的选择？ Starting Augustin would mean there is no true point guard to backup Russell Westbrook so he’s not an option to start. 让Augustin先发表示没有一个替补Russell Westbrook的纯控球後卫，所以他不会是个选 项。 Anthony Morrow has not played a single minute when the Durant-Westbrook-Ibaka-Adams foursome has been on the floor so it’s hard to judge exactly how he’d do starting with those guys. Anthony Morrow不曾在Durant-Westbrook-Ibaka-Adams四人组上场时上过场，所以非常难 判断他如果跟这些人先发会带来怎样的效果。 If Kanter continues as starting center over Adams, then there is even less a need for offense and Morrow isn’t exactly known as a defensive ace. So the seven-year vet is coming off the bench. 如果Kanter持续取代Adams扛先发中锋，那麽先发得分需求将会更少，而且Morrow并非一 个以防守见长的球员。因此这位7年级老将将会从板凳出发。 Ditto with Singler struggling on defense, but still he makes an intriguing candidate at shooting guard. Singler在防守端也同样非常挣扎，但他依然是个得分後卫上的不错的人选。 Take a look at the third-year player from Duke’s shot chart. He can definitely knock down the three: 看看这位来自Duke的3年级生的投射成绩单。他绝对可以砍进三分球。 图片连结：http://tinyurl.com/lfcycfa But, he’s shooting 45.6 percent around the rim. Roberson is 61.2 percent! Singler could slide over and start at the 2 when Durant returns because of his shooting edge. But that option isn’t as appealing when you look at rebounding. 但是，他(Singler)在篮框附近命中率为45.6%，Roberson是61.2%!!! 在Durant回归後， Singler可以因其射程转职先发2号位，但如果你看了篮板数，让Singler转得分後卫这件 事可能不是很吸引人。 Per 100 possessions Roberson dominates the glass compared to the 3-point specialist averaging 10.8 boards to Singler’s 6.7. 在100次球权中，Roberson平均10.8篮板的表现力压擅长三分投射的Singler的6.7个篮板 。 See? He is a good rebounder. That led to two easy points for Russell Westbrook all because Roberson crashed the boards with the assist of a lucky bounce after the first miss. 看到没? Roberson是一个很好的篮板手。Roberson在不进後抓下篮板，传给Russell Westbrook拿下简单的两分。 So it’s back to the bench for Singler once the Slim Reaper returns. 所以Durant一回来，Singler就要回到板凳去了。 And that brings us to the island of misfit Waiters. 最後我们来看看Dion Waiters。 Dion Waiters is usually the first guy off the bench so it’s common to hear, “Dion should start over Andre.” The best part is that people saying this are being serious. Dion通常是板凳出发的第一人，所以我们常常听到「Dion比Andre更有资格先发。」最棒 的是，大家说这句话时都非常认真。 Without looking into it, the theory makes sense. Waiters would help boost scoring and his defense isn’t that much worse than Roberson’s. 不仔细看的话，这道理倒是说得通。Waiters可以帮助得分，而他的防守与Roberson相比 也不至於说太糟。 But, we’re going to look at how these two players play. 但是我们要看看这两位球员的打法。 Waiters is far better at shooting than Andre Roberson. At least that’s the common thought. Waiters在投篮方面比Andre Roberson好太多了。至少大家都普遍这麽认为。 The former Cav is shooting just 37.8/27.8/64.2 with 311 points on 333 field goal attempts since the early January trade brought him to OKC. 这位前骑士球员的投篮三围只有37.8%-27.8%-64.2%，自从一月初来到雷霆後在333次出手 只得到311分。 Yes, Mr. Shot Selection has 22 more field goals attempted than points scored. 是的，他的投篮选择好到出手次数比得分多了22次。 And his defensive Real Plus-Minus this season is minus-0.92, which isn’t slightly worse than Roberson’s 3.77, it’s light years behind. 而且他的防守正负值是 -0.92，这非但不只比Roberson的3.77差一点点，应该可以说是差 了好几光年吧。 That 3.77 DRPM Roberson has posted this season is second among shooting guards and 12th overall in the NBA this season. Roberson的DRPM=3.77是本季得分後卫中第二名，全联盟第12名的表现。 And Yes, Roberson got burned on defense late in the victory over Toronto, Mr. I didn’t pay attention to Roberson shutting down the DeMar DeRozan in the third quarter. 对，Roberson在对多伦多暴龙那场胜利的防守端最後是被打爆，可是他在第三节把DeMar DeRozan守死了。 Ok, but Waiters is better offensively, right? 好吧，但Waiters在进攻端更具威胁性，对吧？ Andre Roberson this season is 46.8/25/45.7 and has 194 points on 170 shots. That’s bad shooting from 3-point land and the free throw line, no doubt. Andre Roberson，本季是46.8%-25.0%-45.7%，170次出手得到194分。废话，这三分命中 率跟罚球命中率烂得可以。 But, Roberson is shooting 46.8 percent from the field??? 等等，Roberson有46.8%的投篮命中率? That’s the sixth best field goal percentage on the team! And the defensive specialist leads all Thunder guards in field goal percentage? How? 这是全队第6高的命中率！而且这位防守专家居然在雷霆的後卫群中领跑命中率？怎麽回 事？ Oh. No one is guarding him. That makes shooting slightly easier. 喔，没有人在防守他。这让他投篮变得简单一些些。 And that’s the thing. Roberson is very good at not being guarded since “ make sure Andre doesn’t shoot” isn’t in any team’s game plan. In both of those plays, the guy who can’t shoot makes opponents pay for ignoring him. 然後这就来了。Roberson非常擅长不被防守，因为「别让Andre投篮」从来不是哪一队的 战术方针。在这两个play中，这位不善投篮的家伙让对手为无视他赔上了代价。 And that’s probably why he’s hitting 61.2 percent of his shots near the basket. For reference, that’s better than Russell Westbrook, James Harden and Kyrie Irving. Of course Roberson isn’t a better shooter than those three, his Shooting percentage is only higher because defenses guard those other guys when they go to the basket. 这大概也是为何他在篮框附近命中率达61.2%。跟Russell Westbrook、James Harden、 Kyrie Irving相比，当然好的多。当然Roberson跟这三人相比绝不是更好的得分手，他命 中率高是因为防守者总是在那三人进攻时紧盯不放。 What else does Roberson bring offensively? Roberson在进攻端还带来什麽？ 图片连结：http://tinyurl.com/lo5uwt9 Look at the shot chart. Almost no midrange jumpers, which are the least efficient shots in the basketball. 看看投篮分布。几乎中距离跳投，篮球中最低效率的出手方式。 Roberson only attempts 3.1 field goals per game. When you ‘re bad at shooting, not firing up a shot unless you’re open is as good as it gets for your team. Roberson一场比赛平均出手3.1次。当你很不会投篮时，不要一直出手，除非你 He doesn’t take inefficient jumpers that efficient shooters such as Kevin Durant, Serge Ibaka and Russell Westbrook could be taking. 他不做高效如Kevin Durant、Serge Ibaka、Russell Westbrook会出手的低效投篮。 Waiters isn’t afraid to shoot with a defender in his face. Maybe he should be. Waiters面对防守者时根本不恐惧。或许他应该要。 Notice who else is on the floor for the Thunder when Waiters decides to step back and shoot. 看看Waiters决定来个後撤步跳投时，谁在场上。 Thirty percent of the shots that Dion takes are two pointers from further than 16 feet out. He makes 38.4 percent of those. That’s about 7.7 points for every 10 shot attempts. Dion Waiter的出手有30%是在16尺外的两分投射。他在这范围的命中率是38.4%，大约是 每10次出手得7.7分。 Roberson has only taken ONE shot from the same distance. ONE! The other 172 shots he has taken this season have been either within ten feet of the basket or behind the three-point line. Roberson在同样距离只投了一球。对，一球。其他72次出手不是在离篮框10尺之内，就是 三分线外。 And that brings us to the answer of why Waiters doesn’t start over Roberson. 这告诉我们，为何Dion Waiters不能取代Roberson成为先发。 The healthy Thunder lineup of Adams-KD-Westbrook-Ibaka-Roberson is outscoring opponents by 15 points per 100 possessions. 健康的雷霆先发阵容 Adams-KD-Westbrook-Ibaka-Roberson平均每100次球权，比对手多 得15分。 Sub in Waiters for Roberson and that lineup does a cliff dive to 9.9 points behind opponents per 100 possessions. 如果Roberson用Waiters替代的话，平均每100次球权的得分差会骤减到落後9.9分。 That’s going from a 15-point lead to trailing by nearly 10 points. 这是从领先15分到落後近10分。 Kanter is even more of an offensive threat than Adams, so with him in the starting lineup it’s even more reason to start the more efficient and passive shooter in Roberson. Kanter在进攻端比Adams更具威胁性，所以把Kanter摆在先发阵容中时，让高效且被动的 後卫Roberson先发看起来更合理。 Waiters is fine for a bench player, but he doesn’t fit with the starting lineup on offense since he takes so many inefficient shots. Waiters可以是板凳球员，但他不适合在先发进攻组，因为他有太多低效率的出手。 Roberson plays better with the rest of Oklahoma City’s healthy starters at the 2-guard and he’s a better perimeter defender than anyone else OKC has, which is why the Thunder continue to start Roberson despite some fans groaning at the idea. Roberson在其他先发都健康时打得更好，而且他是目前雷霆最好的外围防守者，所以雷霆 不管部分球迷怎麽抱怨都应该要让Roberson继续先发。 ※ 引述《billyhwd (billy)》之铭言： : 文章网址： : http://ppt.cc/D6Sq : 内容提到为何螺丝是先发SG的最佳人选，以及从各方面来比较队内其他SG。 : 若有人认养的话会自D，否则我再找时间翻噜~ 今天考完期中了 来帮忙翻一下~~~ Thunder up!!!!!!!!!!! -- 「天下才有一石，曹子建独占八斗，我得一斗，天下共分一斗。」 「天下有十步，哈登已习得二步，余皆落入詹皇之手。」 --

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