作者andy88566y (猫龙)
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标题[战术] Spanshiwa's No Gas (虫族战术) 简介
时间Mon Apr 18 16:13:26 2011
这战术太有趣了
是一个新思维 小的不才星海打不好
但英文还不错 翻译看看 让大家来讨论讨论
会跳过一些不重要的
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Spanishiwa's No Gas
A note to readers: I would appreciate it if you would refer to this build as
'The Ice Fisher' or 'The Ice Fisher Build' or I guess Spanishiwa's build or
something would suffice.
给读者的一个提醒:希望大家可以把这个流程叫做
'The Ice Fisher' 'The Ice Fisher Build' Spanishiwa's build
EDIT: Replays are up, request more if you want to see more. Finding pictures
was such a pain though, so I'm gonna be lazy and put that off for awhile. The
replays also show the old 16 hatch/15 pool build order that was advocated in
this thread. I now prefer 13h/15p. The concept is the same, just the timings
are a little different (13h/15p is slightly faster and more economical, so
it's just better overall).
会有RP,如果你想看更多就要求吧。但是照片实在太麻烦了,我很懒的:P
在这一系列中,我旧有的16D孵化所,15D狗池这个开局很棒。
但现在我更喜欢13D孵化所,15狗池。
观念相同
(译注:都是希望经济型开局),只是timing有些微不同
(译注:不容易被挡开二矿)
(13h/15p 稍微快一些且更经济,所以整体来说後者比前者更好)
Verdict is still out on which is better.. 16h 15p or 13h 15p. 13h won't get
blocked as often, but the economic advantage is slightly less than 16h if
you're forced to make early lings. Also experimenting with an 11p 18h build
zvz, to prevent early pool + spine shenanigans.
事实上 16h/15p 和 13h/15p 哪个比较好还没有一个定论。13h通常不会被敌方工兵挡住
裸双,但如果敌方前压导致你必须早期出小狗的话,经济会比16h差。
同时,我也在尝试在 ZvZ 中使用11狗池,18孵化所,是为了防止早期的小狗地刺快攻。
Intro 简介
You might have seen me trying to explain the build on MrBitter's 12 weeks
with the pros, but I felt that I didn't explain it sufficiently enough to be
satisfied. It's a fast expansion style build that opens the same vs all 3
match ups (ZvT, ZvP, ZvZ), with small tweaks to the opener depending on the
match up.
你可能在MrBitter's 12 weeks中就有看过我解释这个开局,但我觉得我解释得不够彻底
这是一个速开矿的风格,且对三族都相同且适用。当然还是会根据每场比赛不同来做些微
变化。
The build revolves around a few key ideas:
1: that in the early game larva is extremely important, and having to produce
units from that limited larva (instead of drones) is very disadvantageous to
you.
2: that by delaying your gas you're able to drone extremely quickly. This is
because your income won't be split between gas/mineral income (it will be all
mineral), and thus you're able to get drones quicker than you'd normally be
able to.
3: that creep spread increases the effectiveness of Zerg by a LOT. To the
point where it is extremely worth it to spend in-game resources to expedite
the process of spreading creep.
4: that mid and late game Zerg is very strong (compared to early game Zerg).
5: that over saturating is terrible (like, terrible terrible).
整个流程环绕着以下这几个核心概念:
1.在游戏的初期幼虫是非常重要的,而用这些极为有限的幼虫来生产不是工虫的单位对
虫族来说非常不利。
2.慢瓦斯让你可以爆工虫爆得非常得快,因为你不会因为瓦斯而分散的你晶矿的收入,
所以你会更快得到比一般更多的工虫
3.
虫苔的扩展与否对虫族来说影响非常
巨大,所以使用你游戏中可以使用的资源来加速
虫苔的铺建变得非常重要。
4.对虫族来说,中後期的虫族比起前期的虫族要强大得多太多了
5.让矿区有超过满载的工虫数量是
非常非常非常不好的事情
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※ 编辑: andy88566y 来自: 114.36.65.50 (04/18 16:14)
1F:推 CrazyLord:第5个可能是说 尽量避免矿区超过满运载?? 04/18 16:15
2F:→ pttjizz:不知道是矿区超载还是人口超载 04/18 16:16
3F:推 foreshadow:第五点是说一个矿区超营运是很糟糕的事情 04/18 16:17
4F:推 zelt:矿区过饱和 04/18 16:17
5F:推 Cairne:第5点是矿区满载 白话点就是太多工兵挖矿 04/18 16:17
6F:→ foreshadow:over saturating是只有矿或瓦斯超过三只农民 04/18 16:18
7F:推 a81359:有办法达到人口载吗XD? 04/18 16:18
8F:→ andy88566y:OK我懂了 感谢 04/18 16:20
※ 编辑: andy88566y 来自: 114.36.65.50 (04/18 16:21)
9F:推 LeafE:推 非常非常非常可怕的事情 XDDDDDDDD 翻译乙 04/18 16:26
10F:推 potionx:比如可以让两只毒暴近矿区炸一堆还是满运作的情形? 04/18 16:30
11F:推 huggie:terrible terrible 不是非常非常可怕..是可怕的那种可怕 04/18 16:44
12F:→ huggie:因为terrible可能有好的意思跟坏的意思 04/18 16:45
13F:→ huggie:他的意思是..不好 04/18 16:45
14F:→ andy88566y:喔对吼 04/18 16:46
※ 编辑: andy88566y 来自: 114.36.65.50 (04/18 16:46)
15F:推 huggie:让矿区有超过满载的工虫数量是terrible的 (是terrible的 04/18 16:50
16F:→ huggie:那种terrible) (就是是很糟糕的那种糟糕) 04/18 16:50
17F:推 jumping123:感谢英翻中~ 04/18 17:05
18F:推 juino:"非常非常可怕" 比较有那种经济压力下的感觉 04/18 17:17
19F:推 zseineo:推 04/18 17:25
20F:推 Sechslee:好文 不M吗? 04/18 17:58
21F:推 rsiixbn:推 战术文 04/18 19:37