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原文标题:LVMH finds making Louis Vuitton bags messy in Texas 原文连结:https://tinyurl.com/377s9pfu 发布时间:Thu, April 10, 2025 at 1:04 PM GMT+8 记者署名:By Tassilo Hummel and Waylon Cunningham 原文内容: ALVARADO, Texas / PARIS (Reuters) -Six years ago, LVMH's billionaire CEO Bernard Arnault and President Donald Trump cut the blue ribbon on a factory in rural Texas that would make designer handbags for Louis Vuitton, one of the world’s best-known luxury brands. But since the high-profile opening, the factory has faced a host of problems limiting production, 11 former Louis Vuitton employees told Reuters. The site has consistently ranked among the worst-performing for Louis Vuitton globally, “significantly” underperforming other facilities, according to three former Louis Vuitton workers and a senior industry source, who cited internal rankings shared with staff. The plant’s problems – which haven’t previously been reported – highlight the challenges for LVMH as it attempts to build its production footprint in the U.S. to avoid Trump’s threatened tariffs on European-made goods. “The ramp-up was harder than we thought it would be, that’s true,” Ludovic Pauchard, Louis Vuitton’s industrial director, said in an interview on Friday in response to detailed questions about Reuters findings. The Texas site, situated on a 250-acre ranch, has struggled due to a lack of skilled leather workers able to produce at the brand’s quality standards, the three former workers told Reuters. “It took them years to start making the simple pockets of the Neverfull handbag,” one source familiar with operations at the plant said, referring to the classic Louis Vuitton shoulder tote bag. Errors made during the cutting, preparation and assembly process led to the waste of as many as 40% of the leather hides, said one former employee with detailed knowledge of the factory’s performance. Industry-wide, typical waste rates for leather goods are generally 20%, a senior industry source said. Several former employees who spoke to Reuters described a high pressure environment. To boost production numbers, supervisors routinely turned a blind eye toward methods to conceal defects, and in some cases encouraged them, four former employees told Reuters. Pauchard acknowledged there had been such cases in the past, but said the issue had been resolved. “This dates back to 2018 and one particular manager who isn’t part of the company anymore,” he said. Poorly-crafted handbags deemed unfit for sale are shredded on-site and carted away in trucks for incineration, two of the sources with knowledge of the firm ’s supply chain said. A former production supervisor who often travelled to the site, said Louis Vuitton mostly used the Texas plant for less sophisticated handbag models, producing its most expensive products elsewhere. Pauchard, Louis Vuitton's industrial director, said the company was being “ patient” with “a young factory.” “Any bag that goes out of it must be a Louis Vuitton bag, we make sure it meets exactly the same quality,” he said. “I am not aware of any kinds of issues suggesting the quality coming from Texas is any different from that coming from Europe.” MADE IN USA Perched behind a hill, the handbag maker's two production facilities were built on grounds near grazing cattle and a gas well. Louis Vuitton named the site Rochambeau in tribute to a French general who fought in the Revolutionary War. Workers at the site make components and entire models of Louis Vuitton handbags like Felice pochettes and Metis bags – with "Made in USA" tags inside. The items sell for around $1,500 and $3,000 at high-end boutiques. LVMH declined to comment when asked which handbag models are fully or partially made in Texas but former workers interviewed by Reuters mentioned the Carryall, Keepall, Metis, Felice and Neverfull handbag lines among the plant's products. In its marketing material, Louis Vuitton says its handbags - typically made at French, Spanish or Italian leather ateliers by artisans known as "petites mains” - are assembled using a process that it has perfected since the mid 19th century. After cutting canvas and leather using hand tools and laser- cutting machines, they stitch pieces together using industrial sewing machines . Workers at the Texas facility, which includes dedicated floors for cutting and for assembly as well as a warehouse, were initially paid $13 per hour. As of 2024, base pay for a leather worker position at the plant was $17 per hour, according to two people who recently applied for positions. The minimum wage in Texas is $7.25 an hour. A former leather worker who arrived as a migrant in the U.S. some years before , said she felt proud when she was hired by the prestigious French brand, but said some workers struggled to meet the brand’s quality standards and production targets. "We were under a lot of pressure to make the daily goals," said the former worker, who left the factory at the end of 2019. Another person who worked at the facility until 2023 said she cut corners, like using a hot pin to “melt” canvas and leather to conceal imperfections in a particularly difficult piece called the Vendome Opera Bag. Another former leather worker said they’d seen people melt material to hide holes or other imperfections in stitching. Damien Verbrigghe, Louis Vuitton’s international manufacturing director, conceded some at the Texas plant had chosen to change jobs or leave because of its stringent quality requirements. “There are artisans that we hire, who we train and who, after several weeks, or months, realize in light of the expectations, the level of detail that is required, they would rather work in other fields like logistics,” he said. “ Some people chose to leave us, because it’s true that it’s a job that requires a lot of savoir faire.” Three former workers at the plant said they received between two and five weeks of training. A current Louis Vuitton employee in France said receiving just a few weeks of training wasn't unusual as most learning happens on the production line supervised by more experienced craftspeople. "Knowledge of sewing on leather/canvas is a plus, but not required. We offer comprehensive training,” the company said in a job posting for artisan positions in Alvarado published on its website in January. Verbrigghe said training in Texas is “exactly the same program that we have in all our workshops,” that is, six weeks on the training line, where new artisans do nothing but learn basic operations and skills before going on to train on the assembly line. There, he said, they are “accompanied and continuously mentored by trainers.” TAX BREAKS LVMH got a host of tax breaks and incentives from Johnson County, including a 10-year, 75% property tax cut, promising the company an estimated $29 million in savings. ”We look forward to serving this exceptional company,” wrote the county’s top executive, Roger Harmon, in 2017 correspondence seen by Reuters . In its 2017 application letter for the tax abatement, obtained by Reuters through records request, LVMH said it was aiming to hire 500 people within the first five years of the plan. At the ribbon-cutting ceremony in 2019, Arnault said, “We will create approximately 1,000 high-skilled jobs here at Rochambeau over the next five years.” Three former staffers, however, said headcount stood at just under 300 workers in February 2025, a figure Verbrigghe confirmed. The White House did not respond to a Reuters request for comment. Pauchard said initial recruitment difficulties were largely due to the COVID- 19 pandemic and the lockdown that followed, adding that a decline in local demand also played a role. Despite the problems, LVMH is planning to move even more jobs to Texas. LVMH said in its 2017 filing that its first Texas production facility would cost around $30 million. A second filing from 2022 to local authorities put the cost of its second workshop, completed last year, at $23.5 million. At a town hall last fall, workers at one of two California production sites were told that it would close 2028 and they could move to Texas or quit, according to a former employee who was present. Pauchard confirmed the town hall and said Louis Vuitton intended to streamline its California operations and transfer more skilled artisans to Texas - with so far limited success. Its executives, he said, “underestimated the fact that Texas is far away from California.” 心得/评论: LVMH 在德州制造 LV 包包困难重重 六年前,LVMH 的亿万富豪执行长伯纳·阿尔诺(Bernard Arnault)与时任总统唐纳·川 普一同在德州乡间为 Louis Vuitton 的工厂剪彩,该厂预定要为这个全球知名的奢侈品 牌制造手提包。 然而,自从这场高调开幕以来,该工厂生产遇到种种问题。11 名前 Louis Vuitton 员工 向《路透社》透露,这座工厂在全球 LV 工厂中一直排名垫底,表现「明显」落後其他厂 区。据三名前员工与一位高阶业内人士指出,这些数据来自内部绩效排名。 此问题突显 LVMH 在美国建立制造据点时所面临的挑战,这原本是为了应对川普对欧洲制 商品威胁徵收关税的政策。 Louis Vuitton 工业总监 Pauchard 承认:「生产提升比预期困难,这是真的。」 这座位於 250 英亩牧场上的德州工厂缺乏熟练的皮革工人,导致产品无法符合 LV 的品 质标准。有知情人士说:「他们花了几年才学会制作 Neverfull 包内的简单口袋。」 切割与组装过程中的失误,导致多达 40% 的皮料被浪费(业界平均为 20%)。 有些主管甚至纵容员工掩盖瑕疵。四名前员工说,工人使用熨烫针烫平缺陷,或是「融化 」皮革来掩饰瑕疵。品质不佳的包包会当场被粉碎後焚毁。 Pauchard 表示这种情况发生在 2018 年,当时的一位主管已离职。 工厂主要生产较简单的款式,较高价产品则由其他地区制作。Pauchard 表示他们会「耐 心等待」这座「年轻的工厂」进步,并强调每个出厂的包包都符合 LV 的品质。 这座位於小丘後方的厂区,名为「Rochambeau」,纪念法国独立战争中的将军。工人制作 如 Felice、Metis、Neverfull 等包款,内部标示为「美国制」。这些包在精品店售价约 在 1500 至 3000 美元之间。 工厂工人起薪最初为每小时 13 美元,2024 年升至 17 美元,而德州法定最低工资为 7. 25 美元。 一名前皮革工人表示,当初被这家法国品牌聘用时很骄傲,但不少同事无法达到生产与品 质标准。另一人透露,她曾使用热针融化布料来掩盖缺陷。 LV 制造总监 Verbrigghe 承认,不少工人因为品质要求太高而选择转行。他说:「我们 训练後,有些人发现这份工作需要过高的技术与细节,选择改行。」 三名前员工说他们仅接受 2 至 5 周的训练。LV 表示德州的训练跟其他厂区相同,皆为 6 周入门训练加上师徒制。 LV 还获得 Johnson 郡为期 10 年、75% 的房产税减免,估计省下 2900 万美元。 LV 承诺五年内雇用 500 人,2019 年剪彩时承诺创造 1000 个工作机会,但截至 2025 年 2 月仅有不到 300 名员工。 虽然工厂问题不少,但 LVMH 仍打算扩大德州产能。原本预算 3000 万美元兴建第一座工 厂,第二座则於 2023 年完工,耗资 2350 万美元。 根据一名前员工,LV 计划於 2028 年关闭加州某厂,让工人搬至德州或自行离职。 Pauchard 证实此计画,并坦言「低估了德州与加州的距离」。 **** 川普在前一任的任期就在玩 制造业回流美国Bring Manufacturing Back / Made in USA这事 理论上这政策对於振兴美国的蓝领就业、降低对中国等地供应链的依赖确实有帮助 But 人生中最厉害就是这个But 理想常常很美好,现实总是很骨感 这一任利用关税又玩一次这事 您各位觉得玩不玩得起来? --



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1F:推 goodevening : 美国人缝高级包包这是笑话吗 04/10 18:48
2F:→ maniaque : 这大概就是美积电的未来吧 04/10 18:48
3F:推 Brioni : 连LV都受不了….还是让机器人来吧 04/10 18:48
4F:→ maniaque : 工厂还没盖好,美国受雇者就把台积电告上法庭了 04/10 18:48
5F:推 ilw4e : 请贵松松美国人缝衣服缝输便宜亚洲人,就跟美积电一 04/10 18:48
6F:→ ilw4e : 样问题,美国制造业的人工就差啊 04/10 18:48
7F:推 nanako81240 : 不是法国的老师傅手工的吗? 04/10 18:48
8F:→ Jimny5566 : 肯定是雇到纯种美国白人黑人,雇用亚裔美国人就没 04/10 18:49
9F:→ Jimny5566 : 问题了 04/10 18:49
10F:嘘 agem : LB会怕关税?当然越贵越好 04/10 18:49
11F:→ maniaque : 以後美国工程师大概就负责开会泡茶领高薪 04/10 18:49
12F:推 tony15899 : 雇黑工都比亚洲廉价劳工贵 04/10 18:50
13F:推 sistar5566 : 德州有石油挖就不错了 整天忽略经济学想全部包 04/10 18:50
14F:推 oceanfishwu : 美国工程师搞不好还要你泡茶给他喝,不然说你霸凌 04/10 18:50
15F:→ maniaque : 然後动不动就举牌抗议美积电聘雇太多非美工程师了 04/10 18:50
16F:→ tonylolz : LV要怕关税? 04/10 18:50
17F:推 Jameshunter : 以後非尖端货品只要MIA就是烂货表现? 04/10 18:51
18F:推 etset : 美国工程师可以走印度模式 04/10 18:51
19F:推 talrasha : 美积电的工人诉讼案不是说明了 04/10 18:51
20F:→ kainolife : 暴利的包包还怕关税? 04/10 18:51
21F:推 tcypost : 有一堆拥护者幻想美国有制造精品的技术 04/10 18:52
22F:→ aloness : 这是请到猴子来缝 -.-? 04/10 18:54
23F:推 totomo168 : http://i.imgur.com/vnM58jv.jpg 04/10 18:54
24F:→ qrose666 : 难怪lv这两年款式都偏简单化 04/10 18:54
25F:→ boringuy : 时薪17美元在美国只请的到猴子,根本惯老板的问题 04/10 18:55
26F:推 goodevening : 美国车那种公差 跟人家做精品 很好笑啦 04/10 18:55
27F:推 pmes9866 : 完全无法想像红脖子做精品包包 04/10 18:56
28F:→ idernest : 不能找印地安人来做吗?他们很会 04/10 18:56
29F:推 apolloapollo: 叫美国人做家政 是钱太多吗 04/10 18:56
30F:推 carbooming : 这种品牌溢价这麽多的商品哪会怕关税 04/10 18:56
31F:→ yesonline : https://i.imgur.com/py9VnOb.jpeg 04/10 18:56
32F:→ dk3y93 : 不知道为什麽看到在德州制造就觉得弱了… 04/10 18:56
33F:→ moto000 : 解法:机器人20年後 04/10 18:57
34F:推 Fezico : LV卖的好的都是老花有差腻 04/10 18:57
35F:推 tio2catalyst: 太重太脏太久,人家美国人耶 04/10 18:58
36F:嘘 peter98 : 德州做的LV就一个Coach而已。 04/10 18:58
37F:推 AwokeN : 宁愿贵也不要德州制LV,反正精品本来就每年调两次 04/10 18:59
38F:推 Fezico : Coach喔?那就更没差惹好不 04/10 18:59
39F:推 oyaji5566 : 只能用当地人吧,台积电也是被迫用当地人 04/10 18:59
40F:推 ji394tb : 美国人不意外 04/10 19:00
41F:→ amig0123 : 该提告了吧 伟大的美国人民 学学告台积的人 联合吧 04/10 19:00
42F:推 ccdg : 这个应该要用熟手吧 04/10 19:00
43F:推 YSJ543 : 精品不是越贵越有价吗 04/10 19:00
44F:推 abellea85209: 美国人做不起拉 别傻了 04/10 19:01
45F:推 tony15899 : 不过买LV的人会在意品质吗 04/10 19:01
46F:推 goodevening : 还不能说做很烂退回重做 会被告歧视 04/10 19:01
47F:→ Fezico : 没啦,如果是Coach随便做就好 04/10 19:01
48F:推 Enzofulgura : 笑死 怎麽会觉得LV包有办法给美国大老粗做 04/10 19:02
49F:推 goodevening : lv很多人会看缝线啦 车缝线跟tesla车门公差一样怎 04/10 19:03
50F:→ goodevening : 麽办 04/10 19:03
51F:嘘 a22530722 : 【【【【我看台湾人给美国制造比较简单】】】】 04/10 19:04
52F:推 gginin7878 : 白皮猪也太混了吧 04/10 19:04
53F:推 pponywong : 靠杯 你要红脖做包包 还不如叫他们去做枪比较快 04/10 19:05
54F:→ epephanylo : 美国制的LV 印度制的哀凤 呵呵 04/10 19:05
55F:推 goodevening : 美国人就是过太爽 之前原神配音员争议也是 04/10 19:05
56F:推 peatle : 这题简单,学爱马仕配货涨价就好ㄌ = = 04/10 19:06
57F:推 kenro : 美国人要做细致的工作似乎都不太行,但研发倒是很强 04/10 19:06
58F:→ peatle : 买精品的有在跟你计较价格? 04/10 19:06
59F:→ peatle : 根本不用班导美国好吗 04/10 19:06
60F:推 bj45566 : LV 最近销售额蛮惨的... 04/10 19:07
61F:推 AndyMAX : 不意外 美国连制表业都没有 低阶工业不行 精密工业 04/10 19:08
62F:→ AndyMAX : 也不行 04/10 19:08
63F:推 airflow : 德州人只会缝枪套啦, 我看LV你是不懂喔 04/10 19:09
64F:→ willism : 怎麽不聘德州小骑士? 04/10 19:09
65F:→ AndyMAX : 这国家跟精品无缘 04/10 19:09
66F:推 tio2catalyst: 光想像德州硬汉在做这种细活就觉得不行 04/10 19:10
67F:推 negotiates : 美国人应该缝的超丑 这样要怎麽宰盘子? 04/10 19:10
68F:推 greedypeople: LV那种价位有差吗 04/10 19:11
69F:推 wahaha99 : 可以制造精品啊, 时薪开到两倍应该有机会 04/10 19:12
70F:推 eternal3326 : 德州应该开兵工厂才对吧 04/10 19:13
71F:→ wahaha99 : 然後受雇的员工会拿出1/5的时薪去转包给亚裔偷渡客 04/10 19:13
72F:→ Ekmund : 理论上这些才是机器人可以轻易取代的部分... 04/10 19:13
73F:→ Ekmund : 机械手臂就够了 04/10 19:13
74F:推 bj45566 : 全部的精品品牌也只有爱马仕一家玩得起配货制大家 04/10 19:14
75F:→ bj45566 : 还是争先恐後要抢着买的 04/10 19:14
76F:推 buyerko : 中国A货可能比美国货还真 04/10 19:14
77F:→ LipaCat5566 : 把社会福利都砍光为了生活就会去了 04/10 19:15
78F:→ Iraq : 精品的消费客群品质至上吧 04/10 19:15
79F:推 yangtsur : 谁需要精致品,对吧 04/10 19:16
80F:推 oyaji5566 : 德州佬擅长的是原物料:拿猎枪去猎小牛皮回来 04/10 19:16
81F:推 oneIneed : 比欧洲人更懒技术更烂,这就是美国人 04/10 19:16
82F:推 intointo : 美国人用缝纫机? 04/10 19:19
83F:推 c1951 : 美国员工也懂造假 只是刚好被抓包而已 嘻嘻 04/10 19:19
84F:→ ccs95209 : 意外吗?美国底层劳工本来就很差,不然干嘛把一堆 04/10 19:23
85F:→ ccs95209 : 制造业都丢给黄猴子 04/10 19:23
86F:推 chrischiu : 美积电找一半的台湾员工轮夜班才成功 04/10 19:25
87F:推 darkangel119: 一个月薪水都比我们还高 04/10 19:26
88F:推 james80351 : LV我买都法国制造的欸 04/10 19:34
89F:推 stcr3011 : 这种精品要文化涵养才做得起来吧 04/10 19:34
90F:推 Athanasius : 美国人会玩死自己 04/10 19:36
91F:推 dl123 : 题外话:时薪17月收不到3000.... 04/10 19:37
92F:→ peter98 : 楼上...那个 = = TX州时薪17不算特别低喔...... 04/10 19:42
93F:推 junior020486: https://i.imgur.com/wiZU3Ze.jpeg 04/10 19:42
94F:→ peter98 : 跟台湾一样,南部就是低薪。。。没记错的话TX州平均 04/10 19:42
95F:→ peter98 : 个人所得才约4万镁,比全美平均低2万多。。。。。。 04/10 19:43
96F:推 CYL009 : 学了几年连一个口袋都不会缝?? 笑死 04/10 19:43
97F:→ peter98 : 至於中位数我忘惹,有兴趣自己查 04/10 19:43
98F:推 dl123 : 恩恩 04/10 19:45
99F:→ ytlintexas : 德州佬只会做牛仔靴LOL无法缝手袋包 04/10 19:47
100F:推 s213092921 : 笑死,还不是要靠中国 04/10 19:48
101F:推 AdventurerCC: 精品都嘛炒出来的,是有差喔,每年自己销毁一堆非 04/10 19:50
102F:→ AdventurerCC: 当季品 04/10 19:50
103F:推 marunouchi : LV加价就好了吧 04/10 19:51
104F:推 lovecut : 美国尼哥虾啊 04/10 19:51
105F:推 dbdudsorj : 品质不佳照样卖很贵 厉害 04/10 19:57
106F:推 fruitmonster: 以後做太好的可能反而是A货,有瑕疵的才是真品 04/10 19:59
107F:推 mrniceguy : 美国白人上次坐在生产线上大概是二战时期吧 04/10 20:06
108F:推 bj45566 : LV 在精品食物链的位阶并不高,没那麽好加价卖 04/10 20:06
109F:推 bj45566 : 也是因为如此,法国佬才愿意让一小部分 LV Made in 04/10 20:10
110F:→ bj45566 : USA 04/10 20:10
111F:推 k798976869 : 太懒 04/10 20:14
112F:推 Terminals : LV的品质下降,跟以前不一样了。 04/10 20:14
113F:→ mokumoku : 德州人去烤牛排就好做三小LV包 04/10 20:17
114F:推 hakkacandy : 连lv这种单价的都撑不起来 04/10 20:18
115F:→ wernetizen : 不会AI制造? 04/10 20:19
116F:→ piece1 : LV越来越贵也是事实,因为人工贵? 04/10 20:23
117F:推 bj45566 : 欧洲精品都是会随着时间调高售价,不只 LV 04/10 20:27
118F:→ bj45566 : 因为钱本来就会随着时间越变越薄,哪国货币都一样 04/10 20:28
119F:→ ytlintexas : 题外话德州烤肉还真挺不错的,比较疯狂的店像The 04/10 20:29
120F:→ ytlintexas : Salt Lick这种名店疫情前11am开门2am就得去排队 04/10 20:29
121F:推 bj45566 : 精品食物链位阶越高的品牌,如爱玛仕或香奈儿,调 04/10 20:30
122F:→ bj45566 : 涨的幅度会越高 04/10 20:30
123F:推 mainsa : 法定最低工资有够少 跟台湾差不多欸 那种鬼扯薪水 04/10 20:36
124F:→ mainsa : 在德州可以活吗? 甚至连时薪17镁我都觉得太少 04/10 20:36
德州Minimum wage 7.25USD 各州基本上都是各订各的 但如果没订或是过低就是适用联邦Minimum wage7.25USD 2025各州Minimum wage Washington, D.C. - $17.50 Washington - $16.66 California - $16.00 New York - $15.50(纽约市及部分郡为$16.50) Connecticut - $15.69 New Jersey - $15.49 Massachusetts - $15.00 Colorado - $14.97 Oregon - $14.70(波特兰都会区为$15.95,非城市地区为$13.70) Arizona - $14.70 Maine - $14.65 Illinois - $15.00 Maryland - $15.00 Rhode Island - $15.00 Vermont - $13.86 Hawaii - $14.40 Florida - $13.00(预计9月30日升至$14.00) Missouri - $13.75 Nebraska - $13.50 Nevada - $12.00(若无健康保险则为$12.00,有保险为$11.00) Michigan - $12.48(自2月21日起生效) South Dakota - $11.50 Minnesota - $11.13(大雇主为$11.13,小雇主为$9.00) Arkansas - $11.00 New Mexico - $12.00 Alaska - $11.73 Montana - $10.55 Ohio - $10.45(小型企业适用$7.25) Delaware - $13.25 Virginia - $12.00 West Virginia - $8.75 Idaho - $7.25 Indiana - $7.25 Iowa - $7.25 Kansas - $7.25 Kentucky - $7.25 New Hampshire - $7.25 North Carolina - $7.25 North Dakota - $7.25 Oklahoma - $7.25 Pennsylvania - $7.25 South Carolina - $7.25 Tennessee - $7.25 Texas - $7.25 Utah - $7.25 Wisconsin - $7.25 Alabama - $7.25(无州最低工资,适用联邦标准) Louisiana - $7.25(无州最低工资,适用联邦标准) Mississippi - $7.25(无州最低工资,适用联邦标准) Georgia - $5.15(但实际适用联邦$7.25) Wyoming - $5.15(但实际适用联邦$7.25)
125F:推 banbanzon : 叫监狱重刑犯来做啊 做不好就送去萨尔瓦多 04/10 20:39
126F:推 cchua : 中国专做A货的工说不定都还比较好 04/10 20:40
127F:推 chiamin116 : 难怪东西越来越贵 有太多的瑕疵成本XD 04/10 20:53
128F:推 rltc : 先进国家一样可以拥有技术高超的蓝领,美国就...可 04/10 20:53
129F:→ rltc : 能某方面走歪了 04/10 20:53
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130F:推 waterdeep : 好文,有事实摆在那 04/10 21:00
131F:推 verydolungbe: 教几个星期叫人做高级缝纫?开玩笑的吧? 04/10 21:04
132F:→ k85564 : 买到这颗真的虽 04/10 21:06
133F:→ Heedictator : 过渡期,等机器人 04/10 21:13
134F:→ nanoy : $17没有到超有竞争力 但也不算太低吧 04/10 21:17
135F:推 ffaatt : 美国制造 那不如中国制造200%关税 04/10 21:19
136F:推 leterg : LV在美国做,LV在跟我开玩笑吗?那不如买A货 04/10 21:20
137F:→ leterg : 还要掩盖瑕疵? 04/10 21:21
138F:推 leterg : A货的问题只是它那个金属部件不会退色 04/10 21:23
139F:推 leterg : 美国制的拿去监定会不会被认为是B货啊? 04/10 21:27
140F:推 rosydark : 可以用机器人啊 04/10 21:50
141F:推 leastsquares: 难怪要禁抖音 抖音直播卖得等级比美制还好 04/10 22:00
142F:推 kanehhh : 所以美国普罗大众到底能做什麽? 04/10 22:02
143F:推 highwind66 : 过去制裁日本,制造业 汽车 半导体有回美国吗? 04/10 22:18
144F:→ chingmaki : 德州的人工都是amigo其实不算差了 但是$17/hr还要 04/10 22:18
145F:→ chingmaki : 做细致缝纫不如去快餐店 04/10 22:18
146F:推 Terminals : 美国粗犷民族性就不是擅长细腻精致,各领域都是, 04/10 22:40
147F:→ Terminals : 食物也是很粗糙,要他们做精品根本不是成本问题而 04/10 22:40
148F:→ Terminals : 已,乾脆那麽高人力价格,给日本制造最适合,LV ma 04/10 22:40
149F:→ Terminals : de in jp谁不爱。 04/10 22:40
150F:推 lucien9999 : 看样子LV美国生产的不能买啊 04/10 23:02
151F:→ yunf : 就一个包而已在那里屁 04/10 23:08
152F:推 wowowsakura : 笑死 04/10 23:09
153F:→ yunf : 都喜欢用吹的 有一些模棱两可的比较单位 04/10 23:11
154F:→ yunf : https://tinyurl.com/2bzny9cl 04/10 23:17
155F:→ yunf : 只能说设计感走在前面 工艺没那麽好控制 04/10 23:20
156F:推 bj45566 : 要多井底之蛙才会觉得欧美上流阶层会着迷竞逐 MIJ 04/11 01:06
157F:→ bj45566 : 的「精品」,人家只看得上法国和义大利好吗 wwww w 04/11 01:06
158F:→ bj45566 : www 04/11 01:06
159F:→ bj45566 : 标准的台湾看天下,笑死 04/11 01:07
160F:→ ALENDA : 香奈儿 LV 很多都在葡萄牙、罗马尼亚或是中国人在佛 04/11 01:48
161F:→ ALENDA : 罗伦斯开的作坊里做,根本没多少是法国制的 04/11 01:48
162F:→ ALENDA : 而且LV利润高成那样是不能多花点钱请熟手吗,2~3% 04/11 01:50
163F:→ ALENDA : 制造成本在精品业算很一般吧 04/11 01:50
164F:推 vfgb35 : 亚洲人:打工还是让专业的来好吗? 04/11 11:36







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