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标题[外絮] Bertans也许会是马刺放弃Lee的原因
时间Sat Sep 23 00:30:55 2017
在SBNation看到一篇文章,
提到Bertans跟David Lee,粗浅翻译一下给大家指教讨论:
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Davis Bertans may have made David Lee expendable
by Dan Schultz @ SBNATION
原文网址:
https://goo.gl/UXatpC
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Six years ago on the night of the 2011 NBA Draft, when the San Antonio Spurs
shockingly agreed to trade coach Gregg Popovich’s “favorite player,” point
guard George Hill, to the Indiana Pacers in exchange for the rights to Kawhi
Leonard — they also received the rights to a little-known European player
named Davis Bertans.
距离2011年NBA选秀已经六年了,在那个晚上马刺做了一个令人惊奇的行动:
将Popo的爱将George Hill 交易到溜马,换回第15顺位选秀权并选了Kawhi。
同时,他们也得到了当年第42顺位,并选择了不知名的欧洲球员Davis Bertans。
At the time, Leonard was considered a solid prospect who might one day be as
good or perhaps slightly better than Hill, while Bertans was considered a
low-risk throw-in who might not ever make an NBA roster.
Throw in two devastating right knee injuries in 2013 and 2015,
and Bertans' chances of coming to the NBA at times appeared very uncertain.
在那时Kawhi被认为可以成长为一个跟Hill同等级,甚至更好的球员,
而Bertans只被当作一个低风险低报酬的投资,甚至可能根本不会出现在NBA的舞台。
之後当Bertans在2013及2015年经历了两次右膝毁灭性的伤势,
他来到NBA的机会显得更加渺茫。
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Fast forward to 2017. Leonard has become one of the top players in the league
while Bertans surpassed expectations during his rookie campaign last season —
playing 67 games and starting in six of them. He averaged 4.5 points per
game on 44 percent shooting from the field and recorded a 40 percent mark
from behind the arc.
While those numbers might not immediately jump out at you, he only played
12.5 minutes a game and did a fine job making the most of his limited time on
the floor.
快转到2017年,Kawhi已经成为了联盟顶尖的球员,
Bertans,也超越了过去我们对他的期望:
登上NBA的舞台并在新人年出赛67场(其中6场先发),
平均4.5分,拥有44%的命中率且三分命中率达40%。
这些数据可能并不会让球迷们觉得很棒,但要知道,
这是Bertans在平均12.5分钟内缴出的数据,
他在有限的上场时间内兢兢业业的完成他的工作。
Pop noted how impressed he was with Bertans, saying “His confidence and the
way he comes into a game — he might come in at the end of the game, he might
come in the middle and not expect to be playing — and he doesn't miss a
beat. He comes in and plays like he's been playing all night, so that's kind
of cool.” Very cool, indeed.
Popo 也表示了他对Bertans表现的赞许:
"自信及他上场时的心态 - 他可能只上垃圾时间,也可能作为轮换,甚至根本不会出场-
不管怎样他总是保持节奏,就是上场比赛,以他一贯的水准工作,这很酷。"
When Bertans came over last year, it made the decision to part ways with Matt
Bonner easier. At 6-foot-9, Bertans is essentially a younger, quicker and
more athletic version of Bonner. And just like Bertans took over Bonner’s
role last year — playing sparingly off the bench and being a reliable
stretch four — it’s fair to say that his capable play last season was a
factor in the Spurs deciding not to bring back the older and more limited
David Lee this season.
人们很容易从Bertans去年的表现联想到Matt Bonner,
拥有6"9'的身高,Bertans无疑是一个更年轻、更敏捷、更有运动能力的三明治猎人。
而当Bertans完成了Bonner以前的工作 - 从板凳出发,当一个可靠的延伸4号位 -
对於马刺队来说,Bertans的好表现会是他们不签回老化後的David Lee的原因。
The choice not to bring Lee back seems like it could have been a difficult
one, being that he played played hard, knew his his role, was loved by his
teammates and seemed a perfect fit for the team’s culture. Unfortunately for
Lee, he’s never been an outside shooter, and that’s something players on
this year’s Spurs team need to do. Throw in his lack of speed, his age (34)
and a tough knee injury to end last season, and it made perfect sense why the
Spurs wanted to move on and give Bertans a bigger role.
Lee勤奋的工作态度、对於自身角色的体认、与队友紧密的关系,
都是马刺队难以放弃他的原因,特别是他与"马刺文化"相当契合。
但当我们看到马刺在今年的补强以外线投射为主要考量时,
Lee的内线技术明显得不符合需求。年迈且缺乏速度,加上去年季後赛的膝伤,
马刺选择与Lee分道扬镳并把他的上场时间给予Bertans显得非常合理。
Lee had the chance to come back to the Spurs too, but he turned down his
player option for this season. Because the Spurs weren’t left with a ton of
cap wiggle room once they signed Rudy Gay and took care of Pau Gasol, Manu
Ginobili and Patty Mills, this proved to be the final nail in the coffin for
Lee. Bertans, meanwhile, is still on a rookie contract.
球季结束後Lee有球员选项可以自己决定是否续留马刺,但他选择跳出。
而马刺在招募到Gay,续留Gasol、Manu、Mills後已经没有多余的薪资空间,
这让Lee的留队可能性几乎归零,Bertans,则还在领他第二年菜鸟的薪水。
It’s clear that Bertans already has the trust and support of PATFO as well
as his teammates, important for any young player. His confidence in his
shooting, combined with the perseverance he showed battling back from two
tough injuries, has helped mold him into the player he’s become. The scary
part? He's only 24 years old.
Bertans will have to play with the same assured attitude he had last season.
It’s fair to expect some sophomore bumps along the way as he grows into a
larger role and more minutes. But his precise sniping from deep, combined
with deceptive athleticism, makes him tailor-made for the prototype teams
want their power forwards to conform to in today’s NBA.
很明显Bertans已经得到了管理层以及队友的信任,这对年轻球员来说非常重要。
他投射的信心,加上战胜膝伤展现出的毅力,使他能成长为他现在的模样。
重点是,他才24岁。
Bertans必需在新球季展现出跟上一季一样的态度,
可以预期他会在二年级遭遇一些困难,当他拿到更多上场时间後更是如此。
不过他精准的远投、以及与外表不符的运动能力,
使他完美的符合现在NBA球队对4号位球员的要求。
You can bet Pop is going to use him a lot more this season, and here’s
hoping he seizes this opportunity by the throat and becomes yet another name
in the long list of “draft-day steals” for the Silver and Black.
我们可以打赌Popo会在新球季更多地使用Bertans,并期待Bertans能紧紧抓住这个机会。
或许以後人们提到银黑军团的选秀时,他会成为另一位 "选秀会的大偷"。
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心得:
出赛6场,场均23.7分钟,平均得分14(投射三围 50.9%,44.7%,90%)
外带3篮板2助攻,这是Bertans在刚结束的欧锦赛缴出的成绩单。
对比七六人潜力新秀 Dario Saric,
出赛6场,场均32.4分钟,平均得分14.8 (投射三围 38.9%,26.3%,82.4%)
外带6.7篮板,2.5助攻。
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虽然我认为Lauvergne才是Lee的替代,
不过新球季的Bertans也是相当有看头。
希望能加强身体,在投射及空手切入维持水准,
并在内外线防守有更好的表现。
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※ 编辑: dweabybnye (180.217.177.245), 09/23/2017 00:31:40
※ 编辑: dweabybnye (180.217.177.245), 09/23/2017 00:51:53
1F:推 skies123: Bertans跟Lee完全不同类型 现在马刺真的很缺Lee这种活力 09/23 01:34
2F:推 alex40214: 现在替补3/4号位有Gay, KA, Bertans.可能还是分不出什 09/23 02:08
3F:→ alex40214: 麽上场时间给bertans 09/23 02:08
4F:推 tlw0709: 先不说他好不好 但他要有时间只有PF 但不看好他顶得住 09/23 02:26
5F:推 leo755269: ok啦 马刺需要更多三分炮台 09/23 02:52
6F:推 seeyou24: 有投射也小有弹跳力,期盼能吃下替补的15分钟~~ 09/23 02:59
7F:推 TodaySuckMei: 15分钟啊 ... 09/23 03:05
8F:推 seeyou24: 去年KD、Gasol、AGG合力吃下90分钟,Lee和Dedmon约36分 09/23 03:17
9F:→ seeyou24: 那36分换成Lauvergne和Gay吃下的话,锋线就剩下20分钟 09/23 03:19
10F:→ seeyou24: 这时间就靠KA和Bertans两个人去分了~~ 09/23 03:20
11F:推 Sanjis: 到目前的补强状态,感觉有点想回到14年的打法,Kawhi去年 09/23 05:27
12F:→ Sanjis: 後段感觉有刻意练组织。可打快打慢的变化节奏,不知道版 09/23 05:27
13F:→ Sanjis: 上大大们有没有什麽想法? 09/23 05:27
14F:推 SmallLong: 想回14年才更该留lee... 09/23 06:21
15F:推 leo755269: Lee有点像Diaw 但没Diaw这种等级的应该没得玩 09/23 07:17
16F:推 b03o20y: Lee跟本没三分,怎麽会像Diaw,Diaw也不像Lee那麽多拚 09/23 10:23
17F:→ KawhiHao: 我觉得Lee比较像防守稍差的Splitter 09/23 10:36
18F:→ KawhiHao: 但从定位来看好像比较像Baynes 09/23 10:39
19F:推 ando: 继续练可爱 继续找更好的帮手 然後两老安心退休 09/23 11:17
20F:→ leo755269: Diaw的三分只是附加价值 他真正的价值在传导 李有些P&R 09/23 11:24
21F:→ leo755269: 後的二度分球蛮有看头的 但还是不能跟Diaw比就是惹 09/23 11:25
22F:→ leo755269: 李跟剔牙真的蛮像的XDD 传球都不错 防守较差finish较优 09/23 11:27
23F:→ TodaySuckMei: TP9跟manu要安心退休的话 现在就够安心了 09/23 12:06
24F:→ TodaySuckMei: 卡外已经是联盟首屈一指的球星了 09/23 12:06
25F:推 YenLiKuo: 楼上你安心上路 09/23 13:30
26F:推 hydeless: 口外处理挡拆跟两老比还有很多路要走 09/23 13:52
27F:→ hydeless: Tiago防守不会较差,Finish也不会较优 09/23 13:53
28F:→ dweabybnye: 版友应该是说lee的防守较差但是finish较好? 09/23 18:06
29F:→ dweabybnye: 但如果不签人,假设大个三人有伤病加上轮休,该不会 09/23 18:10
30F:→ dweabybnye: 要摆出joff+gay+ka+bertans的轮替吧 09/23 18:10
31F:→ dweabybnye: 这如果遇到一只会禁区磨的(ex: monroe),很可怕啊 09/23 18:12
32F:推 b03o20y: Diaw的传导多样性部分归功於三分有威胁 09/23 23:08
33F:→ b03o20y: Lee没有三分能力注定无法像Diaw站外线当传导中继站那麽 09/23 23:09
34F:→ b03o20y: 有威胁 09/23 23:09
35F:推 b03o20y: 我也觉得比较像防守稍差,放篮稍好不奶油手的Tiago 09/23 23:13
36F:推 Aretimis7345: 瓜去雷霆了 明年雷霆的进攻变得有点可怕 09/24 01:27
37F:推 chenliu0716: 西区军备相比之下...真的别耽误卡的精华时光啊 09/24 02:23
38F:推 seeyou24: 墙太高了且明年是自由市场大年,军备竞赛会再重演一次 09/24 03:22
39F:推 zlzooq: 西区大乱斗...... 09/24 03:25
40F:推 seeyou24: 乱世也有乱世的处世之道,比KL年少的那群可以好好练练 09/24 03:31
41F:→ seeyou24: 不过练不出来就要掉队了,希望有人可以跟得上啊!! 09/24 03:32
42F:推 hydeless: 其实四五种子是最危险的位置,目前看起来..... 09/24 08:48
43F:推 hydeless: 隔壁清烂约加收肥瓜,我们花大钱签姊姊,此消彼长。 09/24 09:06
44F:推 blackdevil: 真的是没别的地方可以花钱一样…… 09/24 09:17
45F:推 JoseReyes: 最好让雷霆或火箭拿第四名第二轮打勇士lol 09/24 11:55
46F:推 hydeless: 结果我们一轮游这样吗? XD 09/24 13:19
47F:推 JoseReyes: 真是这样也只能认了lol 09/24 14:06
48F:推 alankira: 今年暑假过後,西区又更难打了 09/24 15:44
49F:推 materu: 雷霆等於拿ola跟阿坎换到大乔跟甜瓜.... 09/24 16:34
50F:→ dweabybnye: 换个角度想,敌人越强我们这边也有更好的练功机会 09/24 16:47
51F:→ KawhiHao: 应该要再加一个小沙 09/24 16:59
52F:推 MickeyKG: 花大钱签姐姐我真的看不到 09/24 17:09
53F:→ leo755269: 我觉得不一定好练 虽然对抗强度升高但也代表需要花更多 09/24 18:34
54F:→ leo755269: 精力抢优势种子顺序 搞不好调度变得比较保守 但希望KA, 09/24 18:34
55F:→ leo755269: Murray上场时间能更多一点 09/24 18:35
56F:→ pagenotfound: 在大时代大抱团的年代,球星数据被稀释 09/24 22:40
57F:→ pagenotfound: 明年不就是可爱抢MVP的好时机吗? 09/24 22:41
58F:推 hyakkiyagyo: 某个总版来的低俗小丑都不会人格分裂喔 09/24 22:51
59F:→ lonesomeyu: 西区真的是军备竞赛了 09/25 00:17
60F:推 materu: pop不会让可爱打太久 09/25 01:40
61F:→ aaagun: 雷霆薪资上升12.4M,然後要缴24.8M的豪华税喔 09/25 14:23
62F:推 dogville: 拿Bertans比Lee有点不伦不类 功能完全不一样呀 09/25 14:44
63F:推 sssss787: 大家太客气了 今年就是练功年吧 10/03 02:09