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※ [本文转录自 NBA 看板 #1GW8KVOd ] 作者: kart (=\) 看板: NBA 标题: [外絮] KD: The Penny Hardaway We Deserved 时间: Fri Oct 19 06:39:25 2012 原文出处: http://ppt.cc/3bhl 这篇文章或许很多人不会认同,毕竟两者的打法着实有差, 不过作者(某报专栏作者的blog)以两者的大学到联盟的前四年来作比较 并且用影片做佐证来说明两者在技巧上的相同之处也别有一番见解 身为老人,看这些影片会让人怀念起为什麽Penny是众多 中生代球星在MJ之外的另一个常见的偶像不是浪得虚名 可考的包括未进NBA前的Laoda,T-Mac, Lebron, 鹰王等 我认为若没看过Penny打球只看记录会觉得好像还好, 但是身为那个时代的人若有在看老乔,一定也会注意到东区的大欧和一分钱 大欧篮下新生代怪兽,一分钱才华洋溢的传球,行云流水般的进攻 两者相辅相成常有让人拍案叫绝的佳作,在95年板倒公牛到96年更是达到高峰 废话不多说,文章如下 Kevin Durant: The Penny Hardaway We Deserved KD:一个让我们弥补Penny Hardaway遗憾的球员 Hey all. I recently wrote this article on Kevin Durant and Penny Hardaway at my own blog, The Peach Basket. Seeing as this is an OKC message board, I figured who better to read and pick apart my first writing venture at the site. While I am a new member here, I was a former SB Nation writer at the (now defunct) Head Kick Legend. Anyway, give it a read and let me know what you think. 作者的心路历程。 Lebron James and Michael Jordan. Magic Johnson and Larry Bird. Kobe Bryant and Smush Parker. As fans of such an individualized sport like basketball, we have grown accustomed to hearing numerous conversations begin with, "So, who’s better…?" While often exercises in futility, it is nevertheless a fun conversation to have in the off-season. LBJ或是MJ。魔术或是大鸟。Laoda或是旋转门。 在篮球这个崇尚个人主义的运动里,大家茶余饭後最爱问的问题就是 「谁比较强啊?」 而这些比较往往都沦为无谓的口水战。 不过作为休赛季闲嗑牙的讨论倒是颇有乐趣。 With all that being said, let us examine two players that often escape comparison, despite the striking similarities in their games. Anferene Hardaway entered the league in 1993 as college’s top point guard prospect. Beyond his tremendous skill at the point, Penny was an anomaly in that he was 6’7", a mere inch shorter than fellow draftee (and small forward) Jamal Mashburn. He skipped his final year of eligibility at Memphis State, after being named a finalist for both the Player of the Year and the John R. Wooden Award. Fast forward to 2007, and Kevin Durant’s story reads much the same. Durant, too, headed to the league early, after winning virtually every individual accolade as a Sophomore at the University of Texas. Also worth noting is that KD was a 6’10" (although some posit that he may be nearer 7’) small forward. 废话那麽多,我们来比较两个很少被比较的球员,即使他们其实 有很大的共通性。哈得威在1993年以该年最强後场入选NBA。 他在一号位非常有天份,但是他的身高和体型优势更是让人难以忽视 (他只比当年同梯也很强的小前锋Jamal Mashburn矮一寸)。 哈得威在大三囊括了所有NCAA的荣誉,并且提前参加选秀。 让我们快转到2007年,基本上KD就像在重复以上的故事一样, 他提前加入联盟因为他已经洗卷了所有NCAA的个人荣誉。 而跟哈得威相同的是他也是同位置中的高个儿(6'10"打小前锋) Beyond the fact that they could see over most of their defenders, Penny Hardaway and Kevin Durant share even more in common when you begin to break down their statistics and style of play. Both were instant impact rookies, with Penny averaging 16 points and 6 assists in 82 starts, and KD getting 20 points, 4 boards, and 2 assists per game in 80 starts. Also, each player was named to the NBA All-Rookie First Team and won the NBA Rookie Challenge MVP at All-Star Weekend. And they were only getting started. 除了显而易见的事实:他们能在他们的位置上有极好的视野, 哈得威和KD的数据面和打法也是很类似的。 第一,两者在菜鸟年就立刻成为球队的即战力。 哈得威菜鸟年82场全先发,平均16分6助攻。 KD菜鸟年80场先发,平均20分四板。 第二,两者皆拿下菜鸟第一队并且得到菜鸟明星赛的MVP。 第三,这都还只是开头。。。 KD and Penny each averaged a PER in the mid-teens during their rookie season, hovering around the league’s average. Over the course of the next two campaigns, each player saw this number rise exponentially, with Penny hitting a 24.6 and Durant maxing out at a 26.2. This lead to each man earning a place in the league’s All-Star game. KD和Penny的PER在菜鸟年都还是仅优於平均值。 但是在之後两季皆得到爆炸性的成长。 Penny在第三季就达到24.6的PER值,KD更是已经达到26.2。 这种表现让他们早早就成为全明星赛的常客。 While similar, the statistics are obviously going to differ slightly due to the differences in positions and the style that the league employed at the time. Plus, numbers are boring; so let ’s go to the videotape: 当然虽然相似,但是数据上还是可以看到两者有很大的不同, 不过我认为是因为他们打的位置不同,还有当今的球风的影响。 而且毕竟看数据很无聊,所以我们来看看影片: Let’s see what happens when each player is given the ball on the outside… 当两者在外围持球时: (Clip starts at 1:00) http://youtu.be/qp8aZRhyxOM
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The defender is forced to respect their ability to drive, and thus falls susceptible to the (identical) crossover to fadeaway move. Of course, here, Durant has the advantage of being guarded by Marvin Williams. 防守者被迫聂於他们切入的能力,因此容易被他们的胯下运球所骗。 而结果都是一样的:被制造出大空挡跳投得分。 当然在这里KD吃了矮他一号的Marvin Williams和Penny吃Pippen 难度是有点差别啦。 So, they both can shoot. Let’s now look at how they handle posting up. 所以他们都有不错的外线,那我们来看看他们的低位能力 http://youtu.be/3xulAGFIFV8
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Aware of each player’s jumper, the defenders force their man to the baseline. As you see, this does not end well. In Penny’s case, the height difference between him and John Stockton is about six inches. Even Lebron, who is listed a mere inch shorter, has few answers for Durant once he elevates towards the rim. 注意到两者的跳投能力,防守者只好压迫他们在底线附近。不过 你可以清楚看到这招并没用。Penny很轻易地就过了矮他六寸的老史。 甚至Lebron这个只比KD矮一寸(账面上)的防守者也是守不住在篮筐附近的KD。 Fine, they can score. How about we double, triple, or quadruple team them? Nu-uh. 好吧,所以他们都能得分。那当他们被双夹,三夹甚至四夹实咧?没用! http://youtu.be/JkTxYxWErvs
(哈得威最有名的助攻之一,这个动作真的太顺) As soon as Penny starts his drive, you can instantly see four Knicks turn their full attention to him in hopes of stopping one of his signature up-and-under finishes. So what does Penny do? Spins, and throws a no-look, over the shoulder pass for an uncontested dunk. 我们可以看到当Penny开始往里运球时,对方马上四面包抄防止他的 招牌切入,晃动後投灌篮。所以遇到这种程度的包夹时Penny怎麽做? 他做一个360度的转身後像是背後长眼睛一样地往肩膀後一丢给无人 防守的队友来个轻松灌篮! http://youtu.be/tt9OsdAKwM8
Similarly, the second Westbrook tosses Durant the ball, Kobe Bryant and Andrew Bynum both take their gaze off their men and turn to him. This causes Bynum to cheat up and completely ignore the pick Kendrick Perkins is setting on Kobe. With Kobe neutralized and Bynum out of position (shocker), Durant is free to throw up a lob to Westbrook at the rim. 而类似的,当西和把球传给KD後,Kobe和拜男马上去包夹KD。 当两者都失去位置後,KD轻易地把球丢给无人防守的西河灌篮。 While neither man is infallible, defenders are essentially damned if they do, damned if they don’t. 当然两者都还有失误的时候,不过不管如何,防守他们的人永远是 一个头两个大。 The final aspect of comparison I want to touch on, is the foil that each man presents within the NBA. Penny Hardaway entered the league on the heels of Michael Jordan’s (first) three-peat. With the end of the "Bad Boys era" Pistons and the Pacers and Knicks being the Pacers and Knicks, there was no real challenger to Jordan’s Bulls. This all changed with the Penny-lead Magic in 1995, who knocked out Chicago in an incredible 6-game series. Unfortunately, this semblance of parity in an MJ-dominated league only lasted for one year, as shortly thereafter, Hardaway’s career was ravaged by knee injuries. 最後一点两人值得比较之处在於他们在NBA中的地位。 哈得威进入联盟时正好是MJ第一次三连霸时,後底特律「坏孩子」时代 而东区传统强权溜马和尼克还是溜马和尼克,不足以撼动公牛。 但是这些想法都被Penny领军的新生代强权魔术在95年颠覆了。 当然,乔丹也只失败了那一年,之後发生啥事我们都知道了, 而最不幸的是Penny的生涯之後也被膝伤所毁。 On the other hand, Kevin Durant entered the league to a different kind of dominance. While Lebron James wasn’t racking up the titles, it was clear by 2007 that his individual abilities were second to none. Sure, some Laker fans were adamant that Kobe was still top-dog, but the rest of the league’s rational fan base could see his dominance was fading. Within two years of his arrival, Durant quickly established himself as a contender to Lebron’s crown, by demonstrating the above skills while also winning the scoring title in just his sophomore season (and then winning it again, and again). While in this past season’s Finals, KD failed to emulate Penny’s 1995 triumph, it is hard to believe that we won’t see the Heat and Thunder match-up again in the near future. Only time can tell. 另一方面,kD进入联盟时处在一个不一样的统治级时代。 是的,Lebron并没有像MJ一样已经拿到多个冠军,但是在2007年季後赛以後 基本上除了湖迷以外已经没有人怀疑Lebron是联盟第一人。 但是一切都在KD进入联盟後发生变化,两年内KD已经成为足以挑战 Lebron的那个人。而他在他的第二年以及接下来的第三第四年都拿到得分王。 的确,与Penny在95年把老乔的公牛放倒不同,KD今年没有打败Lebron, 不过不可否认热火-雷霆的冠军戏码在不久後的将来应该会再度上演。 只有时间会证明一切。 As we all know, it is hard to continue the comparison between Penny and KD beyond their first four seasons. By his fifth year in 97-98, Penny’s career was knocked off track by debilitating knee problems, from which he never truly recovered. While still considered one of the all-time greats, we will never truly know what could have been. That’s where Durant comes in. Entering his sixth season, Durant seems to have only fulfilled a piece of his potential. Having come so close to a championship, only to have it snatched away in a close Game 6, will hopefully do wonders for his career. Also, where Penny lost Shaquille O’Neal and was eventually traded away to Pheonix, the Thunder seem committed to not only Kevin, but his core teammates as well. Now, of course, injury can strike at any moment, and KD will likely suffer something horrible in spite of me writing this article. But in the meantime, we can hope. 而在第四季过後我们都知道我们不可能继续比较两者了, 因为Penny在第五年受到的膝伤让他基本上没有办法再回去了。 Penny在很多人的眼里依然是个特别并且很有天份的伟大球员,不过 却留下了许多「如果」和遗憾,我们永远不知道他如果健康能达到如何的境地。 所以我认为KD的出现给了Penny球迷救赎。 尤其健康的KD在雷霆的地位似乎会比Penny当时来的有保障一点, 他不会遇到大欧离队的打击,雷霆也似乎不会把KD当交易筹码, 尤其雷霆不止对KD忠心,他们也尽力想留住整个核心阵容, 而不像魔术一样。当然,这些前提都在於KD不受太严重的伤。 让我们衷心期望(这不会发生)。 ================================= 内容见仁见智,毕竟只是记者个人的blog, 算是感想文,不过老人们回味一下Penny,年轻人则可以比较一下两者异同。 现阶段打球像Penny的人我个人认为其实是没有 ^^ --



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1F:推 ymsya :真的两个人类型完全不同= = 10/19 06:50
2F:推 will313 :技巧也差太多了吧 10/19 06:58
3F:→ will313 :KD手感比较好 Penny技巧好太多 10/19 06:59
4F:推 pttfft :借转 10/19 06:59



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