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作者: yiyi7443 (依依) 看板: NBA 标题: [外絮] 当你被交易时 - PPat经验谈 时间: Tue Feb 24 23:38:59 2015 You’ve Been Traded 日  期:Feb 19 2015 作  者:Patrick Patterson(现役多伦多暴龙队球员) 原文连结: http://www.theplayerstribune.com/nba-trade-deadline-patrick-patterson/ http://miupix.cc/pm-BS1DHL The first time I was traded, I was completely blindsided. 我第一次被交易的时候,完全措手不及。 It was February, the middle of the season, and my team, the Houston Rockets, was hosting the Oklahoma City Thunder. I went through my normal game day routine: put some shots up, took a nap, grabbed some food, went to the arena, took a shower and then started watching film. The coaching staff entered to give us their usual pre-game scouting report, and as I was lacing up my sneakers, our head trainer told me that the general manager and the vice president of basketball operations needed to talk to me. 那时是二月,球季中。我所属的火箭队,即将在主场迎战奥克拉荷马雷霆队。 我一如往常按表操课:练投、睡午觉、吃点东西、抵达球场、淋浴,然後开始 研究影片。教练团跟平常一样给我们一份赛前球探报告。我正在系鞋带的时候, 首席防护员跟我说,球队经理和副总裁想找我谈谈。 This didn’t make any alarms go off in my head. I was in my third year in the league, all of them spent with the Rockets, and I was having my best season yet. I also had a really solid relationship with the GM and the rest of the front office. Sometimes they’d call me into the front office just to see how I was feeling about the team or even to ask my advice about draft prospects. Why would this meeting to be anything out of the ordinary? 这并没让我产生任何警觉心。那时候我已经在联盟里待了三年、一直以火箭为 家,而且正打出我生涯最佳的球季。我和经理以及制服组的关系也非常好。有 时候他们把我叫到办公室,只是想问问我在队上觉得如何,甚至会在选秀方面 徵询我的意见。这次会面怎麽可能和往常不同呢? So I walked into the GM’s office very relaxed and sat down. With the trade deadline approaching, I wondered if I was going to find out about a new teammate. 於是我走进总经理办公室,一派轻松地坐下来。交易大限快到了,我心想是不 是很快要有新队友了。 That’s not quite how it went. 但事情并非我想的那样。 “What’s good?” I asked. 「有什麽消息吗?」 “Unfortunately, nothing.” 「很可惜,什麽也没有。」 The feeling in the room shifted. 办公室里的气氛突然变了。 “What do you mean?” 「这是什麽意思?」 “We just traded you to the Kings.” 「我们刚把你交易到国王队。」 I didn’t comprehend right away. I paused for what felt like a while, then just blurted out the first thing that popped into my head: 我一时无法会意过来。僵住了好一阵子,才脱口说出一句话: “Who did y’all trade me for?” 「你们用我交易了谁?」 “Thomas Robinson.” 「T-Rob。」 I hear a record scratch in my head. 我听见自己脑海里发出尖锐地刮擦声。 Is this April Fools? Thomas Robinson? No disrespect to him, I understand he was a top-five draft pick, but still, he’s a rookie who hasn’t gotten consistent minutes on a struggling team! I’m a starter averaging career-highs on a team in playoff contention. We’re winning! Are you serious? This is bullshit. 这是愚人节玩笑吗?T-Rob? 我没有瞧不起他的意思,我知道他是乐透前五选秀。 但是,拜托,他是个菜鸟,在一支烂队连固定上场时间都没有! 我可是一支季後赛队伍的先发,还打出了生涯年耶~ 我们正在赢球!你是认真的吗?这全是狗屎! That’s what I wanted to say, but it’s not what I said. 这是我打算说的内心话,但我并没有真的说出口。 What actually happened was I thanked them for the opportunity to be a part of the organization, they told me to let them know if there’s anything else I need, and then I left the office. 实际的情况是,我谢谢他们给我这个机会成为球队的一份子。 他们回答有什麽帮得上忙的尽管说。接着我就离开了办公室。 When you’re traded, you can’t help but compare yourself to the guy you’re traded for. It’s partly an ego thing, but it’s also related to your perceived value in the league. The truth is, while it was tough to be traded for a rookie, there probably weren’t many people who would have softened the blow for me. It stung. 当你被交易了,你忍不住会拿自己和交易来的家伙相比。这不仅事关自尊, 同时也和在这个联盟中,人们认为你有多少斤两有关。事实就是,被拿来 交易一个菜鸟很伤自尊。但不论交易对象是谁,都很难减低我所遭受的冲击。 这是锥心之痛。 I walked back to the locker room for the last time. A couple of the guys asked what happened. When I told them, they were sure I was messing around. 我最後一次走回更衣室。几个队友问我怎麽了。 当我告诉他们实情,他们还以为我在恶作剧。 As the rest of the team prepared for the game — a game I thought I’d be starting in — I left the arena in a car that was arranged to take me home. Immediately, my phone started blowing up — my agent, my family, friends. But I didn’t want to talk to anybody. I was furious. The hardest part might have been sitting at home that night watching the Rockets win the game. 原本我以为自己会在这场比赛先发上场,但当全队准备比赛时,我从球场搭车 回到家。我的电话开始响个不停,我的经纪人、家人、朋友纷纷来电。但我不 想和任何人讲话。我怒气冲天。最难受的部份,或许是独自坐在家中,看着火 箭击败雷霆赢球。 A trade feels like a breakup. But like a tough breakup, my bitterness towards the Rockets faded over time. I understand now that it was strictly a business decision. And I respect the guys in the front office for doing their jobs. But how can you not take it personally? 交易就像分手。虽然分手时不太愉快,但我对火箭的埋怨渐渐被时间冲淡。 我现在懂了,这只是在商言商。我了解制服组也只是在做自己的工作。但是 你怎麽可能不把这事放在心上? When you’re traded, you have to learn to move on quickly. Within three days, I was on a flight to Sacramento. While I was happy to reunite with DeMarcus Cousins, a guy I’ve considered my little brother ever since we played together at Kentucky, I had trouble getting into a groove with the Kings. 被交易之後,你必须要迅速做出改变。三天内我搭上了前往沙加缅度的班机。 虽然我很开心能够和肯塔基时期的队友Cousins重聚,但我难以适应国王队的节奏。 Before that point, I never thought much about the human factor of trades. It was just a string of names scrolling on the bottom ticker on ESPN. Like any big career change, my trade meant being forced to leave behind really close friends, a city I was used to and a work environment was comfortable in. My game suffered. My shot felt off. I simply wasn’t playing my best basketball. As anyone who’s ever been frustrated at work can tell you, your attitude and productivity take a hit and it’s hard to dig yourself out. I was in a slump and I blamed it on the trade. 在这之前,我一直以为交易不过是ESPN跑马灯上的一串名单罢了,从来没想过 交易背後也是活生生的人。交易就像重大的职涯变化,迫使我离开亲密的好友、 习惯的城市、熟悉的环境。我比赛打得很差、球也投不进。我打不出最佳状态。 就像那些在工作上不如意的人会说的,你知道自己态度和表现下滑,但你无法 让自己振作起来。我陷入低潮,并且把这一切归咎於交易。 By the following season, as I got more comfortable, my play began to improve. And, guess what, that’s when my agent called and told me that my name was being floated around in trade rumors. 到了下一个球季,我觉得自在多了。我的表现也有了起色。猜猜怎麽样?那时候 我的经纪人打电话来,说我又卷入了好几则交易流言之中。 Another trade? 另一次交易? This time I was determined not to let the trade surprise me. I stayed on top of every possible story line. I kept track of trade rumors online. But, as I learned the first time, athletes are often to last to find out about their own trade. 这次我决心不再让自己措手不及。我要掌握先机、密切关注网路上的交易流言。 霸特,就像我从第一次经验学到的,球员总是最後一个才知道自己被交易了。 That December, I flew my parents and one of my best friends to Sacramento and we went to the movie theater to watch The Hunger Games: Catching Fire. (Great flick, by the way.) As we pulled up to the theater, my phone started blowing up with texts from friends telling me that I’d been traded. As I walked into the theater to pick up our tickets, my agent called, “Pat, you’ve been traded to Toronto.” To be honest, my first thought was, Damn, it’s cold as shit in Toronto. Then I started thinking about moving to a foreign country with a different culture and an unfamiliar lifestyle. It was a lot to take in. 那年十二月,我的好友和妈妈飞到沙加缅度来看我。我们一起去看电影《饥饿游戏: 星火燎原》(题外话,电影不错看哦)。就在我们抵达电影院时,我的电话被朋友 传来的简讯塞爆,说我被交易了。就在我去取票的时候,经纪人打来了:「Pat, 你被交易到多伦多了。」老实说,我的第一个念头是:该死的,多伦多冷爆了。 然後我想到要移居到国外、适应不同的文化、陌生的生活方式等等。各种念头纷至 沓来。 But, I mean, it was The Hunger Games and I’d already bought the tickets, so I turned off my phone and watched the movie with my mom and best friend. Looking back, I think I wanted two hours of escape before returning to reality. 但,我的意思是,这可是《饥饿游戏》,而且我票都买好了。所以我关掉手机, 进戏院和妈妈还有好友一起看电影。现在回想起来,我非常需要那两个小时的 短暂逃离,才能够重新面对现实。 After the movie, we were walking back to the car. 电影结束之後,我们走回停车的地方。 “Yo Mom, I got something to tell you.” 「妈,我有件事情要跟你说。」 “What?” 「什麽事?」 “I got traded.” 「我被交易了。」 “Boy, stop!” 「孩子,别说笑了!」 She definitely thought I was messing around. 她以为我一定是在恶作剧。 “I’m serious. I got traded to Toronto.” 「我是说真的,我被交易到多伦多了。」 At that moment, she looked down at her phone and saw a bunch of missed calls and an ESPN notification. It was real. 这时候,她低头看了手机,一堆未接来电,还有ESPN发的快讯。原来是真的。 Even though I hadn’t spent very long in Sacramento and I had anticipated the trade, I’ll be honest: I wasn’t happy to be going to Toronto. The team had a terrible record, and it felt far away. Did I mention the really cold weather? REALLY cold weather. Coming from Sacramento, the warmest clothing item I owned was a fleece. 虽然我在国王队待的时间不长,也有被交易的心理准备。但老实说,我真的不想去 多伦多。这支球队战绩惨不忍睹,那地方还远得要命。我有没有提过那里天气有够 冷?超级—无敌—霹雳冷。住在沙加缅度,我最厚的衣服不过就是件刷毛外套。 Not long after that, I boarded a flight to Toronto, along with John Salmons and Chuck Hayes, who were part of my trade. I remember as the pilot told us that we were about to descend, I pulled up the window shade and all I saw was … white. Just white everywhere. I’d been traded to the North Pole. 不久之後,我搭上了前往多伦多的班机,一道的还有和我一起被打包的鲑鱼、 海爷。我还记得当机长宣布飞机准备降落时,我打开机窗的遮阳板,放眼望去…… 全是白色,到处一片白茫茫。我这是被交易到了北极吧。 As soon as we got dropped off at our hotel, I called my agent and told him to do whatever he had to do to get me out of Toronto. He told me to give it some time and that he’d speak to the front office. 我们一抵达下榻饭店,我立刻打电话给经纪人,告诉他不计一切也要把我弄出 多伦多。他要我给他一点时间,他会和球队讨论。 A few weeks passed and I start getting into a routine with the team. As my role got more defined and I got comfortable in the system, I noticed the team was improving. The weather certainly hadn’t changed and my phone bill was astronomical, but my skepticism about the Raptors was fading. 几个星期过去了,我开始跟上球队的节奏。我的定位变得更明确,也渐渐适应 这个体系。我注意到球队战绩在进步。不变的是这里的天气。还有我的电话帐 单根本是天文数字。不过我对暴龙队的不信任感正在逐渐淡去。 Fans and media were catching on, too. When I first arrived in Toronto, there were a lot people claiming we were tanking to get Andrew Wiggins. But then we started winning games. We beat Oklahoma City, we beat Dallas, we began protecting our home court, and the attention shifted from getting a top-five draft pick to making the playoffs. My agent called and told me me that he had a few teams that were interested in me. A few weeks earlier this would’ve been music to my ears, but suddenly I was thinking, Let’s see what this squad can do. 球迷和媒体也注意到了球队的改变。我刚到暴龙队时,很多人都说我们在摆烂, 想要抢状元Andrew Wiggins。但是我们开始赢球了,我们击败雷霆、击败小牛, 我们拿下不少主场胜利。於是焦点从如何坦到前五乐透签,到如何打进季後赛。 我经纪人来电,说有几支队伍队我有兴趣。几周之前,这个消息对我来说根本 有如天籁。突然之间,我心想:让我们看看这支球队能走多远吧! When I started getting to know Toronto, I fell in love with the city. If you come here, you will too. When free agency rolled around, I explored my options, but ultimately it wasn’t a hard call to remain in a Raptors uniform. I knew I was a part of something special here. 当我开始认识多伦多这座城市,我爱上了这里。如果你来这里,也会像我一样。 自由市场开跑後,我检视了几个选择,最後决定继续穿上暴龙的制服,这个决定 并不困难。我知道自己可以在这里贡献所能。 I learned a lot about the business of the NBA from these experiences, and a lot about myself. You’re not going to immediately love everything about a new job. But you still have to go to work every day and do your best. The less time you spend concerned with circumstances beyond your control, the more time you have to adjust and adapt. This I learned the hard way. 从这几次经验里,我学了很多关於NBA的生意经,更多的是认识我自己。通常 你不会立刻爱上新工作。但你每天依然必须兢兢业业去上班。少花点时间在 你无法掌控的外界因素,那麽你会有更多时间去调整和适应。这可是我历经 一番寒彻骨才学到的。 Out of respect, I think NBA teams should let players know if they might potentially be involved in a trade. Yes, the NBA is a business, but I think that would be a better way to treat its employees. 基於尊重,我认为NBA球队应该让球员们知道他们有可能被交易。 是啦,NBA就是一门生意。但我觉得应该有更恰当的方式来对待雇员。 If you told me two years ago that I’d be a Toronto Raptor, I would have thought you were crazy. But here I am, freezing my ass off, smiling and winning basketball games. 两年前如果你告诉我,我会加入多伦多暴龙队。我会说你疯了。 但现在我就在这里,冻个半死,但面带微笑、继续赢球。 I’d call that a fair trade. 我觉得这称得上是个公平交易。 --



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1F:→ nenpow : 泪推PPT,跟TRob交易时的想法满真实的 02/25 01:43
2F:推 shinn816 : 交易PPT可能主要还是续约跟後续交易的需要 管理层 02/25 01:59
3F:→ shinn816 : 认为顺位高的新秀比较好交易 不过当时蛮喜欢PPT的 02/25 02:00
4F:→ shinn816 : 好像第一季表现特别好 後来受伤回来後比较挣扎 有三 02/25 02:01
5F:→ shinn816 : 分 可是抢篮板差点 现在在暴龙进步更大了 02/25 02:01
6F:推 shinn816 : 至於交易要事先让球员知道也很难 恐怕连莫雷都不知 02/25 02:07
7F:→ shinn816 : 到交易会不会成功 成功的时候就立马要去新球队报到 02/25 02:08
8F:→ shinn816 : 每次交易大限到来还蛮刺激的 虽然对某些球员来说是 02/25 02:09
9F:→ shinn816 : 很残酷 02/25 02:09
10F:推 swimbert : 为了保障球员权益,能不能把可交易时间限缩,例如只 02/25 08:49
11F:→ swimbert : 有季後才能交易?球员的工具性太强,都失去为人尊严了 02/25 08:51
12F:推 JCrawford : 没有这麽夸张啦,能在这联盟打球就已经够幸运的 02/25 09:05
13F:→ JCrawford : 赚的钱也比一般人多,我想很多人宁愿失去"尊严"来 02/25 09:06
14F:→ JCrawford : NBA打球 02/25 09:06
15F:→ JCrawford : 这本来就是联盟的游戏规则,没有球队想一辈子当弱队 02/25 09:07
16F:→ JCrawford : 更何况你被交易时,你合约薪资可是不受影响 02/25 09:08
17F:推 jajaye : 交易时间限缩 会有个问题 那就是想走的球员走不了 02/25 09:16
18F:推 jajaye : 例如 Reggie Jackson曾因没被交易拒绝上场 02/25 09:17
19F:推 jajaye : 球队提前告知球员会被交易这点也很难实现 02/25 09:18
20F:推 jajaye : 像本季火箭想要龙王和抓鸡 直到最後时刻都还没确定 02/25 09:19
21F:推 jajaye : 然後交易没成功 那如已经先跟某些球员说会交易的话 02/25 09:20
22F:推 jajaye : 那不是开天窗了@@ 所以其实理想跟现实面很难两全 02/25 09:21
23F:推 liafree : 莫雷那几季的手法其实很明显 把球员交易在高点 02/25 09:33
24F:→ liafree : 积一堆筹码 渴望换大咖 02/25 09:33
25F:→ liafree : 那一季PPT真的打得不错 外线也出来了 02/25 09:34
26F:→ liafree : 但没办法 硬要说防守跟身高还是一个困扰 02/25 09:34
27F:→ liafree : 自然就不再莫雷蓝图中 02/25 09:34
28F:→ nenpow : 我对交易规则本身没啥意见,只是惋惜PPT而已 02/25 09:36
29F:推 jajaye : 其实那时候就是MM解体後 真正的拆掉重建 02/25 09:36
30F:推 jajaye : 没MM後那套阵容也试了三年 结果连三年老九 02/25 09:37
31F:→ nenpow : 当时好歹还是在火箭待最久的球员,换来个没用的TRob 02/25 09:37
32F:→ nenpow : 重建过程我是希望至少留一个新人也好..但全清了 02/25 09:38
33F:推 jajaye : 其实有想留的阿 就CP25 可是养太好被抢走了 02/25 09:40
34F:推 JCrawford : 想到成功迎来DH,换Trob还是有价值啦 02/25 09:46
35F:→ JCrawford : 就真的只是交易中的齿轮 02/25 09:46
36F:→ JCrawford : 以现在来看PPT说他强也没有强过Dmo TJ到哪去 02/25 09:48
37F:→ nenpow : 事後看也只能这样想,但也是TRob打够烂才会选清他 02/25 09:50
38F:推 JCrawford : PPT年薪6m,Dmo TJ各1.6m,以轮替角度看,多两只让 02/25 09:52
39F:推 mkflyk23 : 连三年老九真的超干...XD 02/25 09:52
40F:→ JCrawford : 阵容深度是大胜 02/25 09:52
41F:→ nenpow : 他现在就是更强的RA,他的进攻手段真的算稀有的 02/25 09:55
42F:推 JCrawford : 不是他打得够烂才清他,他约最大,加上他是乐透秀 02/25 09:57
43F:→ JCrawford : 乐透秀随便丢都有人捡,相对的留PPT要丢就不好丢了 02/25 09:57
44F:→ nenpow : 如果当年TRob真的能顶上先发PF,清的人可能就变了 02/25 09:58
45F:→ nenpow : 从现在看的确TRob就是交易来方便丢掉的 02/25 10:00
46F:推 JCrawford : 我记得还没进入暑假,就有人在分析火箭薪资结构 02/25 10:01
47F:→ JCrawford : 好像是前林板板主提出的,他占3m好丢不丢他不行 02/25 10:01
48F:→ JCrawford : 而且那时间点又容易被抢劫 02/25 10:02
49F:→ nenpow : 当时来看当然是要丢他,TJ和DMO都打得比他好,又贵 02/25 10:03
50F:→ nenpow : 但如果那季他真的打出第五顺位身价,那DMO TJ可能就 02/25 10:04
51F:→ nenpow : 一起清了 02/25 10:04
52F:推 JCrawford : 我觉得不会..,他若真的打出第5顺位价值,那拿出去 02/25 10:05
53F:→ JCrawford : 换签也比清Dmo TJ还好清 02/25 10:05
54F:→ nenpow : 他最後也才换两个次轮+旅外权,要说TJ跟DMO各自换 02/25 10:07
55F:→ nenpow : 不到个次轮我是不太信啦.. 02/25 10:07
56F:→ IBIZA : 问题不是谁好清  是清掉谁空间才够... 02/25 10:10
57F:→ nenpow : 好吧我忘记了..TJ和DMO加起来没当时TRob多? 02/25 10:15
58F:→ IBIZA : TJ+DMO 2.9m TRob 3.3m 02/25 10:30
59F:推 kusami : 想想TJ Dmo吧 只希望能长留这两个 02/25 10:31
60F:→ kusami : 话说T-Rob後来拿到Papa+两个次轮+一个欧陆 02/25 10:32
61F:→ kusami : 现在看好像反而抢人了.. 02/25 10:33
62F:→ IBIZA : 那时候还卡在White不知道清不清得掉, 而且salary 02/25 10:35
63F:→ IBIZA : cap也还不知道 02/25 10:35
64F:推 JCrawford : 我觉得TJ顺位应该要比Trob高..TJ身高比他高,体能也 02/25 10:36
65F:→ JCrawford : 也很好 02/25 10:36
66F:→ IBIZA : 最後是成功清掉White的1.7m, 才低於薪资上限0.9m 02/25 10:36
67F:→ JCrawford : 应该说Trob顺位5太扯了.. 02/25 10:37
68F:→ nenpow : 暑假前我是绝对认为该清的,我只是觉得如果当时TRob 02/25 10:38
69F:→ nenpow : 打起来故事会不一样 02/25 10:38
70F:推 JCrawford : 除非他打起来的效果跟BG一样..,若只是跟TJ Dmo小有 02/25 10:40
71F:→ nenpow : 想像TRob打得跟装猛一样还帮火箭过首轮 02/25 10:40
72F:→ JCrawford : 亮点,那注定还是被清 02/25 10:40
73F:→ nenpow : 那倒是,tj dmo首年也没特别惊艳 02/25 10:42
74F:→ IBIZA : 那年ppt跟mm交易掉之後, PF根本一个洞, TJ受伤了一 02/25 11:12
75F:→ IBIZA : 个月, 快四月才归队, DMO对抗性差又容易犯规 02/25 11:13
76F:→ IBIZA : 结果Delfino打最多.. 02/25 11:13
77F:→ IBIZA : 最後打到季後赛倒数第二场 Delfino就炸了..orz 02/25 11:16
78F:→ nenpow : 就是这样..现在看可能无所谓,但当时真的很不爽 02/25 12:24
79F:→ nenpow : 很久没季後赛了,在季中把PF抽掉,那季如果林下半季 02/25 12:25
80F:→ nenpow : 打得跟上半季一样,很可能季後赛就没了 02/25 12:25
81F:→ nenpow : 另外还靠Delfino卖老命打,打到季後赚个约就伤了 02/25 12:27
82F:推 kusami : 我箭真的很亏欠阿根廷人啊 对老普好一点吧 02/25 12:32
83F:→ kusami : 送他个总冠戒指退休吧! 02/25 12:33
84F:→ kusami : TJ顺位会掉到18还得感谢AD压他学长数据XD 02/25 12:34
85F:→ JALAL : TJ跟DMO 感情上都蛮想留住 02/25 12:48
86F:推 liafree : D-MO是怕未来有球队抢 TJ希望能稳稳留住 02/25 13:15
87F:→ liafree : PPT厉害的就是外围投射能力吧 其他都普普又占6M 02/25 13:15
88F:→ nenpow : 光那种手感就不常见了…别忘了上季还考虑过用asik 02/25 13:25
89F:→ nenpow : 换RA 02/25 13:25
90F:推 jajaye : DMO认为TJ跟他会很好搭 好像也是 感觉可以互补 02/25 13:28
91F:推 jajaye : 如果DMO+TJ的组合能成长成招牌 感觉也不错 02/25 13:29
92F:推 ghghfftjack : 八成很多人的心理跟PPT的想对莫雷吼的那段想法一样 02/25 13:30
93F:→ ghghfftjack : 不过其实可以理解被交易的焦虑 02/25 13:31
94F:→ ghghfftjack : 当兵新训结束要被换到另一个陌生环境总会惶惶然的感 02/25 13:31
95F:→ ghghfftjack : 受 02/25 13:31
96F:→ ghghfftjack : 我不觉得有像分手那麽严重啦...交易有很多种状况 02/25 13:32
97F:→ ghghfftjack : PPT这种算是还好的 最後也到了一个好地方 祝福他 02/25 13:32
98F:→ ghghfftjack : 太阳跟抓鸡那个才像分手 02/25 13:32
99F:推 shinn816 : 被裁掉的更痛苦 02/25 15:02
100F:→ JALAL : 这篇ppt讲的还挺幽默的 也多了些无奈感 02/25 15:03
101F:推 rbking21 : 我只觉得他的文笔真好 哈哈 02/25 16:37
102F:推 yiyi7443 : 自己推一个 哈哈 没想到PPT这麽会写 GM办公室那段 02/25 20:47
103F:→ yiyi7443 : 超传神 而且把他没有当面对莫雷说的OS 都写出来了XD 02/25 20:47
104F:→ yiyi7443 : 虽然PPT那年上半季打得不错 但好像也被酸蛮惨的 02/25 20:48
105F:→ yiyi7443 : 大後锋不抢板之类 当时Stretch 4的观念没那麽普遍 02/25 20:48
106F:→ IBIZA : 他是被mchale连累了,很多其实是想骂mchale不会用大 02/25 21:02
107F:→ IBIZA : 前锋,所以骂到他 02/25 21:02
108F:→ IBIZA : 不过现在,谁没穿裤子已经很清楚了 02/25 21:03
109F:推 kusami : PPT最好的用法就真的是Stretch 4蹲底角.... 02/25 22:17
110F:→ kusami : 至於防守跟篮板这真的是他弱项 02/25 22:17
111F:推 liafree : 他都底角真的稳 02/25 22:34
112F:推 Jormungandr : Ppt投射能力之外都很普通呀... 02/26 10:50







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