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标题[转录]Re: [新闻] Joe Satriani控告Coldplay抄袭
时间Wed Dec 10 01:00:08 2008
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作者: flymyfinger (飞我指) 看板: guitar
标题: Re: [新闻] Joe Satriani控告Coldplay抄袭
时间: Tue Dec 9 00:33:34 2008
※ 引述《lordlpg (M)》之铭言:
: 作者: lordlpg (M) 看板: Coldplay
: 标题: [新闻] Joe Satriani Accuses Coldplay Of Plagiarism
: 时间: Fri Dec 5 15:44:28 2008
: Guitarist accuses Coldplay of plagiarism
: Fri Dec 5, 2008 2:00am EST
Speaking exclusively to MusicRadar on 6 December, Joe Satriani recalls the
exact emotion he felt when he first heard Coldplay's Viva La Vida.
Joe Satriani在12月6日接受MusicRadar的专访且回想起当他第一次听到冷玩的
Viva La Vida心里最直接的感受
"The second I heard, I knew..."
当我听到这首歌,我知道...
"I felt like a dagger went right through my heart. It hurt so much," Satriani
says. "The second I heard it, I knew it was [my own] If I Could Fly."
"这感觉就像是拿一把匕首直刺入我的心脏,让我很心痛。"Satriani表示。"当我听到这
首歌时,我知道这是我的If I Could Fly。"
As it turned out, Satriani wasn't the only one who noticed the similarity
between If I Could Fly and Viva La Vida.
结果,并不是只有Satriani发现If I Could Fly 和 Viva La Vida 的相似。
"Almost immediately, from the minute their song came out, my e-mail box
flooded with people going, 'Have you heard this song by Coldplay? They ripped
you off man.' I mean, I couldn't tell you how many e-mails I received.
"当Viva La Vida一播送时,我的EMAILBOX马上就收到潮水般来地信件。'你有听过冷玩的
那首歌吗?他们的抄你的作品!! '而且这类信件我数都数不清。
"Everybody noticed the similarities between the songs. It's pretty obvious.
It's as simple as that - when you listen to a song and you say, 'Wow, that's
a real rip-off.'"
"每个人都能查觉出这两首歌的相似,这实在是太明显了!!当你听到这首歌接着你就会说
科科,这是抄袭吧!!─就是这麽简单。"
What makes the situation especially painful for Satriani is that If I Could
Fly isn't just any song. It's a composition he'd been laboring over for well
over 10 years before he recorded it.
更让Satriani感到相当心痛的是这首If I Could Fly对他意义重大,这首歌在录制完成
前花了他超过十年的心血。
"I started writing it on the Flying In A Blue Dream tour back in 1990. But
because of the way I write, sometimes songs take a while, as this one did. In
2003 I started demoing it in earnest. I played it on the acoustic guitar on a
demo so I could sing the melody, then I demoed it on electric to get the
sound. And the performance turned out to be so spontaneous, so right and so
emotional, that it wound up being a keeper."
当我在1990结束Flying In A Blue Dream 的巡回演出後便开始写这首歌,而且我写歌都
慢慢来,所以一直到2003我才开始认真地作这首歌"If I Could Fly"的DEMO。我先用木
吉他做背景在唱出它的旋律,接着再用电吉他弹奏出旋律。所以我的表演会这麽的自然、
正确和感人,这些努力可能就是关键。
Satriani feels "really hurt"
Satriani伤得不轻
Since If I Could Fly came out in 2004, Satriani has been gratified by the
reaction it's received from his fans, many of whom have called it one of his
most captivating songs.
自从 If I Could Fly 在2004发行以来,乐迷都称这首歌为他作品中最迷人的歌曲,而
Satriani也对此感到相当的满意。
"That was the intent all along," he says. "It was a love letter to my wife,
Rubina – a simple, direct expression of feeling.
"事情是这样子的。"他表示"这是给我老婆RUBINA的一封情书─感觉就是很简单和直接"
"That's what really hurts about this whole thing. That I spent so long
writing the song, thinking about it, loving it, nursing it, and then finally
recording it and standing on stages the world over playing it - and then
somebody comes along and plays the exact same song and calls it their own."
"这真的搞砸了所有事。我花了这麽久时间写这首歌、构思它、爱它、养育它然後录制它
,最後站在世界的舞台弹奏这首歌,可是现在却有人跳出来,演唱这首歌曲而且还宣称
这首歌是他们的作品!!"
Since it was announced on 4 December 2008 that Satriani is suing Coldplay for
alleged plagiarism, seeking a jury trial and "any and all profits" connected
to Viva La Vida, his life has been turned upside down.
自从2008年12月4号以来,Satriani一直对冷玩提出剽窃指控并寻求对簿公堂和
Viva La Vida的所有获利,这件事把Satriani的生活搞的一团糟。
"This has been the weirdest thing I've ever been involved in," he says. "The
media attention has been bizarre and surreal. I really can't explain how I've
felt over the past day or two."
"这可能是我卷入过的事中最诡异的一件。"Satriani表示"媒体把整件事炒得很夸张,
我真的很难解释我这一两天的感受"
"I did everything I could to avoid a court case"
"我尽可能地避开法院这条途径"
Satriani stresses that his motives are ruled by artistic purity and an
overriding sense of right and wrong.
Satriani强调他的动机是出於音乐人的良知及最主要为是非的观念。
"Everybody's assumes I'm trying to go after these guys in Coldplay, as if I'm
doing this with malice," he says "That's the furthest thing from my mind. I'm
just doing what I need to do as an artist, to protect what's mine, to protect
those feelings I put down in song.
" 所有人都在想说我可能是故意想给冷玩一些颜射瞧瞧" Satriani表示"我完全没这麽想
过,我只是做了一个音乐人应该做的事,保护属於我的东西还有那首歌我所倾入的情感"
"I did everything I could to avoid a court case with this situation. But
Coldplay didn't want to talk about it. They just wanted this whole thing to
go away. Maybe they figured this little guitar player guy will leave them
alone after a while, I don't know.
"在这种情况下我尽可能地避开法律途径,但冷玩不想跟我谈谈,他们可能是想让这件事
无疾而终,可能他们认为过了一段时间後这个只会弹吉他的小人物不会再来烦他们,我
也不是很清楚"
"But we're talking about a piece of art that I created, and that's something
I feel is important. I think everybody should feel that way."
"但是我认为我们讨论的是一件我创造出来的艺术作品,而且对我而言这很重要,我认为
每个人都应该会这样觉得。"
And now, Satriani's team will ask a jury to decide.
现在,Satriani的团队可能会把整件交由陪审团决定。
http://0rz.tw/e85cA
啊第一次翻 错误可能会有点多
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1F:→ pc78325:the second I heard 不是这样翻的.. 12/09 00:38
2F:→ flymyfinger:啊真不号意思 我把以为後面有TIME 12/09 00:40
3F:推 pc78325:应该是当我听到的瞬间 12/09 00:40
4F:→ pc78325:不过还是辛苦了 :) 12/09 00:40
5F:推 rockheart:zepplin这样的大咖也赔啦,只能说自已小心 12/09 00:41
6F:→ rockheart:Led zeppelin 12/09 00:42
7F:推 wangchinmao:Satch 加油!! 12/09 00:46
8F:推 tooodark:谢谢翻译 12/09 01:28
9F:推 kenzi:我个人很喜欢JOE 但是我觉得几个小节雷同是很常发生的事 12/09 01:47
10F:→ flymyfinger:如果可以的话我满想知道JOE认为哪些部份有涉及到抄袭 12/09 01:53
11F:推 kenzi:再听了一次 其实只有前三个音"一模一样" 後面转折的音有些许 12/09 02:08
12F:→ kenzi:不同 我真的觉得光头老太大惊小怪了 12/09 02:09
13F:推 abc5026:所有人都在想说我可能是故意想给冷玩一些"颜射"瞧瞧!!! 12/09 03:59
※ 编辑: flymyfinger 来自: 118.167.69.95 (12/09 04:15)
14F:推 snitch3kimo:K大 那首歌也才几个小节 光头是演奏曲 当然不可能全抄 12/09 06:16
15F:→ snitch3kimo:而且连木吉他都直接上 太夸张了 光头加油 12/09 06:17
16F:推 dollow333:我听过比较之後,真的太相似了,整首歌的重心就在一样的小 12/09 08:30
17F:→ dollow333:节,如果是说陪衬或修饰一点的乐句还没差,但直接拿来作.. 12/09 08:31
18F:→ wpd:真的只有三个音吗?? 12/09 08:32
19F:推 calainaz:超级大咖的小人物 12/09 08:40
20F:推 goldflower:有些许不同就不算抄袭吗= = 他们连中间休息的点都一样 12/09 08:51
21F:→ sd65535:那我弹PGilbert的歌不能像他弹那麽乾净~也算我自创曲? 12/09 09:36
23F:推 mbtwolf:合体版超有趣阿 哈哈 12/09 10:52
24F:推 Bzbon:听了合体版真的很合 一个背景音乐 一个在唱 XD 12/09 11:41
25F:推 kenzi:只能说每个人对创作和抄袭的认知不同 的确是真的很像 12/09 11:55
26F:→ kenzi:但是这样类似的情形真的很容发生 是否是抄袭只有CP自己知道 12/09 11:57
27F:→ kenzi:或许他们真的是自己创作的呢 那不就冤枉好人了? 12/09 11:57
28F:推 goldflower:CP他们不想谈这件事 不知到底是心里有鬼还是身上有屎 12/09 12:22
30F:→ DoAsInfinity:创作相似到连整首歌的编排方式都一样? 如果coldplay 12/09 12:36
31F:→ DoAsInfinity:真是自己创作, 那他们是衰到爆吧 12/09 12:36
32F:推 sd65535:如果自己创作刚好相似度太高还是要彻下架并且出来说明吧 12/09 12:49
33F:→ sd65535:你做的论文或专利如果别人比你早做出来注册了~ 12/09 12:50
34F:→ sd65535:一样要彻下来并礼冒性的道歉 12/09 12:51
35F:→ sd65535:没有什麽冤不冤枉的问题~重点是诚意如何而已 12/09 12:52
36F:推 jeff1125:楼上的论点中肯 不过真的有像... 12/09 14:22
37F:→ flymyfinger:JOE应该是赌烂冷玩的态度吧?! 12/09 15:53
38F:推 tcfshmdc:其实那个连结之前人家就有贴了 我只是翻出来而已 囧mm 12/09 16:53
39F:推 snitch3kimo:乾脆酷玩演唱会请光头当嘉宾帮它们弹这首歌不就好了 12/09 17:09
40F:推 hiro1221:Coldplay这下囧了 两首歌真的超像 12/09 17:16
41F:推 theurgy:COLDPLAY:宣布加入新吉他手 光头佬! 12/09 18:53
42F:推 lilyfish:倒是蛮好奇大家对Gary Moore的抄袭风波有没有什麽看法? 12/09 19:47
43F:推 civitcat00:颜射瞧瞧= = 12/09 19:50
44F:推 ominicom:Coldplay对这个事件的态度应该是重点... 12/09 20:41
45F:→ inyei:科科 12/09 21:45
46F:推 dollow333:重点是冷玩不理会....科科 12/09 22:11
47F:→ snitch3kimo:很难处理吧 道歉就代表抄袭 对歌迷伤害很大 12/09 22:42
48F:→ snitch3kimo:不道歉又得罪光头 大部分扯到抄袭的都只能上法庭 12/09 22:44
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50F:→ porque:还好我从没喜欢过冷玩XD 12/10 01:01
51F:推 sodina:给冷玩一些颜射瞧瞧 12/10 01:44
52F:→ breakgo31: 颜射瞧瞧 12/10 01:46
53F:→ porque:给冷玩一些颜射瞧瞧 这句超靠北的XD 12/10 02:46
54F:推 guitarlon:给冷玩一些颜射瞧瞧 完全一模一样超靠北 12/10 10:26
55F:推 meinami:我可以推合体版里的"....:o SOUNDS AWESOME.."吗 XDDD 12/10 11:55
56F:推 pika2100:冷玩一些颜射瞧瞧 光头全名到底怎麽念啊 12/10 12:30
57F:→ porque:光头就Joe Satriani呀 12/10 14:41
58F:推 pika2100:楼上说废话 我是说要怎麽讲XD 12/10 17:46
59F:→ shiawping:哭哭...我还蛮喜欢这首歌说... 12/10 17:57
60F:→ porque:我英文不好 XD 12/10 18:00
61F:推 sodina:不是沙tri阿尼吗? 12/11 01:41