作者andy88566y (猫龙)
看板StarCraft
标题[战术] Spanishiwa's No Gas ZvP(下篇)
时间Mon Apr 18 22:46:26 2011
我觉得他对4BG的讲解有点怪
Puser说说看 4妈妈+5地刺真的守得住4BG?
题外话:
居然有人跟我一起翻译...
也是可以拉XD
那我只好........之後发VOD了!
之後=很久很久很久很久以後XD
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A key thing to note: I don't like to spread overlords (except my first
1-3ish) with this until I have, or have started/will start overlord speed,
because there is a scouting blindness where you won't be able to tell if he's
going stargate play or not. If he is, and you have spread out overlords..
chances are you could be set too far behind. It's not really a big deal
anyway, as there's not much the overlords would scout that early in the game
regardless (they can't even poop out creep to deny an expansion).
一个关键:除了头1-3只王虫之外,到我开始提王虫速度为止,我不喜欢把王虫散开。
因为这时候是侦查盲点,你不知道P是否要走VS线。如果他真的下VS而你又把王虫散得
很开....散王虫将冒着落後P非常多的风险。但散王虫与否其实不是什麽重要的事,因
为早期你不需要那麽多王虫去侦查,你送出去的王虫甚至不能拉屎来阻止对方开矿,
何必送出去呢?
Things to watch out for: 1 base DT is pretty eh, but if you wall your ramp
with queens/drones you'll be able to stall for lair tech. It's actually
pretty simple, you just buy time by hold positioning drones and transfusing
queens. A spore at the top of the ramp and maybe one in the main mineral line
is all you need. If he focusses your natural hatchery, you can just throw
down some panic spores and transfuse to save it. If he focusses your queens,
well to be honest they've already pooped out their creep tumors so they've
done their job and are expendable. Just transfuse what you can, and try to
mess up DT ai as you can with drones. It'll be a pretty easy win, because
even if you take heavy losses he's just on one base and he can't really
attack because you have spines (by deductive reasoning: if you thought he was
doing air, you'd have spores and thus DTs would be nullified. Only way DT
would catch you off guard is if you misread DTs as a 3 gate expand or 4 gate,
and in either case you'd have 3 or more spines as previously discussed).
最需要注意的事情
单矿速DT 这真的是!#$#^#%&^*,但如果你用后虫和工虫把斜坡封死,你绝对可以撑到
二本好。对付这个很简单,就是用妈妈输血拖时间,只要在斜坡上方盖一个孢子爬行虫,
有可能需要多盖一个在主矿,如果他集火打你二矿,就把可怜的孢子爬行虫盖在二矿,记
得完成时帮他补血,如果他点你后虫,恩....这只已经放过虫苔了的妈妈已经完成了他的
工作,就让我们为她的死亡敬礼吧
(  ̄□ ̄)/ <( ̄ㄧ ̄ ) <( ̄ㄧ ̄ ) <( ̄ㄧ ̄ )
反正就是妈妈找东西补血,工虫跑给DT追。事实上就算你损失了非常多工虫你还是很容易
取胜,因为他只有一矿但你却有好多地刺跟孢子塔在等他,他没有办法马上进攻的。
动动你的脑袋,就算一开始你以为P要出空军,你会有孢子爬行虫,所以速DT没有用,DT会
杀得你措手不及的原因是把速DT误判为3BG开矿或是4BG前压,这两种情况你都要有3+根
地刺。
Cannon rushes are pretty baller though, just know where he can throw down
cannons (there are some spots, for example on shattered temple there is a
spot near the ramp where if a cannon is being constructed only like 2 drones
can attack it). Although good scouting/control will stop this.
光炮快攻倒是非常有效,Z要知道的就是他会在哪边下光炮(例如:在破碎神庙的斜坡附
近有个点盖光炮的话,直有两只工虫打得到)。好的侦查还有对的反应可以阻止这个。
(译注:怎麽感觉有讲跟没讲一样...?)
3 gate blink stalker is pretty deadly too, in this case you need to treat it
as a 4 gate and put the 2 spines above your ramp as previously discussed. If
you don't, he'll just blink up the ramp (as opposed to walking).
3BG闪现追猎同样非常恐怖,你得像对付4BG一样,多插两根地刺在斜坡上方,否则他会
直接闪现上你斜坡。
(译注:我猜还是得摆一些小狗在斜坡上方防止追猎有高地视野)
Against forge FE openings I like to do a hatchery/evo cancel where his nexus
would go, just to force cannons before nexus. That way you'll retain some
semblance of an economic lead.
若是遇到BF开矿,我会存 300在他二矿盖主堡後再盖下进化室,迫使他必须先盖光炮打掉
进化室後才能盖下星核。这样你可以保持一定程度的经济领先。
(译注:这神奇了! 总花费是 300*25% + 75 + 50
工虫 = 200矿
这样有赚吗? 我也不知道:p)
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1F:推 zelt:自己的经验 Puser看到这麽多地刺会稍微屯个兵在打 04/18 22:47
2F:→ zelt:Z怕挡不住就补一些狗 如果说都4妈妈+5地刺了 加上补血应该ok 04/18 22:48
3F:推 roserule:5地刺真的守不住4BG嘛? 04/18 22:48
4F:→ zelt:如果是极限4bg的话可能就来不及5地刺就是 = = 04/18 22:48
5F:推 imsulabe:有一点兵 3+地刺就不太好打了 04/18 22:49
6F:推 potionx:影片有一段好像一地刺+7妈妈+一些狗挡,不过没注意是几bg 04/18 22:49
7F:推 privatecho:spanishiwa不是也有说 极限rush会把这个战术打趴吗? 04/18 22:49
8F:推 Esca:5地刺第一时间挡的住,但P屯一会兵在Z二本刚好没多久推就爆了 04/18 22:50
9F:→ privatecho:楼上说的是day9第二场在大都会? P只出了狂+哨兵阿@@ 04/18 22:50
10F:→ a654:Z V Z我翻好了,但是感觉他的Z V Z没有写的很好 04/18 22:51
11F:推 Illidan:守的住阿 有4只妈妈可以狂补血 还是怕倒就再补狗 04/18 22:53
12F:推 joeman:地刺应该守得住 但如果你没偷工兵就补 很伤经济 04/18 22:53
13F:推 suyushan:我觉得看到以後 如果有4妈妈+5地刺 马上开始补狗是OK 04/18 22:54
14F:→ Illidan:怕的应该是极限4BG 地刺应该有两三根还没好 04/18 22:54
15F:推 zseineo:他四妈妈,应该有两只妈妈能量很多,一直补血应该OK吧 04/18 22:54
16F:推 tentenlee:看过她妈妈持续生产+小狗地刺挡住过 04/18 22:57
17F:推 Zeroyeu:作者最後常说:"有赚吗?我也不知道~"..... 04/18 22:59
18F:推 cloud0607:极限RUSH应该挡不住 不过看到5地刺真的会心凉一下... 04/18 22:59
19F:推 CrazyLord:其实Z的地刺很强 不要小看囧... 04/18 23:03
20F:推 XVN:地刺股飙涨 04/18 23:15
21F:推 wake01:地刺是z地面第二强单位 仅次於雷兽! 04/18 23:22
22F:推 newgunden:但是地刺有射程 输出比较高! 04/18 23:58
24F:→ danielstar:献丑了 今天下午在尝试的时候守下来了 不过不是极限4bg 04/19 02:55
25F:→ danielstar:靠地刺跟妈妈与少量的狗是守的下来的 04/19 02:55
26F:→ danielstar:不过我还只个嫩嫩白银虫 所以微控跟虫胎没用得很好 04/19 02:56
27F:→ danielstar:或许是对方没空好我才侥幸守下来吧XD 04/19 02:57
28F:推 ohmygod0715:P BF 开矿 我会想直接BH 04/19 16:58
29F:→ ohmygod0715:然後跃传3蟑螂 04/19 16:58
30F:→ ohmygod0715:和后虫 下虫胎 04/19 16:59