http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/20419652888?page=1#0 应该是官方蓝帖 我没买游戏搞不清楚(无误) 强行翻译(瞎掰)一下 (以上废话) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (正文开始) Hey everyone – we’d like to begin by saying that we agree with your feedback that much of last week’s Community Feedback Update was about balance topics that were really up in the air, and that nothing was even close to finalized. We were still in the process of gathering as much feedback as possible, and sometimes updates will be like that. We won’t pretend like we know something clearly when we don’t because the goal of the weekly updates is to be completely honest and transparent. 你们的心声我们都听到惹 上次释出的平衡测试地图显示一切都悬而未决 所以我们想蒐集更多回馈再做平衡改动 This week, we wanted to get your thoughts more quickly on a few topics so we decided to push out the update soon so that we can be ready to do a balance update as early as before the end of this month if necessary. 我们希望在这个月底前做出平衡改动 所以要尽快蒐集大家的意见 Gathering KR Pro Feedback One of the things we’ve been working on more aggressively the past few months is to improve in acquiring more collective Korean pro feedback. We would like to really thank KeSPA, all the Korean pro teams, as well as the Korean players for continuing to work through creating a better process. 过去几个月我们都在蒐集韩国选手的意见 We felt that we’ve made a lot of progress in gathering both community feedback and foreign pro players’ feedback. Getting these more aligned allows us to move together with majority of the players’ support. However, Korean pro feedback is an area that we’ve been attempting to improve for years as there are many differing opinions among players. In addition to this, a mindset we’ve worked to overcome is players asking for changes, and then feeling unheard because those changes were not made. At this point, we’ ve learned how impossible it is to do everything that a top pro player suggests because of how completely different feedback can often be. Even worse, if two top-end pro players say completely opposing things, implementing one of those changes can cause us to lose the other person forever as a source of feedback. 你也知道即使最顶尖的韩国选手也常常意见不一致 如果我们听了其中一派的意见 另一派可能再也不鸟我们惹 (bomber表示… 说好的教士在医疗挺内可以攻击呢???) This is a part of gathering feedback that we definitely wanted to fix, and there have been many ideas going around in terms of how best to do this. We wanted to make you aware that just recently, we just started a new system where KeSPA pings all the pro-players and teams in Korea to consolidate the feedback, and we will be communicating directly with them. This would serve the similar purpose as our weekly updates, forums, and sc2 sites do with you guys. KeSPA协助汇整统合韩职选手的意见给我们 我们会继续努力 逆空高灰 Details from KR Pro Feedback Please keep in mind that pro players’ opinions can change as easily as anyone else’s depending on how their games and the meta changes, so the content here is only what we are hearing as of this week. 韩职选手都善变又口是心非 所以我们讲重点就好 Much of the feedback is similar to what we’ve already been seeing and discussing. Overall, the most surprising feedback we’ve gotten from Korea is that Zerg struggles against Protoss. The least surprising feedback was that the TvP has a general vibe of being the most problematic matchup . 大多数回馈都差不多 但我们很惊讶的是 韩国选手反映ZVP很困难 不意外的是 主流民意都觉得 TVP是最严重的问题 Concerning the Balance Test Map, there seems to be a good alignment on all fronts. The main differences from Korea was a bigger focus on potentially bringing mech play back into TvT, and for ZvZ to get mixed up a bit due to many games being Roach/Ravager only. We’re interested in reflecting these on the next Balance Test Map. 上次平衡测试地图的效果良好(暴雪这不是在自打嘴巴吗) 跟韩国意见的主要差异在於希望未来TVT可以有更多机械化的可能 以及希望ZVZ不要整天蟑火混合一波 Balance Test Map and Balance Patch After considering all the feedback gathered so far, we would like to finalize and implement the changes for the next Balance Test Map as soon as possible so that we can react with a patch as early as sometime this month if necessary. We would definitely like to keep the list of changes to only the most needed ones, so let’s focus our discussions around that this week. With that in mind, let’s get into the specifics and get discussions going quickly so that we can put out a test map as soon as possible. 我们想要赶快做出平衡变动soooooon Balance Test Map: 平衡测试地图 Photon Overcharge We believe this is the most critical change needed as of now because Protoss is having such an easy time defending in the early/mid stages of the game due to how available Overcharge is. With this nerfed, other races’ tools to attack Protoss will be strengthened, meaning things like Adept harass or Warp Prism harass will be weaker as well since Protoss will need to invest more early game resources into defenses. Of course, more changes may be required in the long run, and we definitely want to take nerfs in smaller steps. Many of you brought this up this week as well, and we were happy to confirm once more that we are on a similar page regarding this philosophy. 小光炮： P最大的问题是小光炮太好用 所以前期不怕骚扰 可以各种体位干死对手 根据你们的回馈 我们确信上次平衡地图的改动是对的 小光炮的削弱将使P在前中期必须被动防守 所以教士和菱镜就没空出去搞人 As for the specifics of what to try next, we agree with your feedback in that 50 energy cost was the right move. We also agree that instead of changing up how many shots a unit takes to be killed, we can try tuning up the attack speed so that the DPS is still increased with the energy cost nerf. 所以小光炮就是要改成一炮50魔(原本25) 然後DPS略为增加 Viper Parasitic Bomb We would like to continue testing this nerf. Like we have been discussing together, we don’t think it’s a good thing that the current strength of this ability is preventing certain units from entering play. And even though we are getting some feedback that Zerg is the weakest race right now, we believe that’s mostly in the early/mid stages of the game, so nerfing Parasitic Bomb shouldn’t have a huge impact on Zerg’s overall strength. 飞蛇寄生炸弹： 我们还想继续测试这部分 虽然我们听说Z是现在最弱的种族 但我们还是要削弱Z!!!!!!!!!! (因为Z主要若在前中期 所以削弱後期没差) Adept “-1 Damage to Light” This was a solid suggestion from the community, and because TvP is most likely the biggest issue right now, we would like to try this change. Even though this would mean that Protoss is being double nerfed against Terran (along with the Overcharge nerf), we believe this might be okay as a lot of your feedback suggests that this matchup needs the most help, and we currently agree. We also like the fact that this specific change is a smaller nerf than changing Adept flag to Armored for the reasons you have all brought up. 教士： 对轻甲的攻击力将降低1 因为我们相信教士最大问题在於PVT 即使加上小光炮的削弱等於砍了P两刀 但我们相信P活得下去因为你们都说Pimba 另外我们也相信这个改动比把教士改成重甲好 Spore Crawler +bio Damage There are a couple reasons why we believe strengthening Mutalisks is needed in this matchup. Adding the Ravager in LotV has given a lot more strength to Roach compositions, and adding the Parasitic Bomb ability made Mutalisks even weaker in ZvZ. Therefore, if we were to reduce +bio damage on Spore Crawlers even further and/or remove it, it could be a good move. It would bring Mutalisks to be powerful again in the mid game, and unlike the problem we had previously in HotS, there will be a clear counter to mass Mutalisks in the late game through Viper usage. The best case scenario will see a good mix of a variety of units in the early/mid game, and when Mutalisks are being used, the player massing them will have to transition out of them eventually. 脊刺爬行虫： 对生物的攻击加成要降低 甚至拿掉 因为我们想在ZVZ中期看到更多飞龙对决 反正後期有给你们飞蛇寄生炸弹 General Mech Thoughts This is the area we are most unsure on right now, and we should work towards adding something on this front. If we can get a good solution we will add it along with the other proposed changes above, but if we can’t discover a suitable change in time we won’t wait to test the other changes due to this desire. The reason why we are unsure about Mech is because we can’t quite locate the exact reason Mech struggles. Between the feedback we’ve received so far and our internal conversations, we do have some strong guesses: 1. Like we discussed in a previous update, Siege Tank pick-up in TvT has made Mech lose much of the combat advantage it had against Bio. 2. The Liberator addition in ZvT has made Ravagers a “must have” in many early game situations, making Muta/Ling compositions less common. This dynamic has favored Bio since it is much more mobile versus Ravager shots, and has the added advantage of possessing extremely potent drop harassment (which Roach/Ravager compositions are weaker versus). 人类机械化： 我们也不知道怎麽办 因为我们不知道机械化行不通的确切问题在哪 可能的原因是 1.架坦克能飞导致机械化对生化更弱 2.解放者导致Z必须出火蟑螂 所以龙狗太少出现了 进而导致T用更喜欢用生化空头对付火蟑不良的机动性 If you had thoughts on either of these points or have other reasons as to what the root issue with Mech may be, please let us know. Once we find the root cause, we can start discussing potential solutions in this area. 你们有意见要讲 不讲我怎麽会知道(误) Map Diversity and Balance Now let’s move on to some philosophy as the last topic for this week. One of the main points of discussion within the community this week was how the game can never be balanced if maps are as diverse as they are now. Yet, as many of you already know, our goal for Legacy of the Void is definitely not to have every map be so similar that each matchup has a “main” strategy that’s considered the only viable option at the pro level. We’ve clearly seen that in the past, this is by far the biggest reason that StarCraft 2 can become boring to play and watch. If there is one thing we cleary have to avoid in LotV, it’s making all the maps similar again. At the same time, please also keep in mind that we’re not trying to say that it’s ok if a race wins 80+% times against another race on a specific map or anything drastic like that. While there will definitely be a higher chance to have imbalanced maps as we push map diversity, it is a side effect we are prepared to deal with on a case-by-case basis. We also wanted to point out that slight advantages here and there towards a specific strategy or race in a matchup is definitely okay on a per-map basis. It’s not okay however, if we see the win/loss ratios diverging too much on a per-map basis. Please keep this in mind when discussing and suggesting potential changes to the current map pool. We can definitely make balance changes to maps themselves, and we can definitely also remove maps in the worst case scenarios. We want to be extra careful in treading this line, and not be too quick to judge so that we can continue to push map diversity. In a way, this is a fundamental change in our approach to maps, so we want to avoid overreacting (as we’ve sometimes seen in the past) and talk about specific issues and/or solutions on a per map basis. 地图平衡性： 我们的宗旨是要让地图多样化以避免僵化同样的战术出现 以前就是地图都太相似导致所有人都用主流的同样战术 这样很无趣 当然如果有些地图太imba我们也是会调整或移除 总之我们不想过度反应 For fun… To close out this week’s update, I wanted to share a funny personal story. This has nothing to do with the game's design, so please feel free to skip onto the comments if you wish… I was watching Life playing a Best of 69 series against a completely no name Protoss player who is a mid-Master in NA. Unbelievably, Life was losing 0-10, but was barely winning in the 11th game through really amazing Zergling/Overlord drop usage. I was thinking “WT* is going on?!?! Maybe we need to react much more quickly with a patch than we thought!” …. Then I woke up this morning and was so thankful that it was only a dream. 最後”Bz”想分享一个跟平衡无关的亲身经历 有天我在看常威打来福…阿不是 是来福跟一个没听过的P打BO69 而且那个P只是美服大师中段 不可思议的是 来福竟然连输十场 直到第11场才以完美的空头狗取得胜利 我想说这她妈是怎麽回事 是不是今晚就得立马上patch (Pimba, and Zimba weak) ... ... ... 然後我就醒惹 by暴雪发言人 --

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