标题: Guilty until proven innocent (在证明清白前都视为有罪) The lynch mob against T-ara and who is really to blame (反对T妞的暴民，谁应该为这件事负责?) 是对於Innocent until proven guilty (无罪推定)的相反 藉以反讽各式路人、anti 看到黑影就开枪、未审先判的行为。 The fallout from Hwayoung‘s split with T-ara has been nothing short of cataclysmic, and resulted in an all-out witch hunt against the current T-ara members. The group has lost endorsement deals, been forced to cancel concerts, fan cafes have shut down, petitions and groups to have T-ara disbanded and to uncover the truth behind the scandal have attracted hundreds of thousands of people, netizens have called for the members to be removed from their current television shows, a music program director has said he will no longer contact T-ara, and much more. 花英从T妞的离开充满了戏剧性与话题，同时也成为了对於其余T妞的「猎女巫」般的狂热 失去代言、取消演唱会、fan cafes被迫关掉、各种要求T妞解散或是要求真相的的联署 与社团、网民要求T妞成员从戏剧下车、PD说以後不再联络T妞.... In less than a week, T-ara has gone from being one of the most loved groups in K-Pop to the most reviled and hated. But whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty, and why are the members of T-ara receiving all the vitriol instead of their controversial CEO, Kim Kwang Soo? 在短短不到一个礼拜内 妞们从最被喜爱的韩团之一成为最被唾骂、讨厌的团体。可是 无罪推定原则呢? 而且为什麽是T妞要承受所有的酸言酸语，而非他们那充满争议的社长 老金呢? The bulk of the anti-T-ara bandwagoning has stemmed from various reports of bullying — virtually all of which have turned out to be either misconstrued or completely false. The situation has gotten so bad that anonymous posts on web forums have been picked up by the media and reported as fact, and everybody has been so desperate for answers that they’re not stopping to separate the fiction from the fact 大部分antiT妞的声浪是源於霸凌的报导，可是事实上几乎全部这些报导不是误解的 (断章取义的) 就是完全是假的。情况糟到在论坛上的匿名文章被媒体拿来当作事实般报 导。而大家绝望的寻求解答以致他们不再多想以区分事实与虚构。 A photo of Hyomin accidentally bumping Hwayoung as she raised her arm was transformed by netizens into “Hyomin pokes Hwayoung in the eye!“. A video of Hwayoung opening her mouth for Eunjung to put a rice cake in it suddenly became an attempt at choking by force-feeding, but what netizens failed to mention was that it was a Japanese game show where you had to put sweets into someone’s mouth and then try make a sound with your mouth full. As if things couldn’t get any more far-fetched, a photo of Hwayoung chatting with INFINITE and SISTAR at the ‘Idol Olympics’ broadcast was somehow turned into Hwayoung having to sit with them because T-ara wouldn’t speak to her. 孝敏在伸起手臂意外的打到花英的照片被网民解读为"孝敏戳了花英的眼睛!" 恩静喂食花英米糕的影片突然变成静想要噎死花英的恶毒行动，网民却故意略过这是 一个日本游戏节目，静是为了进行游戏惩罚让花英含着米糕发出声音的事实。 还有扯更远的:在偶像运动会花英跟INFINITE还有SISTAR聊天的照片也被解读为因为 其它妞不跟她说话而不得不与其他团的人坐在一起。 There was never any speculation that Hwayoung had been bullied before last week, yet now all it takes is a photo of her hanging with Bora to serve as evidence that she’s been ostracized by her own group. Does this selca of Eunjung and KARA’s Gyuri mean that they too, are victims of bullying? Anybody can take a photo and fabricate a story around it. 在上礼拜之前，从来没有花英有被霸凌的传闻，然而现在一张她与宝拉在一起的照片却 被用来做为花英被排挤的证据。照这样的逻辑，那恩静与KARA的奎利的自拍也代表他们 两个是被排挤者?任何人都可以拿一张照片然後看图说故事。 There was even a shocking report that Jiyeon slapped Hwayoung across the face — a report that literally stemmed from an anonymous forum post from somebody claiming to be a member of T-ara’s dance team, Yama & Hot Chicks. When the leader of the dance team came forward to shoot down the false claims, it was too late. The article was already a most-read story across the web, and the damage was done 还有一个更吓人的报导:龙搧了小花一巴掌，然而这篇报导是根据一个匿名者宣称是T妞 们的舞团的成员在论坛上发表的文章。虽然舞团队长出来做了澄清，也已经太迟了。 文章早已在网路上大肆流传，而伤害也造成了。(很多人看了文章就说 喔!一定有排挤 然後也不会在管之後的澄清了) It should take more than some out-of-context photos, anonymous forum posts, and unsubstantiated stories to convince the world that T-ara is a pack of evil bullies who tormented and assaulted their bandmate. This is 2012, but right now people are acting like it’s the 1600s and we’re all at the Salem witch trials. 照理说，要将T妞们打为一个充满邪恶恶霸，会折磨虐待团员的恶质团体应该需要比 断章取义的照片、匿名文章以及证据不足的报导更有力的资料。在2012的今天，人们却 像一群聚集在十七世纪女巫审判的愚民。 The only thing that seems somewhat accurate in all of this drama is that there was an incident on last week’s Music Bank where Hwayoung was upset for an as-yet-unknown reason, and refused to go on stage for T-ara’s scheduled performance. This caused the other members to have to cover for her at the last minute, and resulted in a mistake being made during the performance. Some T-ara members were then unprofessional and tweeted their disappointment over Hwayoung’s actions, which led to them being labelled as bullies. This information about Music Bank does not confirm that T-ara are bullies, nor does it confirm that Hwayoung is troublesome. All it confirms is that Hwayoung refused to perform on Music Bank –which may or may not have been for a perfectly valid reason– and that the others members disagreed with that decision. 在这整个庞大的drama中唯一似乎有些值得相信的事实是: 上礼拜的MB中 小花为了某个"未知的原因"感到非常沮丧而拒绝上台，而有了孝敏代打 的後续，然後有唱错，而其他T妞做了不专业的举动(这句我有点不同意)在推特上表达了 对小花的失望(推特的解法还是很多..我觉得。只是无论如何孝英的回推是排挤说的开始) 而这些推特让妞们被贴上霸凌的标签。关於MB事件的这些资讯并不代表T妞就是施暴者， 也不代表小花是个问题任务。这只证明了小花拒绝在MB上表演，无论是不是为了一个合理 的理由，而其他成员不赞成这样的决定。 Does anybody remember what happened to the Sugababes back in 2009? Keisha Buchanan was fired from the group amidst claims she was a bully, but fans and the public still took her side and blamed member Amelle Berrabah for the entire thing. People adopted a lynch mob mentality, similar to the one we are currently seeing against T-ara, and eventually their attacks against Amelle were so vicious that she had a nervous breakdown and had to spend three-weeks recovering in a treatment facility. Reports that Keisha had been a bully were never confirmed, the fans eventually calmed down and got over it, and life went on as usual. If only everyone had behaved more rationally and not jumped to conclusions, then Amelle’s unfortunate breakdown could have been avoided all together. (I should know, because I was one of the many people who sent abusive tweets to Amelle at the time!) 还有人记得sugababes在2009年发生的事情吗?Keisha因为有人宣称他霸凌其他人而被踢出 但fans跟大众仍然站在他这边而将责任归在Amelle上。与现在对於T妞一样，大众被搧动成 为暴民，而舆论的攻击严重到Amelle精神崩溃，而花了三个月复健。Keisha霸凌的传闻 最後没有得到证实，粉丝们最後冷静下来，然後一切就如以前进行了。如果当时大家有 理性一点而非跳到结论的话，精神崩溃的惨剧就可以避免了。为什麽我知道?因为我也是 对Amelle发出恶意twitter的人之一。 还有十段 崩崩 XD While everybody is busy blaming T-ara for Hwayoung’s departure, few seem to be looking at Kim Kwang Soo, who may very well be more responsible for this entire ordeal than anybody else involved 当大家都在忙着为了花英的离开而责怪妞们时，很少人在关注很可能醉要为这整件事情 负责的老金 (很显然作者不看PTT XD) In my April article about T-ara’s then-announced member changes, I expressed my concern over the way Kim Kwang Soo was managing the group. I said that he was creating an unhealthy environment for the group by encouraging them to compete against one another and by threatening to fire or replace any members who didn’t comply. Now that he’s made good on his threats, it’s T-ara who are being blamed. 在我四月针对妞们加人的文章中，我表达了我对金光猪经营T-ara方式的不满。 我说他营造了一个鼓励竞争、威胁要踢出、替换不听话的成员的不良环境，而他现在将 它的威胁兑现， 却是妞们在受责骂。 In the same article, I also took a look at how severely Kim Kwang Soo had been overworking T-ara. In a nutshell, the group hadn’t had a vacation since their debut in 2009 and hadn’t received a day off in one year, members were performing on top of serious injuries, Jiyeon collapsed on stage from exhaustion, and at times the group’s work load was so heavy that they had 12 schedules in one day. 在同一篇文章，我也发现老金如何让T妞过劳。一言以蔽之，妞们自从09年出道就没有 放过长假，在这一年连休一天都没有，还要带着伤硬上。还有发生如龙在台上因为疲惫 而臭脸引发网友攻击(感谢vincex大补充)。 而有时候妞们的工作量大到一天有12个行程 要跑。 Now picture the kind of stress that would bring on the members of T-ara, and then remember that Hwayoung was not part of the original T-ara lineup. She was added to the group in 2010. So Hwayoung was added to a group that was already successful, a group that had been together for years (if you include their training days), a group that was being severely overworked in a high-stress environment, and a group that was encouraged by their CEO to compete against one another 现在想像一下这些情形会带给妞们多大的压力，同时请记得小花并不是T妞的原班人马， 他是在2010加入的。花英加入了一个已经成功的团体，且彼此认识数年(加上练习生时期) 在高压力的环境中过度操劳，还有个鼓励他们彼此竞争的社长。 If any of the unsubstantiated bullying claims are true, or even if Hwayoung was simply just an ‘outcast’ in T-ara, it’s not hard to see why. 如果这些没有根据的霸凌说是真的，或甚至花英只是在T-ara中较为受冷落的那一个， 其实也不难发现为什麽。 If you need any more proof that Kim Kwang Soo isn’t the greatest CEO on the planet, then look no further than Nam Gyuri. The idol was a member former CCM girl group SeeYa, before she left back in 2009 for financial reasons and to pursue an acting career. What followed was a messy and very public war of words in which Kim Kwang Soo revealed scandalous information about Gyuri in the press and claimed that she uncooperative and missed schedules, the remaining SeeYa members held a press conference and painted Gyuri out to be a selfish diva, and Gyuri called Kim Kwang Soo “the devil”, denied his allegations against her and implied that it was part of a smear campaign, and claimed her former bandmates were cold towards her and spoke behind her back. 如果你需要更多老金"并不是地球上最好的社长"的证据的话，可以看看SeeYa的Gyuri， 他在2009年为了财务上的理由离开而试图成为演员，结果老金开始了口水战:揭发了许多 Gyuri的丑闻，说他不合作、耽误日程，而剩下的SeeYa成员则在记者会指称Gyuri是个自 私的人。Gyuri则称老金为恶魔，并否认了他的控诉，称这些控诉为抹黑，同时也说他的 团员们对她很冷淡、在背後说他坏话。 There was probably a little truth to both sides of that story, but at the end of the day, people are going to disagree and have conflicts. It’s a normal part of life, and it’s happened to everybody 两边的说法可能都有一点为真，但在日常生活中，人们总是会有纷争与意见分歧，是每个 人生活的一部分。 When you’re looking at a Korean girl group, such as T-ara, a CEO is like the teacher or the parent of the group. The CEO has a responsibility to create a safe and healthy environment for the group, both at home in the dorm and at work, and to ensure that any petty issues are taken care of in a proper way so the dynamic of the group can remain positive and professional. Kim Kwang Soo appears to have done the exact opposite of that, and if there is any true disharmony in T-ara, it is he who should be held responsible before both Hwayoung and T-ara. 当你在欣赏一个如T-ara这样的KPOP女团，社长就如同他们的老师、家长，社长有责任 创造一个健康、安全的环境给他的团体，无论是在宿舍或在工作时，并确保各种鸡毛蒜皮 的小事都有被妥善处理，以保持正向、专业的团体气氛。而老金做的看起来完全是相反， 所以如果T-ara当中真的有什麽不和谐，他是最应该负责的，而非小花、其它妞。 As of now, the only real bullies in this whole situation are the netizens. Take one look at the comments section in a T-ara post on AllKPop right now, and you’ll either see a hypocritical flood of cruel and mean-spirited attacks directed at the group and its individual members, or just people laughing at the group’s current predicament. T-ara is being torn down for something that nobody even knows if they actually did or not. And if they did do it, then why did they do it? Not everything in life is black and white. 至於现在，真正的霸凌者其实是网民们。只要看一下ALLKPop关於T妞的文章下面的评论， 你要马看到大量虚伪、残酷、凶狠攻击T-ara或个别成员的言论，要马看到一堆在看笑话 的人。T-ara为了一件没人知道到底有没有发生的事情面临沉重的打击。而如果他们真的 有做呢?(霸凌)是为什麽呢?世上不是所有的事情都黑白分明的。 If it turns out that T-ara truly is just a bunch of evil bullying witches that tried to choke Hwayoung to death on rice cakes, poke her eyes out with their fingers, and gang up to destroy her umbrella, then fine — bash ‘em, hate ‘em, demand their disbandment, and more. But until then, everybody needs to put their torches and pitchforks down, and wait for a little something called the truth to come out. 如果最後T-ara真的只是一群恶毒、霸凌弱者的女巫，试图用米糕让小花呛到、用手指戳 小花的眼睛、一起破坏她的雨伞，那很好，唾弃他们、讨厌他们，要求他们解散，甚至 更多。但在这之前，大家应该先把他们的火把、耙子放下，等待一个叫"真相"的东西出来 翻完了... 顺便讲讲自己对这件事情的一点小看法吧... 版上的键盘柯南们也做出了许多精辟的评论，而我认为虽然在节目中小花有时候还是在 参与/不参与之间的拿捏还是有些生疏，有时候有点不自然的感觉 有时候却完全晾在 一旁，但我们也看到了许多他们感情很好的画面， 就拿运动会的画面 花英还大力的揉着嘎的屁屁 难道会有人愿意让自己很讨厌的人 揉自己屁股?= = " 碰到我都要拍好几下了 而且妞们也不是十几岁的小孩子了，难道会为了这种事情而要断送自己的未来? 说不太通吧... 我只觉得孝英的反推让这件事情定下了一开始的调调 後面的一切弥补效果都差了... 至於作者说网民才是施暴者 科科意外吗 一些乡民的水准从这几天被捅的就可知大概 一堆看热闹的 跟anti 唯恐天下不乱 不过说真的 现阶段我根本不在乎老金怎麽样阿= = 我只希望T-ara能停损 重新开始 T-ara Fighting! 嘎龙敏花静冏Q宝 Fighting! --

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