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标题[新闻] ASML Q1订单不如预期
时间Wed Apr 16 14:10:07 2025
原文标题:
Critical chip firm ASML flags tariff uncertainty after net bookings miss
关键晶片厂商ASML在订单不如预期後表示关税议题充满不确定性
原文连结:
https://tinyurl.com/2pw3ykzz
发布时间:
Wed, Apr 16 20251:12 AM EDT
记者署名:
Ryan Browne
原文内容:
Dutch semiconductor equipment firm ASML
on Wednesday missed on net bookings expectations, suggesting a potential
slowdown in demand for its critical chipmaking machines.
荷兰半导体设备商ASML周三公布Q1订单不如预期,显示关键半导体设备需求可能放缓。
ASML reported net bookings of 3.94 billion euros ($4.47 billion) for the
first three months of 2025, versus a Reuters reported forecast of 4.89
billion euros.
ASML在2025Q1认列3.94B Euro订单量,路透预期则是4.89B Euro
Here’s how ASML did versus LSEG consensus estimates for the first quarter:
Net sales: 7.74 billion, against 7.8 billion euros expected
Net profit: 2.36 billion, versus 2.3 billion euros expected
LSEG发布的预测比较:
Net sales: 实际7.74B,预测7.8B
Net Profit: 实际2.36B,预测2.3B
In comments accompanying the results, ASML CEO Christophe Fouquet said that
the demand outlook “remains strong” with artificial intelligence staying as
a key driver. However, he added that “uncertainty with some of our customers
” could take the company into the lower end of its full-year revenue
guidance.
ASML CEO说需求依然强劲,AI依然是关键动能
但部分客户不确定性可能会导致全年收入不如预期
ASML is estimating 2025 revenue of between of 30 billion euros to 35 billion
euros.
ASML预期2025年营收会在30B~35B Euro
Fouquet said that tariffs are “creating a new uncertainty” both on a
macroeconomic level and with respect to “our potential market demands.”
CEO说关税正在创造不确定性在总体经济学和潜在市场需求
“So this is a dynamic I think we have to watch very carefully,” Fouquet
said. “Now this being said, where we are today, we still see basically our
revenue range for 2025 being between basically €30 and €35 billion.”
虽然如此CEO仍然认为2025营收可以落在30~35B之间
Global chip stocks have been fragile over the last two weeks amid worries
about how U.S. President Donald Trump’s tariff plans will affect the
semiconductor supply chain.
由於担心川普的关税计画影响半导体供应链,所以过去两周全球的晶片库存都一直非常脆弱,
Last week, the U.S. administration announced smartphones, computers and
semiconductors would be temporarily exempted from his so-called “reciprocal
” duties on counterparties. But on Sunday, Trump and his top trade officials
created confusion with comments that there would be no tariff “exception”
for the electronics industry, and that these goods were instead moving to a
different “bucket.”
上周,美国政府先宣布手机、电脑和半导体将被排除在互惠关税外,但稍後美国政府陈清
这些电子产品并不会得到豁免,而是转移到其他类别去,进而引发了混乱
On Tuesday, a federal government notice announced that the U.S. Commerce
Department was conducting a national security investigation into imports of
semiconductor technology and related downstream products. The probe will
examine whether additional trade measures, including tariffs, are “necessary
to protect national security.”
周二美国发起对半导体的国安调查,包括是否采取如关税等必须手段维持国家安全
心得/评论:
ASML=GG上游
目前只是设备订单阶段,不代表会马上影响到TSMC
但4.89B vs. 3.94B是19.5%的差距,这算是显着差距
其中中国订单其实3月应该就是清空了,因为ASML和中国那边都不知道未来还能不能出货
因此ASML本来就没继续接,同时中国在去年早就先下单囤货
然而Q1还是无法达到预期,代表有除了中国以外的客户也是放缓
至於是台湾、韩国还是美国,就不太确定了
2024中国占了36%的Net sales,其实基本上还是ASML最大的客户来源之一
假如没谈拢,後续其实设备需求应该也是会Delay
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1F:推 tigerzz3 : 川普:我们正在做对的事! (房子烧毁) 04/16 14:11
2F:推 YLTYY : GG在干什麽? 04/16 14:11
3F:推 coffee112 : 跳起来 呜呜呜 04/16 14:11
4F:推 pttstock : GG怎麽不拉货?!! 04/16 14:11
5F:→ topfree : 结算结束 鬼故事一个接一个开始了@@ 04/16 14:11
6F:推 AndyMAX : 阿祖国自身难保 04/16 14:11
7F:推 a70327cow : GG新的还没盖好 再忍一年 04/16 14:12
8F:推 DellSale999 : 丸子 04/16 14:12
9F:→ ChampionYe : 半导体盘前全面特价中 04/16 14:12
10F:推 clamperni : recession了 04/16 14:12
11F:推 ss425727100 : 水水水 全部都跌到股票变废纸 04/16 14:12
12F:推 CMPunk : 完了 都完了 04/16 14:13
13F:推 lessmoref : 台厂的无尘室案件… 04/16 14:13
14F:推 rebel : GG也怕接下来衰退没人要拉货 先观察看状况 04/16 14:13
15F:推 takeda3234 : 表示gg宁可现行设备满载上工也不要扩编产能…. 04/16 14:13
16F:嘘 qq866 : 又要崩盘了 04/16 14:13
17F:推 FatFatQQ : 成熟制成白菜价 04/16 14:13
18F:→ onit : 订单不是满档 买到後年了 04/16 14:13
19F:推 tigerzz3 : 时光倒流回到2022 晶圆跟盘子一样没人要 04/16 14:14
20F:→ niburger1001: 外皮内骨 04/16 14:14
21F:→ rebel : 订单可以砍阿 2022不是示范过了 04/16 14:14
22F:推 k0611812 : 衰退交易 04/16 14:15
23F:→ sing60905 : 这最直接证明目前没人要买了 AI蛙不是说满到不得了 04/16 14:15
24F:嘘 cir78918 : overbooking!!!!! 04/16 14:15
26F:推 lepidoptera : AI泡泡开始破罗 04/16 14:15
27F:推 snaketsai : 问阿川啊,美国政府才在那边调查,有种美国就包下去 04/16 14:16
28F:推 e04x8 : 熟悉的overbooking最对味 04/16 14:17
29F:推 aaa80563 : 至少90根 04/16 14:17
30F:推 jokem : 开始罗 04/16 14:18
31F:推 yoyodiy : 中国都能自制深紫曝光机了 以後ASML只能吃土 04/16 14:18
32F:推 a28200266 : overbooking 04/16 14:19
33F:→ aimlikenoob : 台南高雄台积宅死去 04/16 14:19
34F:→ aiolk : 不就DUV卖不好的关系 04/16 14:20
35F:推 deann : 跟台积宅有啥关系? 04/16 14:20
36F:推 wemee : 楼下都看寰宇新闻 坚信中国国产光科机不输ASML 04/16 14:20
37F:推 GingFreecss : 这家本来就不如预期很久了 台积现在也没钱跟你买了 04/16 14:20
38F:→ GingFreecss : 钱被美国人赶走了 04/16 14:20
39F:推 bsnid : 数字差异甚微 04/16 14:20
40F:→ GingFreecss : 干走了 04/16 14:21
41F:推 xander1525 : 崩崩 04/16 14:21
42F:→ ealleneee91 : 这样gg还想去美国设厂 设仓储喔__ 04/16 14:21
43F:→ bsnid : 路透社的数字怎麽跟别人差这麽多 04/16 14:21
44F:推 believefate : 看来台积蛙要套一整年了 04/16 14:21
45F:→ aimlikenoob : 你盖厂不用买设备吗,设备没人买厂还会盖? 04/16 14:22
46F:推 super0949 : 不意外 去年被搞 今年又被搞 被美玩死 04/16 14:22
47F:→ bsnid : 只能说LSEG很准 路透社乱估 04/16 14:22
Net booking/Net Sales/Net Profit不太一样喔
48F:嘘 angeltear15 : 笑屎 鬼故事? 04/16 14:22
49F:→ bsnid : 拿一个市场上估计差最多的数字来写鬼故事 04/16 14:23
50F:→ bsnid : 准的机构就当作没看到 04/16 14:24
你先看清楚一下再来干谯路透比较好XD
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51F:嘘 laogiby : 桥头勇士 忠诚!! 04/16 14:24
52F:→ ealleneee91 : 白x川普 搞到没人用先进 制程,那竹科拔根拆掉, 04/16 14:24
53F:→ ealleneee91 : 去设美国算了 04/16 14:24
54F:推 Leo3492351 : 这家哪有一季如预期的没差啦 04/16 14:25
55F:→ laogiby : overbooking 你是忘记了 还是害怕想起来 cc 04/16 14:25
56F:推 WANGSH : 台湾完了 04/16 14:26
57F:推 Cliffx : 死 04/16 14:26
58F:推 s213092921 : 中国:喜欢我的新凯来国产光刻机吗? 04/16 14:26
59F:→ Cliffx : 订单随时都能砍 04/16 14:27
60F:→ jacket664 : 断供台积电机台跟原料根本是假议题,这些设备商会先 04/16 14:27
61F:→ jacket664 : 倒闭,全世界除了台积电没人吃得下这麽大的量 04/16 14:27
62F:推 rumblefish : 躺四年吧 04/16 14:28
63F:推 kacomo : 先不急着买设备, 不确定性这麽高... 04/16 14:28
64F:推 TMDkid : 300收 04/16 14:28
65F:推 cct1121 : 先行指标 糟糕了 04/16 14:28
66F:→ kacomo : 缺货的话可以加价买, 要怪就怪川普XD 04/16 14:29
67F:推 moto000 : 台积:订单满出来了 04/16 14:29
68F:→ deann : 台积电又不急着买设备 04/16 14:31
70F:推 darkangel119: 20% 刚好两根 04/16 14:36
71F:→ s72005ming : 完了 04/16 14:37
72F:嘘 cir78918 : 桥头勇士:乌欧!! 04/16 14:41
73F:推 raxxar82 : 大爆崩 04/16 14:44
74F:推 stocktonty : 本来就要下滑了吧 04/16 14:46
75F:推 josephpu : 有趣的是台湾三月进口爆量 04/16 14:46
76F:→ vava5566 : 买机器,不知道要去哪生产? ASML亏麻了 04/16 14:52
77F:推 fucking : 直接变NMSL 04/16 15:52
78F:→ wuklean : GG不是订单满出来??? 04/16 15:54
79F:推 reese0326 : GG只值500 04/16 15:58
80F:推 asidy : 欧洲没关税问题吧 04/16 16:07
81F:推 Allyssa : 季减很正常,Q1本来就淡季 04/16 16:54
82F:→ Allyssa : ASML Q1年增46.34% 诶 04/16 16:54
83F:→ Allyssa : 比2024 Q1 多46% 04/16 16:55
84F:→ Allyssa : 新闻都不提 04/16 16:55
86F:→ Allyssa : 财报其实还行,就花街要继续砍股价 04/16 16:56
87F:→ Allyssa : 净利是超过预期的 04/16 16:57
88F:→ a92011 : 春江水暖鸭先知,ASML不如预期是反应未来半导体市况 04/16 17:03
89F:→ a92011 : 楼上A大股票部位是不是压很大??? 急了??? 04/16 17:04
90F:→ zzzzaaaa : gg再拖着不拉货小心又被川普教训 04/16 17:05
91F:推 JT0624 : 不卖中国就是等台积电 04/16 19:09
92F:推 kiou : 嗯 GG 拉货 一看就知道不懂scanner 04/16 21:41
93F:→ huabandd : 想办法设计更强的光刻机就有市场了,加油 04/17 13:04