作者andy88566y (猫龙)
看板StarCraft
标题[战术] Spanishiwa's No Gas ZvP(上篇)
时间Mon Apr 18 21:53:44 2011
译者废话:
在翻译的同时我也是第一次看
先不管大家喜不喜欢这个开局,觉得他有没有用
我觉得他对Z的很多见解都非常完善
就算你是别的开局 也可以知道很多单位的使用方法
真的是很棒
好拉废话不多说
以下为ZvP!
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The build order 建筑顺序:
9 OL(王虫)
16 Hatchery(二矿)
15 Spawning Pool(狗池)
18 OL(王虫)
@100% Hatchery 1 spine crawler
2 queens (eventually 2 more), and a pair of zerglings for scouting
Drones until 40 (assuming you didn't lose the scouting pair of zerglings)
All 4 geysers on 40, keep droning until you have a total of 44 drones (being
sure to replace lost drones due to building construction/harassment etc)
100 gas, lair (start double evo chambers)
100 gas, ling speed
@100% evo chambers, +1 to melee and carapace
@100% lair, overseer to scout, ventral sacs, overlord speed
baneling nest (about when overlord speed finishes. obviously you might want
to get it sooner if you see he'll be pressuring you in a timing such that you
won't have overlord drop in time to defend)
二矿完成时下一根地刺
同时生产两只妈妈(之後再补两只),还有两条小狗(侦查)
生产工虫直到40人口,下4气矿,补到44只工虫
请确保有补上被骚扰或盖建筑而失去的工虫
100气 二本(同时下两个进化室)
100气 狗速
进化室完成 提近战攻防+1/+1
二本完成 产一只监察王虫来侦查
升级王虫速度 空投
下毒爆虫巢 大约王虫速度好时下 或是你发现他打算持续给你压力
让你在没有空投能力时一直rush你 那你就该早点下
Match up specifics: Scout on 13ish, and steal the protoss guy's second gas!
It really grinds their gears. It can also uh.. like egg on (incite?
instigate?) a 4 gate or other form of all in from him. I think the funniest
one I've seen is the KiWiKaKi 2 immortal+warp prism drop on me. Except that I
don't get roaches.. so it was lol.
对战细节
13人口时出去侦查,并且封气矿!这样做对P来说真的非常烦人。
这可以大大的促使P使用4BG或是其他all-in的战术。
最好笑的一次是有一次当我对上KiWiKaKi,被封气矿後居然出了两台不朽并用传输棱镜
载过来。不过我当时并没有半只蟑螂....所以....颗颗颗颗颗颗颗颗颗颗
Also, if he scouts on 9 and you see him coming up the ramp with your second
overlord (that should be positioned at your natural to scout for cannon
cheese) throw down a gas on 14 to trick your opponent into thinking you're
doing 14/14. Just cancel it and throw down the 16 hatch when the probe is
sufficiently out of position. If he doesn't fall for this, and the map allows
it, you can take the third instead of your natural (maps like metalopolis
cross positions or close positions by air, for example). See: Jemag 5 gate on
my mrbitters ep for an illustration.
再来,如果他在9人口时就出门侦查而且你用第二只王虫看到探测机上斜坡,在14d时放下
一个气矿来欺骗对手你要下狗池,在探测机离开看不到的时候取消并且放下分矿(第二只王
虫应该要放在二矿上方来防止光炮快攻)。如果他没有被骗,在某些地图上你可以把二矿开
在你三矿的位置(例如:大都会、交叉火力
是吗?、或是空中近点),我RP中有这个范例大家
可以参考。
The one spine crawler @100% hatchery is extremely necessary to hold off the
zealot + stalker harass that will inevitably be coming.
分矿好时就得插第一根地刺,用来防止前期必定会到来的1狂1追骚扰。
After that spine is up, it's just scouting from here. If he goes for a 3 gate
sentry expand you will need 2 more spine crawlers (a third, on some maps).
This is also why 4 gate doesn't really work, because if he does a 4 gate and
fools you into thinking it's a 3 gate sentry expand.. well you have spines
anyway. Although, against a shameless 4 gate all in I do like to get about
4-5 spines in my natural as well as 2 spine at the top of my ramp and ~8 slow
lings parked at the top of the ramp.
地刺好之後,要依侦查结果来应对。如果是3BG哨卫开矿你会需要再插两根地刺(有些图要
3根)。4BG其实没有用,因为如果他用3BG哨卫来骗你他要开矿事实上是4BG前压,...你有
三根地刺不是吗?就算是最不要脸的
(译注:作者写的别找我...)我会在斜坡上方
多插两根地刺(共4-5根地刺),再造大约8条狗在斜坡上方等他。
If he's doing a phoenix opener, you'll just need to delay overlord drop tech,
grab a third, and get a spire as well as infestation pit down. Active
scouting will tell you whether or not he's committing to air tech, and if he
is I feel the best response is a double spire with double upgrades going. All
the gas will be going to corrupters/a few infestors, and a small handful of
banelings to clear whatever amount of zealots he has (so that the zerglings
can do their work). Minerals will be going to aggressive expanding as well as
zerglings/drones/static D/whatever.
如果遇到凤凰开局,那就先不要升级空投,下三矿并在下感染虫巢时也下螺旋塔。持续侦
查,如果发现他主打空军,我觉得最好的解法是下两个螺旋塔同时升级空军攻防,把全部
的瓦斯拿去造腐化飞虫和少量感染虫,还有一些毒爆虫和小狗来清地面的狂战士。多余的
晶矿就狂开矿、造小狗、爆工虫...随便啦~
(译注:主打空军的意思是全部空军地面上以狂战士为主,不要误以为混虚空是主打空军
这种打法大比赛不常见,天梯上有机会遇到就是)
In this match up (as in all), overseer is also very viable. If he's going
robo tech, I like to get 4-8 overseers and goop up his robotics while waiting
for drop tech. Then I'll do a massive like infinity-pronged attack on his
main/natural (banelings in drops to mineral lines, and a few in overlords to
complement your zergling army) while expanding. At the very minimum you'll
take out his sentries and you'll have stalled for your spire/infestation pit
(one or the other, or I guess both) to come up, but usually this is a game
ending attack.
监察王虫同样是非常好用,如果他转向VR线,我会在等待空投完成的这段时间内变出4-8个
监察王虫来持续污染他的机械制造厂。然後我会在开矿的同时
不断的对他的主矿跟分矿进
行骚扰(空投毒爆到他的矿区,留一些在王虫中使你的小狗军队更加强大)。
在这个阶段,你至少要做到把他的哨卫数量明显降低直到你的感染巢或是螺旋塔完成(其中
一个,但我猜两个都要盖),不过如果你做得非常好的话,通常到这边就结束了。
So yeah if it doesn't kill him, you've got some nice +2/+2 ling/bling/(either
corrupter/infestor, or both) composition with hive tech on the way. Much like
ZvT, just stall for either ultras or broodlords with infestors/good drop
play, and hopefully you can take the game from there.
The third base timing is usually when you start to switch to unit production,
or when you feel safe. Can't really explain this.
如果这时他还没打下GG,至少你已经完成了精美的地面+2/+2科技,而且拥有狗+毒爆+感染
虫or腐飞(同样的 其中一个或是都有)的二本兵组合。此後,就像ZvT一样,只要等到雷兽
或是寄生王虫出来配合感染虫/空投毒爆的操作,我相信你一定能获胜。
什麽时候开三矿?
通常是你开始爆兵时 或是 你觉得你很安全不会被攻击的时候,这有点难解释就是了。
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1F:推 joeman:加油 04/18 21:54
2F:→ andy88566y:感谢楼上QQ 04/18 21:54
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4F:推 LaLuLa:推推 超有心! 04/18 21:59
5F:推 angelicwing:我们需要更多的z心得文! 04/18 21:59
6F:推 cloud0607:给推! 原来防守P的要点就是 地刺不要省= = 04/18 22:00
7F:→ et310:感觉很像昨日美方大师虫王的打法,不过他连地刺都不补.. 04/18 22:01
8F:推 XVN:ZvP让我最苦手了 笔记笔记 04/18 22:01
9F:推 zerg1112:超棒 04/18 22:03
10F:推 dwn:推 04/18 22:15
11F:→ denix:话说我最近PVZ胜率最低 04/18 22:15
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13F:推 Sechslee:推 04/18 23:58
14F:推 fnaticSEn:不是很实用 但还是泪推了 虫族希望~ 04/18 23:59
15F:推 Mikli:他的打法应该比较适合中阶Z吧 钻石 大师中低分玩家 04/19 00:11
16F:→ Mikli:地刺插多 感觉正面就很亏了 没蟑螂的话还是很难打P正面 04/19 00:11