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※ [本文转录自 NBA 看板 #1DxUp9LE ] 作者: Laban (暴雪游戏序号批发) 看板: NBA 标题: Re: [外絮][转贴]欧尼尔的12大绰号 时间: Tue Jun 7 17:17:58 2011 ※ 引述《LoveBea (德川田信秀)》之铭言: : Shaquille这个名字 是欧尼尔的父母在帮他命名时 : 特地去翻回教的命名书找出来的 : (欧尼尔的父母不是回教徒 为什麽会去翻回教的书还是个谜 = =) : 意思是"小战士"的意思 欧尼尔的父母从小希望这孩子将来是个战士 : 欧尼尔的父亲 是美军 曾派驻德国 欧尼尔也曾以军眷身份在德国住过一年 : 欧尼尔从小就一直在美军基地打滚 也不负他的本名由来 : : The Big Deporter : : 「驱逐出境者」… 中文不好笑 : 欧尼尔自己曾提过 他跟乔丹的球风差别 : 就是看乔丹打球 你会说:真是优美~真希望跟他一样~ (like Mike) : 看欧尼尔打球 你会说:把这畜生赶出球场!!!(欧尼尔自己说的...) : : The Big Diesel : : 「大号柴油发动机」: 耐操耐蘑,季後赛马力惊人 : 欧尼尔的第一张专辑就叫做"Shaq Diesel" (我有买....= =) : 欧尼尔很喜欢柴油机的意象 因为那是大卡车车头都会写的字 : 台湾也是这样 你待会出门仔细找台卡车看看 车头应该都有写Diesel : 意思就是欧尼尔认为他就是台柴油大卡车 也曾以小跑车比喻过某人... 第一段错误很多帮你补充一下 "Shaquille"是他的生父Joseph Toney帮他取的 Joseph Toney在纽泽西当地算是出名的篮球明星 身高只有6"1 (Shaquille的篮球天份可能有遗传他老爸,身高则是遗传至外公,凭印象他外公好像也有 接近7"身高) 与交往三年高中刚毕业的Lucille O'Neal生下了Shaquille 不过在他出生不久後因诈欺及涉及毒品案进监狱了 他曾表示非常痛恨他的生父,无法原谅他 Toney 6年过後出狱,他的母亲Lucille O'Neal已经嫁给了Phillip A. Harrison 在Shaquille两岁的时候举家搬迁至德国失去了联系後Toney以为再也见不到他的儿子了 直到有天在电视上看到了Shaquille高中明星赛 "I saw a guy dunk and I heard them say his name and I said, 'Oh my, that's him! That's my son! And look how big he is!' Toney不断的重覆着,在那之後不断的透过关系想要跟他见上一面 但都被Shaquille给拒绝了。 O'Neal曾经出过一首跟他生父有关的歌 Biological didn't bother https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNJtxvObp_o
Joseph Toney interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwZtEDgcJlQ
还有Joseph Toney罚球 很明显比欧肥准很多 XDDD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgQN0AAD0ug
O'Neal曾经跟他的母亲说过不喜欢Shaquille这个名字 不过母亲跟他说你要让别人记住你的名字 让他们记住你这个人 因为母亲的鼓励所以O'Neal才开始创造出自己强烈的风格让世人记住他 详情可以参考O'Neal退休记者会影片翻译 http://video.sina.com.cn/deco/2008/1118/flvPlayer1218.swf?vid=53968640 另外有关於Biological didn't bother这首歌背後的故事原文 上面有自己翻一小段希望其他能有人翻一下@@ Bill Plaschke: 'Biological Didn't Bother' O'Neal chooses not to connect with the father who left him years ago. NEWARK, N.J. -- The man who doesn't exist walks larger than life through the dank hallways of the Goodwill Home and Mission, wearing a gold Laker jersey adorned with, "O'Neal." The man who abandoned his second child awakens every morning in his tiny, windowless room to photos of the boy on the wall and desk, all grown up, giant and famous and gone. The man who has been purposely forgotten has put a message on his answering machine that shows he will never forget. "Hi, this is Shaq ... " says the voice. That's not his name. But it was once his shame. And even as he tries to fix things from his place in the darkest shadow of his son's greatest glory, Joseph Toney realizes it's much too late. "It's finished, and it's God's will, and there's nothing more I can do," he said softly. Joseph Toney is Shaquille O'Neal's biological father. He lives and works in a Newark shelter 15 minutes from the Continental Airlines Arena, where O'Neal will lead the Lakers against the New Jersey Nets Wednesday in what could be a clinching Game 4 of the NBA Finals. Toney has obtained a ticket on his own and will cheer for his son but will not say hello. He has never said hello. They have never spoken. They have never even met. This is not by accident. Wondering how a father could leave his son when he was 6 months old, O'Neal treats him as if he's dead. Claiming he lost contact only because he was in prison, then on drugs, Toney says he is alive and sorry. O'Neal's people claim Toney is only looking for money and fame. and looking for nothing. The only thing certain is that these glorious days for a giant hero have been painfully nicked with irony. This is O'Neal's triumphant homecoming to a Newark area where he grew up and still maintains ties with as many as 200 relatives. Yet his closest blood relation here is not welcome. This is a time when O'Neal's funky trademark smile is becoming the NBA's logo. Yet the only man in the world who shares that smile doesn't even know him. When asked Monday about his biological father, O'Neal smile turned to stone. "No, it doesn't bother me at all," he said. "Because the man doesn't even exist." ___ "You want to see Shaq?" Mission says when you ask about Joseph Toney. That is what they call him here. It's a place more about desperate hope than heroes, these brick buildings lodged in a narrow street in downtown Newark, dozens of men wandering around, the air thick with old sweat and mumbled promises. Lots of men come here claiming to have something special. Joseph Toney has delivered. "When I heard he was Shaq's father, I took it with a grain of salt," said Rich Callahan, director of ministries. "You hear a lot of that sort of thing around here." But Toney, who checked in three years ago as just another drug-addled soul, always kept a scrapbook. And in that scrapbook he kept a birth certificate. He's only 6 feet 1, but he does have O'Neal's smile, and his lower jaw, and even his slow gait. As Toney straightened up and became a member of the Goodwill staff, driving a truck that delivered bread to homeless shelters, his credibility increased and everyone believed. "It's a pretty amazing story," Callahan says. Over the years, Toney has occasionally shared that story with the local newspaper, and he did so again last weekend. But with the Lakers arriving in town for the middle games of the NBA Finals, the news was too close for comfort. Sunday morning before Game 3 here, Phillip "Sarge" Harrison, O'Neal's career Army stepfather, was inside the mission's hallways, rapping on that front desk. He summoned Toney from his third-floor dormitory room and into the street, where he repeated rules that he had set many years ago. Recalled Toney: "He was upset and told me to stay away. I told him, I didn't want anything. I never wanted anything." Said Harrison later: "Of course he wants something. If Shaquille wasn't famous, we would have never heard from him. Why is he doing this? Why?" Toney has asked himself that same question and, now that he has been clean for three years, he says he has an answer. Said Toney: "Only one person can take a son away from you, and that's God." and blood, and he shows up now?" ___ Joseph Toney was a local basketball star. Lucille O'Neal worked down at the local drug store. They dated for three years until O'Neal graduated from high school. Then she became pregnant, just as Toney was turning to drugs. Toney was in the hospital with her when she gave birth to Shaquille. It was Toney who gave him the celebrated name. But soon, Toney was sent to federal prison in Lexington, Ky., on a conviction involving fraudulent checks. The way he tells the story: "When I came back home six years later, Lucille had already married Phillip, and I was out of the picture." Harrison tells a different story. "When he came back from prison, I saw him in the park, and we agreed that because he already had another child, I would be Shaquille's dad and take care of him," Harrison said. "We even shook hands on it." Toney said that while he agreed to give up parental rights, "I never said I didn't want to see my son again." The years passed, O'Neal moved to a military base in Germany, and Toney said all attempts to find him became fruitless. Said Toney: "Too much red tape." Said Harrison: "He never tried." Toney said he had given up, thinking his son would remain in Germany indefinitely, until the day he recognized Shaquille on TV during a high school all-star game. "I saw a guy dunk and I heard them say his name and I said, 'Oh my, that's him! That's my son! And look how big he is!' " Toney recalled. Toney said he tried to reach his son, phoning him at the basketball office at Louisiana State. But he said the return call came from Harrison. "He was really mad, told me to stay away," Toney recalled. Toney waited a couple of years until O'Neal played for the Orlando Magic. He flew to Orlando, contacted his coaches, and was told to wait for O'Neal near an exit after one of the games. "While I was standing there, they hustled Shaq out the other exit," he said. "So he was trying to avoid me." He was. He still is. Several years ago, O'Neal poured out his hurt in a rap song, "Biological Didn't Bother." Toney said this obvious pain is why he has finally stopped bothering. "I understand their situation, I feel for them," Toney said. "Phillip did a great job raising him. Probably a better job than I would have done. Shaq seems to be a nice young man. Things have turned out for the best." Toney said the only thing he wants is for his other two sons to meet their half-brother. That is what he told Harrison. Harrison said he would consider it. "I understand, it ain't those boys' fault," said Harrison. chance right now as the Nets. His friends may call him "Shaq," but he clearly once made the choice to ignore that name. And now that the sports world is celebrating it, he cannot. Said Toney: "I still feel that I had a part in creating one of the greatest players in the world." Said Harrison: "Yeah. But he left him. Think about that. He left him." --



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1F:推 LABOYS :众所皆知Shaq跟他的继父感情深厚, 06/07 17:20
2F:→ LABOYS :而和他的生父交恶,这跟他生父遗弃家庭和吸毒都有关 06/07 17:21
3F:→ LABOYS :而他的生父在Shaq因为篮球成名後一直尝试接触名利双 06/07 17:21
4F:→ LABOYS :收的儿子,不过据说都被Shaq断然拒绝。 06/07 17:22
没错 原文内也有提到 感谢补充 不过我又有找到一些资料说欧肥在08年之後就开始有跟他的生父接触 ※ 编辑: Laban 来自: 114.34.191.113 (06/07 17:27)
5F:→ Uber :6"1可以生出7"的儿子.....:Q 06/07 17:42
6F:→ Laban :没记错的话以前看过他自传 外公也有近7'身高 06/07 17:44
7F:推 StarTouching:所以说 母亲的基因比较重要 XD 06/07 18:48
8F:推 jonestem :我个人的经验也让我觉得儿子的身高跟母亲那边相关大 06/07 19:28
9F:推 ccc101419 :之前不是有张照片侠客跟表哥合照?侠客变很小只 06/07 20:20
10F:推 thegod13 :所以说要外公+老爸 真不容易啊 果然不世出 06/07 21:19
11F:推 cmid05 :借转 谢谢 06/07 23:05
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