※ [本文转录自 Gossiping 看板 #1MfFvdiS ] 作者: qweasd777 (qweasd777) 看板: Gossiping 标题: [爆卦] CNN Kristie 访问黄国昌 逐字稿 时间: Mon Jan 25 00:40:00 2016 好多天以前的了，不过还是打了一下 PDF档：http://goo.gl/esq5K2 影片：https://youtu.be/9G-G4SZfbz0 附上鲁宅多益500分的不专业翻译 STEVENS: Right, let's turn back now to Taiwan where voters are soon to cast their ballots in landmark presidential and parliamentary elections. Kristie Lu Stout is on the spot for us and joins us once again from Taipei. Campaign there going right down to the wire. It's just a few hours to go, Kristie, but they are still pretty active. Stevens: 我们现在把镜头转回台湾，选民很快就要在具有重要意义的总统与国会选举中 投下他们的选票，Kristie Lu Stout正在台北为我们连线，那里的选举可能要到最後一刻 结果才会分晓，距离大选只剩下几小时了，Kristie，但是他们气氛仍非常热烈。 LU STOUT: Oh, very active indeed. I'm at the site of the rally for the opposition DPP Party. Its candidate for president Tsai Ing-wen widely tipped to become the next president of Taiwan. And if so, she'd become the first female leader of the island. We have been listening to lots of speeches, songs under way, but you know, it's not a story of the presidential election, it's not only that going on here, there's also the parliamentary election, 113 seats in the Taiwan legislature up for grabs. 的确是，我目前正在民主进步党的选前之夜的现场，它的总统候选人蔡英文很有可能成为 下一任台湾的总统，如果真是这样的话，她将会成为这座岛上第一位女性的领导人，我们 已经听了很多的演讲，歌曲也正在播放，但你知道这不单是总统选举的报导，还有国会的 选举，在台湾总共有113席等着竞争。 And aiming for those seats, a number of parties called the third force. This is an umbrella term used to describe this new generation of youth movement parties that came out of the Sunflower Movement in 2014. And among the third force party is the New Power Party. And I have the leader of the New Power Party, Huang Kuo-chang, joining me right here. And thank you for joining me. You're running for the legislature. And you're widely tipped to get a seat. How are you feeling right now? 有一些叫作第三势力的政党目标锁定在那些席次上，这是一个总称去形容从2014年的太阳 花运动後出现的年轻世代的政党，在这之中有一个是时代力量，在我身边的是时代力量的 党主席黄国昌，谢谢你加入我们，你目前正在竞选国会而且很有可能得到席次，你现在的 心情怎麽样？ HUANG KUO-CHANG, NEW POWER PARTY: It's complex, but I feel grateful although it has been less than half year since I've announced my candidacy. 黄国昌：很复杂，但是我觉得很感谢，尽管在我宣布参与选举後还不到半年。 LU STOUT: You feel grateful... LU STOUT:你觉得很感谢… KUO-CHANG: Grateful and there are a lot of people walking through such an exciting journey with me. No matter what happens tomorrow, I'm grateful for all the people who stand behind me, supporting me and supporting Taiwan's democracy. I feel very proud of our country and our democracy. 黄国昌：很感谢而且有很多人陪着我走过这麽令人兴奋的过程，无论明天结果如何，我很 感谢所有支持国昌的人，支持我并支持台湾的民主，我很为我们国家跟我们的民主制度感 到骄傲。 LU STOUT: Now, Kuo-chang, you've been actively canvassing for votes. You were out there today knocking on doors, talking to people, even singing songs, pop songs, on the stage. I guess that's democracy Taiwan style. We tried to meet in Hong Kong. That meeting didn't work out because you weren't granted a visa. What happened? LU STOUT:现在，国昌，你一直很积极在争取选票，你今天稍早还在拜票跟选民对话甚至 是在台上唱歌，我想这是台湾选举的风格，我们之前试着在香港会面，但并没有成功因为 你的签证没有被准许，发生什麽事？ KUO-CHANG: I think the question to be best answered by the Hong Kong authorities. What I did just like an ordinary citizen trying to apply for Hong Kong visa through the internet but it was denied. And actually, several years ago, I was invited by Hong Kong University to attend the academic conference and at that time there was no problem at all for me to enter Hong Kong. But two years ago after the Sunflower Movement, I tried to go to Hong Kong to support the Umbrella Movement but at that time, that was the first time my application for Hong Kong visa was denied. And this time I got the invitation from CNN, I feel so excited, I do want to go to Hong Kong. 黄国昌：我想这个问题最好请香港官方来回答，我只是像一般民众试着在网路上申请香港 的签证，但是被拒绝了，事实上好几年前，我曾经被香港的大学邀请去参加学术会议，在 那个时候对我来说进入香港是完全没问题的，但两年前在太阳花运动结束以後，我曾想要 去香港支持他们的雨伞革命，但我的香港签证就在那时第一次被拒绝，这次我得到从CNN 过来的邀请，我非常的兴奋，我真的很想过去香港… LU STOUT: But your application was denied. And we did ask and we inquired -- we asked the Hong Kong government but they said they can't comment on individual cases. I understand that here in Taiwan, a lot of people are actively looking at what's going on in Hong Kong because of you trying to get a visa, that apparently being denied, looking at the case of missing book sellers and people in Taiwan look at the situation in Hong Kong, how does it make people here feel about their relationship they want with China? LU STOUT:但你的签证没过，我们真的去问过香港政府，但他们说他们不能对个案评论， 我知道在台湾有很多人因为你的签证被拒绝或是书商失踪的事件很关注香港发生什麽事了 ，以及台湾人观察香港的情况，这些事如何影响这里的人对他们想和中国维持什麽样的关 系？ KUO-CHANG: First, let me start by emphasizing Taiwanese people are very peaceful. We definitely want a peaceful relationship with Mainland China, but that doesn't necessarily mean we have to sacrifice our way of life and our democracy. I hope the international community can understand and respect Taiwanese people's will to decide our own future. I hope China can respect and understand that as well. 黄国昌：首先我必须要强调台湾人是非常和平的，我们绝对希望和中国有和平的的关系， 但那并不代表我们得要牺牲我们的生活方式以及我们的民主制度，我希望国际社群可以理 解并尊重台湾去决定我们自己未来的意志，我也希望中国方面可以如此。 LU STOUT: There's a perception out there that the Sunflower Movement, the youth movement is also an anti-China movement in Taiwan. Is it an anti-China movement? LU STOUT:有一种在外面的认知是太阳花运动、年轻人的运动在台湾也是反中国的运动， 它是反中的运动吗？ KUO-CHANG: I don't see that as anti-China movement. That is more pro-democracy. We want to uphold our constitutional democracy and our rule of law. That is the biggest rationale behind the whole Sunflower Movement. Although China plays a role in that because China trying to ruin our democracy and trying to tell Taiwanese people, marry us or I will shoot you. That is not going to help to improve the relationship between Taiwan and China. The young people in Taiwan are very angry about China's attitude in that regard. We respect Chinese people's own decision, their way of life, we hope the Chinese people, especially the Communist Party, can respect our will and our democracy as well. KUO-CHANG:我并不认为那是反中的运动，那可以说是比较支持民主的运动，我们想要去维 护我们的宪政民主和我们的法律制度，这才是太阳花运动背後最根本的原因，中国在里面 也扮演了一个角色，因为中国试图去破坏我们的民主制度并想要告诉台湾人民，支持我们 或者是我将攻击你，这种方式对於改善中国与台湾的关系是毫无帮助的，台湾的年轻世代 对於在这件事上中国的态度非常的愤怒，我们尊重中国人民自己的决定和他们的生活方式 ，我们也希望中国人民，特别是中国共产党也可以尊重我们的意愿及我们的民主制度。 LU STOUT: Huang Kuo-chang, leader of the New Power Party. Many thanks indeed for joining me here on CNN. LU STOUT:黄国昌，时代力量的党主席，非常谢谢你加入我们在CNN上的讨论。 KUO-CHANG: My pleasure. 黄国昌：是我的荣幸。 LU STOUT: And thank you for allowing us show your thoughts with us. LU STOUT:也谢谢你和我们分享你的想法。 KUO-CHANG: Thank you for coming Taiwan to allow the world to see our democracy. 黄国昌：谢谢你们到台湾来让世界能够看到我们的民主制度。 LU STOUT: Thank you. Thank you. Andrew, as you heard from Kuo-chang just then, as China is not doubt closely watching the election here in Taiwan, the people in Taiwan are closely watching events in Hong Kong and also closely watching events in Mainland China. But as we heard from the third force candidate running for one of these 113 legislative seats up for grabs tomorrow in the election, he says that his movement, the youth movement in Taiwan, it's not an anti-China movement, but pro-Taiwan movement. Back to you. STEVENS: Absolutely. Very clear message indeed sent. Kristie, thanks very much for that. Krsitie Lu Stout joining us from Taipei. 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