※ [本文转录自 Tennis 看板 #1C7Qziai ] 作者: VWilliams (VStarr) 看板: Tennis 标题: Lucic & Majoli的故事 时间: Sun Jun 20 14:04:26 2010 Lucic算是90年代末期跟Hingis.大小威齐名的新秀 年纪甚至比上面三个人都还要年轻 但是他在职业网坛大放异彩的时间却短得很惊人 1997年窜起之後 1998拿到澳网女双冠军 1999年在温网打出代表作进四强激战败给七届冠军Graf 但在温网後状态迅速的下滑 从1999下半年到2000结束战绩是惨澹的8-18 这几年一直在跟家庭问题还有伤病斗争 今年温网才好不容易重回大满贯会内赛的签表 而Majoli则是1997年拿下了法网 随後因伤好几年都起起伏伏 1998之後也没能再闯过大满贯第三轮 到2004年才宣布正式退休 两个人都是克罗埃西亚的选手 被遗忘很久了 最近在TF才又出现一篇关於他们家庭教育.训练的文章 翻来给大家看看 Mirjana Lucic and Iva Majoli couldn't take a pressure from their fathers but this story goes into 2 different directions; 2 different life destiny. Very interesting story... Mirjana Lucic跟Iva Majoli都承担不了来自他们父亲的压力 但他们的故事却往两个不同的方向走 不同的宿命 非常有趣的故事 Stanko Majoli and Marinko Lucic created a "family project" term that is not so popular here in Croatia. They are the one who putted all credits for vibrant sports results and careers of their daughters Iva and Mirjana. Although the precise work out sports plans of Majoli's and Lucic's fathers is provided by either to become the world's mega stars, there are significant differences in the basis of their lives and sports ways very match. Stanko Majoli与Marinko Lucic开始了一个在克罗埃西亚并不常见的"家庭计画" 他们是Iva和Mirjana这些成绩的幕後推动者 虽然他们之前的计画都是推动女儿朝向世界体育巨星之路迈进 但他们的生活和运动模式却有明显的差异 Iva Majoli and Mirjana Lucic exclusive products of the sacrifices of their families, which are all things that have invested in sports development of their daughters, but their sporting life and destiny are very different. While their daughters were very young Stanko Majoli and Marinko Lucic were sure that their daughters will become the top athletes. Stanko Majoli and Marinko Lucic, who have never engaged in sports, target their children towards tennis, mostly due to the large money that is turning this attractive and "fancy" sport. After all, neither one of them did not hide that the main motive was the engagement of their earnings. Iva和Mirjana都是生来就为家庭牺牲的 他们注定献身於运动当中 但他们的职业生涯跟命运却很不同 当他们的女儿还很年轻的时候 两位爸爸很确定自己的女儿将会成为顶尖运动员 他们虽然对运动并无所知 但目标却一直瞄准网球 也从未掩饰过最大的动力是网球的奖金收入 Precisely the huge financial investments of Stanko Majoli and Marinko Lucica was crucial for the successful start of the sports career of Iva and Mirjana: they had to invest a lot of money to pay coaches and sparing partners, bought set of equipment, travel costs etc. Without these huge investments, chance of their parents, that the funds very quickly started to return to a vastly larger quantities of "investments" would never start. It was, after all, very quick good return "investment": Stanko Majoli and Marinko Lucic signed the first professional contracts for their daughters when they were only 12 years old. 刚开始巨大的金钱投资对於Iva和Mirjana的职业生涯是关键的 他们花了很多钱在请教练以及搭档.球具配备.旅行支出等等 如果没有一开始的投资 也不会有接下来更大量的赞助 他们发现报酬来得很快 他们在女儿还只有十二岁的时候就签下了职业合约 Stanko Majoli and Marinko Lucic never were engaged in sports, before the birth of their children; had no racket in their hands, even now they do not know to play tennis. Did not finish either tennis school for coaching, are not guided by some old sports battles as some other parents, they were coaching their children in terms of reaching the money and glory. 在他们的女儿出生之前 两个爸爸从来没有投身体育 甚至也完全不懂网球 没有经过当教练所需要的训练 他们所知道的只是用钱还有荣誉教导他们的女儿 Majoli and Lucic left regular education at the age of 12, spent hours and hours per day to carry out training, spent weeks and months on trips and competitions while their friends were playing around in local parks, were going to school and hang around with their school-mates. They were separated from mothers, the rest of the family and peers, surrounded only by fathers, sparing partners and coaches. Iva lived in Florida with her father and brother, while Lucic was exclusively in the company of sparing partner and father. They have not had time to socialize with other children, to enjoy, go to disco clubs, boyfriends, friends... 两个女孩在12岁就离开了普通的教育体系 当他们的朋友还在公园玩耍.相约出游的时候 他们花了无数的时间在训练.旅行.竞争上 他们被迫跟妈妈以及其他家人分开 身边只有爸爸.练球搭档以及教练 Iva跟爸爸还有哥哥住在佛州 Lucic则和搭档.爸爸一起住 他们没有时间跟其他孩子交际 也没能享受很多该有的乐趣 Stanko Majoli and Marinko Lucic admitted that they were "strict" in terms of training and sports life in general: Iva and Mirjana trained MUCH more comparing to their friends also athletes. Fathers were "taking out" their maximum, exhausted their organisms and body to end border. 两位爸爸都承认他们对於训练很严厉 Iva和Mirjana的训练比其他运动员都要多很多 他们希望女儿的训练强度达到最大值 After few years of common life and training, when without any suspicion and resistance fulfill all parental wishes, with Mirjana and Iva come first saturation, then the first dispute with fathers, who are in the case of Mirjana Lucic turned into physical fight and the dissolution of the family. At the family Lucic fracture occurred very early: Mirjana was 16, while Iva resisted only until she was 20. Precisely their cases show how the complex is relationship of young talented players and their fathers. 在经过几年充满期待.不容质疑训练生活之後 两位女孩所承受的都已经达到饱和 接下来开始第一次的争执 而争执在Lucic的家庭演变成肢体冲突以及家庭的崩坏 Lucic家的裂痕出现得很早 在Mirjana十六岁就已经开始 而Majoli家的则到了Iva二十岁才开始 他们的case也展现了年轻选手们与父亲的关系有多复杂 Mirjana couldn't handle anymore father's tyranny so she ran away. It was the middle of 1999. the biggest sports scandal in Croatia. Although she had great conditions for training, secured a guaranteed existence and peace, conflict with the father left an indelible trace. Mirjana felt ba big fear, for some time she had her personal bodyguards and she couldn't imagine her life without them while she was walking outside the tennis court. Mirjana无法在忍受父亲的严苛 因此在1999年年中选择逃家 这是克罗埃西亚体育史上的最大丑闻 虽然他有很好的训练条件 但与父亲的冲突却是难以抹去的伤痕 Mirjana身线巨大的恐惧中 有时他甚至必须雇请私人保镳 他无法想像如果没有保镳 他在球场外怎麽生活 Between Iva Majoli and her father story is different, not physical fight, because her father, as soon as he felt that the saturation occurs, quietly withdrawn and Iva started to work with her brother Dado. After Iva Majoli won tournament at Rolland Garros which was the crown of her sports career, she was not ready for more victims: started to entertain and realized that tennis is not everything in her life. 而Majoli父女间的故事却完全不同 他们没有肢体冲突 因为Majoli爸爸很快的查觉了女儿已经达到饱和 他选择离开 让Iva开始与哥哥一起继续工作 但在1997年Iva拿下法网之後 他并不想准备作更多牺牲 他开始察觉网球不是他生命中的唯一 Iva's dad was very disappointed about this and in one of his interview in 1998 he said, "Iva could be the best in the world, but, unfortunately, does not work enough. Player who wants to be first in the world must train at least four hours a day, and she trained up to two hours. Thats not enough to be a top athlete. My daughter loves successes, she is a sort of person who enjoys popularity and the glory, and she can't live without that. Those kind of people keep saying that had enough of paparazzi and journalists but actually can't live without them. It is obvious that Iva and I had enough of working together, I can't change or help her or try to change her lifestyle, or even to "push" her to do something which obviously provokes resistance in Iva. so I've decided to let other people to work with Iva" said Stanko Majoli Majoli爸爸非常失望 在他1998年的访问中说到: "Iva可以成为世界上最好的选手 但可惜他的努力不够 如果想当第一 你必须至少每天训练四小时 但他最多只练两小时 对於顶尖运动员而言并不够 我的女儿爱好胜利 他是那种享受人气和荣誉的人 他无法离开掌声 像这样的人 他们虽然口口声声说受不了狗仔和记者们 但其实却离不开他们 但很明显的Iva跟我的合作已经够了 我再也没办法改变或帮助他继续尝试 也无法改变他的生活方式 或甚至强迫他去做什麽 所以我决定让其他人陪他继续努力" im your biggest fan ill follow you until you love me, papa paparazzi. baby theres no other superstar you know that ill be your papa paparazzi It is obvious that Stanko Majoli was personally disappointed, but his reaction was reasonable and tolerant attitude and thanks to this he has saved a relationship with his daughter. On examples of Iva Majoli and Mirjana Lucic thesis "that burns fathers, coaches, the better athlete daughters." doesn't stand 明显的 Majoli爸爸很失望 但他的反应却很合理 由於这样的态度让他挽回了跟女儿的关系 明显的在Majoli和Lucic的案例上 "越严厉的爸爸.教练会训练出越好的选手.女儿"并不成立 Overall, Iva Majoli and Mirjana Lucic in other areas would surely have all the opportunities for steady and natural sports development, would be processed without so many victims and sacrifices of their parents, their talent would be enough to care for them, sports Alliances, rich sponsors… quite certainly would not have been exposed to such a stress and trauma like they were exhibited in Croatia. 整体说来 Iva和Mirjana或许在其他领域都会有机会有更稳固.自然的运动发展 也许可以不必牺牲这麽多 他们的天份也许已经足够让他们照顾好自己 甚至能顾及其他的运动联盟或赞助 不需要承受他们展示在克罗埃西亚人们面前的这般压力 In Croatia, in fact, no one more seriously investing in sports education of children. Society, the general poverty, struck a negative seal, especially individual sports where you can only deal with children's of rich parents. Penury has become a factor limiting the development of sport: successes of children depend solely on material status of parents and their readiness to sacrifice. 事实上在克罗埃西亚 没有人会更认真的投入在体育教育上 社会中充满贫穷的现象 像这种个人化运动只适合给富裕家庭的孩子们 贫穷成为限制体育发展的重要因素之一 若要成功 孩子们只能依靠物质条件以及牺牲自己的意愿 -- 你可以瞬间肥去东京巴黎米兰纽约 别让健康检查的小数点左右你感觉 如果有人的体重足够为这世纪代言 那是他敢吃敢喝变胖蝴蝶飞舞翩翩 - 吉米威廉斯 《胖蝴蝶》 --

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