※ [本文转录自 MLB 看板] 作者: accprote (KS) 看板: MLB 标题: [外电] Troy Tulowitzki vs Ryan Braun 时间: Sat Jan 30 23:29:24 2010 The question of who is the better player between Ryan Braun and Troy Tulowitzki has been an obsession of mine since the 2007 Rookie of the Year voting results (or snub, depending on your point of view) were reported to the world. 从2007年的ROY票选结果公布之後後,Ryan Braun跟Troy Tulowitzki两人之间 　　　　，谁比较好的问题一直困扰着我 Non-statheads and traditionalists (and Brewer fans) would most likely choose Ryan Braun based on his counting stats total over the past 3 years (.308/.363/.574 with 103 HR and 317 RBI) and say that he is far superior to Tulowitzki's (.286/.359/.486 with 64 HR and 237 RBI) over that same stretch. As a side note, I am not including Tulowitzki's cup of coffee as a September call up in 2006 in these tallies; also of note Braun has a 15 game advantage over the past 3 seasons due to the inuries suffered by Tulowitzki durin the 2008 season. 在数据以及传统上(以及酒鬼迷)，Ryan Braun过去三年的成绩比较受到青睐 (.308/.363/.574 with 103 HR and 317 RBI) 遥遥领先同时Tulowitzki的(.286/.359/.486 with 64 HR and 237 RBI) 一个小提醒，我没有计算Tulowitzki在2006年的九月被叫上来泡咖啡的时期， 以及基於Tulowitzki在08年赛季中受伤而让Braun在过去三年有多十五场的优势 But if you look deeper into advanced metrics for determining player value, the case can be made that Tulowitzki is the better player. According to fangraphs Braun has compiled WAR totals over the past 3 years of 3.2, 4 and 4.8 for a total of 12 while Tulo has put up 5.4, 0.9 and 5.4 for a total of 11.7. If you factor in the fact that Braun has played 15 more games and put it in terms of a WAR/game measure its Braun 0.285 and Tulo 0.287. 但如果你更深入研究可以决定球员价值的数据的话，Tulowitzki会是比较好的球员 根据fangraphs,Braun过去三年的WAR指数是3.2,4,4.8，三年加总是12 而Tulo则是5.4,0.9,5.4，加总起来是11.7， 如果把Braun多达15场以上的比赛算到WAR/game的话，Braun是0.285，Tulo是0.287 Baseball Prospectus thinks Tulo is better by a much bigger margin when you look at 3rd degree WARP numbers. Braun has a WARP3 factor of 15.3 and Tulowitzki 17.3. Baseball Prospectus认为当你在看第三度WARP数字时，(这段不太懂是啥数据,翻错抱歉) Tulo是比较好的，Braun的WARP3数据是15.3，而Tulowitzki是17.3 Looking forward, Pecota and Chone both look more favorably upon Tulowitzki than Braun. While Marcels gives Braun the edge. Pecota跟Chone这都看好未来Tulowitzki会比Braun更好，虽然Macels有给Braun点优势 There is no question that Braun is the better hitter. But we're trying to look at value here and who is the better PLAYER overall. Tulowitzki has great defense at a premium position, and is now starting to hit a little better which drives up his value, while Braun has superior offense at the least valuable defensive position. Braun是个好打者是无庸置疑的，但是我们试着去看谁有价值，谁是最好的PLAYER Tulowitzki有很好的守备，而且现在慢慢打出他的价值， 而Braun良好的打击补足了他守备上的不足 Both players have been signed to long term deals at a deep discount, thus providing tremendous surplus value in a trade. Bruan has the edge in this department by about $2 to $4 million. Who is the better player? What are your thougts? 两位都已经签下便宜的长约，他们都在交易中有巨大的价值， Braun有多达$2M~$4M的价值 Who is the better player? What are your thougts? 排山口山时看到文章试着翻译看看，顺便练习一下， 翻得不好请见谅，也请多指出错误，谢谢 -- ◣ 干咧! 刚重灌好找解压缩 包成这样是要怎麽安装啦!! ▉▅▅▏ ◣ / ▁ ▉ΞΞ▏ \◣ 好的格式是不会沈寂的 现在叫好人帮你装电脑的时候 ▕支▏ ▉＿＿▏ ◤\ 也通常都会顺便把winrar灌进去啦 ▕离▏ ▃▃▃▃ ▇ Winrar_390-Final.rar 推 axxxxxxx:但是也有把winrar安装程式压缩成rar的好人 --

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