http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/25/gregg-popovich-discusses-three-point-shot-changing-roles-for-bigs-in-nba/ http://goo.gl/zrnPkM Gregg Popovich discusses three-point shot, changing roles for bigs in NBA It’s changed. Charles Barkley may not want to hear it, but the NBA has changed. Call it small ball, call them “jump shooting teams,” or define it how you want, the three-pointer has become a cornerstone part of a modern NBA offense. It’s an evolution, an adaptation in part due to changes in the game’s rules and how they’re enforced. 改变了。就算巴爵士再怎麽不喜欢，NBA已经改变了。你可以称它为小球，称他们是 跳投大队，或是找个新词，三分球已成为当代联盟进攻的基石。 这是种为适应规则的改变而生的演化。 There’s no better example of that evolution than Gregg Popovich and the Spurs. When he and the Spurs won their first title in 1999, it was about getting the ball inside to Tim Duncan and David Robinson,. Those Spurs attempted 10.4 threes per game and hit just 33 percent of them. The 2014 title Spurs, on the other hand, attempted 21.4 threes per game and hit 39.7 percent of them. Duncan was still there, still the keystone to the arch, but the roster was loaded with guys like Danny Green and Marco Belinelli, who were there to knock down the three ball specifically (and Tony Parker, who is there to penetrate then kick out to those shooters). Gregg Popovich 和马刺队是这个改变的最佳范例。当1999年马刺赢得总冠军时，打法 差不多就是把球塞给内线的 Tim Duncan 和 David Robinson。这时的马刺每场只有 投10.4次三分球，命中率是33%。在2014年夺冠时变成投21.4次三分球，命中率39.7%。 Duncan还在，仍然是球队的灵魂人物，但他的队友换成像 Danny Green 或 Marco Belinelli，他们在场上的主要任务是投三分；还有 Tony Parker，他的任务是 切进去然後把球传出来让他们投三分。 Popovich did a rare 25-minute interview with former NBA player Tom Tolbert of KNBR, and Pop talked openly about the evolution of the game (hat tip to Uproxx for the transcription). “You pay the price if you don’t make threes, and you pay the price if you don’t get those threes off. One way that big guys are gonna still be valuable is if you have a big guy that demands a double-team. If you have a big guy that you don’t have to double-team? You’re in trouble. But if you got a big guy, he better be somebody who is good enough that he commands a double so it can get kicked, and moved, and you can penetrate or pitch for the threes. Pop 接受了一个少见的25分钟长的，由前NBA球员 Tom Tolbert 所做的访谈。 他公开谈论了球赛的改变。 "如果投不进那些三分，你要付出代价；如果不做那些出手，你也要付出代价。 长人在现在要有价值必须能够吸引包夹。如果你有个长人但对手没必要包夹他， 那你就有麻烦了；反之如果你有个够强的长人能吸引包夹，那球就可以传出来、 转移，接着就有机会渗透禁区或是投三分。" [The three-pointer] is so much more valuable than a two-pointer that you can’t ignore it. So, you try to have a balance between penetrating and [jump-shooting]. But when you penetrate you always think about kicking it to that uncontested three-point guy. So, what we’re doin’ now isn’t gonna change a whole lot across the league because of that three-point line.” "三分球比两分球有价值太多，你无法忽视它。你要在攻击禁区和跳投之间找个平衡， 然而当你往里面打时，要想着把球传出来给外面投大空档三分。 所以，现在席卷整个联盟的潮流并不只是那条三分线而已。" It took a few things for the three pointer to become this much more valuable in the NBA. The first part was to have more guys who could make the shot — when it was introduced in 1979 guys in the NBA had grown up getting yelled at by their coaches if they shot from that far away from the basket. Why reduce the odds of making the bucket when it counted the same as a shot that was closer? Today’s NBA is full of guys who grew up knowing that shot had value in an extra point if they could hit it, so they grew up practicing it and with coaches who encouraged it. 要让这些三分球这麽有价值需要一些要素。首先需要能投进的球员 -- 在1979年 NBA引进三分线时，当时的球员的成长背景是离篮框太远投篮就会被教练骂； 同样是得两分，当然离篮框越近出手越好。现在球员的成长背景是从小就在练三分， 并且有鼓励他们这样做的教练。 Then the NBA adapted their defensive rules to allow a zone to be played (although with a defensive three-second rule, unlike other levels of basketball). This reduced the advantage of just throwing the ball into the post to a big man because the double team could already be on him, not having to come at him from an angle he could see. Out of that grew the Tom Thibodeau overload (or whatever term you wish to use) defense, which put an extra defender on the strong side with the ball (usually a big man on the edge of the block), reducing the advantage of isolation basketball players on the wings because their path to the basket was clogged. One of the key counters to that is to quickly move the ball from strong to weak before the defense could react (or drive and draw the defense, and then kick out to the weak side), and if you could get the ball to the weakside and to a three point shooter, you had an extra point coming. (Another counter to the classic Thibodeau style defense is to attack from the top rather than the wings, think Golden State Warriors.) 加上现在联盟的防守规则允许区域防守(尽管还是有防守三秒)，这让长人打低位的 优势降低，因为包夹可以从他看不见的角度过来。Tom Thibodeau 的 overload 防守 就是运用这点，在强边多放一个防守者(通常是长人)，降低了两翼的单打球员的优势， 因为他们往篮框的路线会被挡住。应对此一防守策略的方法之一是把球快速地从强边 转移到弱边，在防守球员来得及反应之前(或是切入吸引防守球员後把球传出给弱边)。 如果你能把球送到弱边的三分射手，那麽还有机会多拿一分。 另一个应对方法是改由弧顶发动而不是两翼，对照金州勇士的打法。 Phil Jackson isn’t wrong in the sense that teams need to have penetration still to make and offense work, that things need to flow inside out to get good looks at threes. It’s just how you need to get those has evolved; you can’t just throw the rock into Shaq in the post and think he’ll be single-covered by Vlade Divac anymore. It’s an evolution (if you think it’s better or worse, that’s a value judgment you put on it, nothing more). Phil Jackson 并没错，球队还是需要能攻击禁区的球员活络进攻，要在外面有 好的三分出手仍需要内外转移。只是做法已经改变了，现在已经不能单纯把球丢给 在低位的 Shaq 然後以为只有 Divac 会来守他。这是种演化--要称其为进化或退化 是个人的评断自由。 And nobody has evolved like Gregg Popovich. 而没有人比 Gregg Popovich 演进得更多。 -- Sent from my Android #18 --

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