作者Elingen (回甘就像现泡)
看板Thunder
标题[外电] Thunder's leaky 'D' threatens chances
时间Fri Feb 10 14:22:31 2012
Thunder's leaky 'D' threatens chances at winning it all
雷霆的破洞防守
http://tinyurl.com/87tum75
When the Oklahoma City Thunder out-gunned the Golden State Warriors 119-116
on Tuesday, it was the fifth time this season that OKC had won a game in
which it allowed at least 100 points. That's a lot in a season during which
teams are averaging less than 95 points a game.
星期二雷霆击败勇士後,这已经是本季第五次雷霆在对手得分超过100分的情况下取得胜利
,对於一支平均失分少低於95分的球队而言实在来的太多了
The Thunder are slightly better than average defensively, ranking 15th by
allowing 99.9 points per 100 possessions entering Thursday's game in
Sacramento (10:30 p.m. ET, TNT). Offensively, they rank third, scoring 105.6.
They're a great team, with a four-game lead in the loss column on the rest of
the Western Conference, but they're unbalanced. And if they want to win a
championship, they'll probably need to improve defensively.
雷霆的防守只比平均好一些,在联盟排第15,对手在每100次进攻中可以拿到99.9分;进
攻上,雷霆则排在第3,平均每场可以拿到105.6分。这是一支很棒的球队,战绩西区第一
,并和第二名有着4场的胜差,但这是一支不均衡的球队。如果雷霆想赢得冠军,他们最
好改善防守。
When the Thunder won 55 games and made the conference finals last season, it
was mostly seen as a progression from the season before, when they won 50
games and lost in the first round. But though the rosters were virtually
identical (91 percent of last season's minutes were played by guys who were
on the roster the season before), those two teams were very different.
去年,雷霆以55-27的战绩一路闯进了西区冠军赛,比前年50-32止步於季後赛第一轮更好
。尽管这两年的阵容轮替几乎没变,打起来却像两支不同的球队。
The 2009-10 Thunder were a top-10 defensive team. The 2010-11 Thunder were a
top-five offensive team. Only four teams improved more offensively from
'09-10 to '10-11, and only three teams regressed more defensively.
2009-10年赛季,雷霆的防守排在联盟前10;2010-11年赛季,雷霆却是一支进攻排在前5
的球队。在过去的两个赛季以来,只有三支球队如此。
Getting it done
Thunder efficiency, last three seasons
Season Wins Losses Pace Rank OffRtg Rank DefRtg Rank NetRtg
2009-10 50 32 95.6 11 105.8 12 101.6 8 +4.1 9
2010-11 55 27 95.3 13 108.6 4 104.0 13 +4.5 9
2011-12 20 5 95.8 5 105.6 3 99.9 15 +5.7 6
Pace = Possessions per 48 minutes
OffRtg = Points scored per 100 possessions
DefRtg = Points allowed per 100 possessions
NetRtg = Point differential per 100 possessions
There were a few of things that contributed to the identity change. First,
Russell Westbrook and James Harden both became more potent scorers. Second,
the Thunder lost assistant coach Ron Adams, who kept their young players
focused on defense, to the Chicago Bulls. And of course, as they improved
offensively, there was less pressure to defend as well as they did in '09-10.
影响这项改变的有几点因素:
第一,Westbrook和胡子的得分能力进步了
第二,雷霆失去了Ron Adams这个优秀的防守教练
Last February, though, the Thunder made a defensive upgrade when they
acquired Kendrick Perkins from the Celtics. They allowed less than a point
per possession in Perkins' 428 minutes last season, and were the eighth-best
defensive team after the All-Star break.
去年二月,Perkins的加入升级了雷霆的防守,在Perkins所上场的428分钟里,对手的每
波进攻平均拿不到一分,这让雷霆在明星赛後的防守上升到联盟第8
So with a full season of Perkins and Serge Ibaka as their starting bigs, OKC
should have been an improved defensive team, back in the top 10. But they've
actually regressed defensively when you compare their numbers to the league
average (which has dropped considerably from last season).
在整季内线有Perkins和Ibaka两个大个子守护的情况下,雷霆的防守照理应该会重回联盟
前10,但我们看到的却不是这麽一回事,实际上,雷霆的防守变的得越来越糟
When Thabo Sefolosha was healthy, the Thunder starters were excellent
defensively but really struggled on the other end of the floor. With James
Harden at the two instead of Sefolosha, they're ridiculously good
offensively, but terrible defensively. And with Daequan Cook starting,
they've been pretty bad on both ends.
当Sefolosha健康时,雷霆的先发拥有非常出色的防守,却在进攻端很挣扎;而当Harden
取代沙发打二号时,情况则反过来。若Cook打先发,则两端都会变得非常糟糕
Lining up
How OKC's lineups have fared this season
Lineup GP MIN Pace OffRtg DefRtg NetRtg +/-
Russ, Thabo, KD, Ibaka, Perkins 18 284 97.2 94.4 85.5 +8.9 +41
Russ, Harden, KD, Ibaka, Perkins 23 187 91.1 111.4 114.4 -2.9 -6
Jackson, Cook, Harden, Collison, Nazr15 83 90.6 108.3 97.6 +10.6 +6
Maynor, Cook, Harden, Collison, Nazr 8 62 92.8 121.7 104.1 +17.6 +22
Russ, Cook, KD, Ibaka, Perkins 6 60 96.9 94.4 106.8 -12.4 -16
Of 182 players who have logged at least 500 minutes this season, Harden has
the highest offensive efficiency (his team's points per 100 possessions when
he's on the floor) at 112.8. But he also has the second-highest on-court
defensive efficiency among players on teams with winning records, at 104.6
and behind only Mo Williams.
在182位本季至少上场500分钟的球员里,Harden的进攻效率是最高的,当他在场上时雷霆
每100次的进攻可以拿到112.8分;但他同时也是防守效率第二差的球员,仅次於Mo,
Harden在场上而雷霆赢球的比赛,球队平均的失分高达104.6分
NBA.com/stats: Thunder efficiency with Harden on and off the floor.
(原文有附网址)
Harden's offense has more than made up for his defense, but it's an
interesting yin-and-yang situation the Thunder have with Harden and
Sefolosha, who have played only 72 minutes together this season.
尽管Harden的进攻弥补了防守上的缺失,但他与Sefolosh之间依然是一个有趣的阴与阳
状况。
Overall, the Thunder defend both 2-point and 3-point shots pretty well,
ranking fifth in opponent effective field-goal percentage. But they don't
rebound well, don't force many turnovers and foul too much. The turnovers are
the biggest difference between this Thunder defense and the one from two
seasons ago, when they forced 15.7 per 100 possessions, the sixth-highest
rate in the league.
总体看来,雷霆对於中距离和外线的防守做得还不错,但他们对篮板的掌握不够好,并且
没有积极制造对手的失误,而这一点正是本季雷霆防守和前两年最大的不同,以往的雷霆
能在对手100次的进攻中制造15.7次的失误,排在联盟第6
Thunder D
Thunder defense, last three seasons
Season OppEFG% Rank DREB% Rank OppTO% Rank OppFTA Rate Rank
2009-10 48.3% 5 73.6% 17 15.7 6 0.300 17
2010-11 49.3% 11 73.6% 17 14.5 19 0.307 19
2011-12 46.2% 5 72.8% 24 14.8 25 0.281 13
OppEFG% = Opponent effective field goal percentage = (FGM + (0.5*3PM)) / FGA
DREB% = Percentage of defensive rebounds obtained
OppTO% = Opponents turnovers per 100 possessions
OppFTA Rate = Opponent FTA/FGA
But the biggest defensive difference when Harden is on the floor this season
is free throws. Thunder opponents are attempting 33 free throws per 100
field-goal attempts with Harden on the floor, but just 20 with him on the
bench.
Harden在场上带给雷霆防守最大的不同在於对手的罚球数。当Harden在场上时对手每100
次的投篮将可以获得33次罚球机会,但Harden在场下时对手只有20次罚球机会
Serge Ibaka's minutes have been split evenly between time spent with Harden
on the floor and time spent with Harden on the bench. And they make it clear
that Harden's perimeter defense puts added pressure on the Thunder bigs
protecting the basket.
Ibaka的上场时间也因Harden而有所调整,被等分成两段,各因应Harden在场上与场下的
时间。很明显的,Harden在场上的防守为雷霆的内线带来了额外的压力
In 296 minutes with Harden on the floor, Ibaka is averaging 4.3 fouls per 36
minutes. In 380 minutes with Harden on the bench, Ibaka is averaging just 2.8
fouls per 36 minutes.
在和Harden一起上的296分钟里,Ibaka平均每36分钟会有4.3次犯规;而Harden在场下的
380分钟里,Ibaka平均仅有2.8次犯规
The Thunder obviously aren't getting rid of Harden. The question is whether
they can win a championship as an unbalanced offensive team.
雷霆显然无法没有Harden,而问题在於雷霆作为这样一支不均衡的进攻球队能够赢得冠
军吗
This is a unique season. Every team out there is just trying to survive the
condensed schedule. But in the last 20 seasons, only eight teams that didn't
rank in the top 10 defensively in the regular season have made The Finals.
And only two of those, the 2000-01 Lakers and the 1994-95 Rockets, have won a
championship.
这是一个特别的球季,所有球队都在为缩紧缩的赛程而努力着,但在过去的20个球季,只
有8支队伍做到季赛防守效率不在前10却闯进冠军赛,而其中只有两支球队如愿夺得冠军
:2000-01的湖人以及1994-95的火箭
The Thunder will either need to buck that trend or buckle down on defense.
雷霆要不跳脱这个趋势,要不加强防守
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