作者ghghfftjack (慾望深厚的老衲)
看板Rockets
标题Fw: [外絮] ISOLATION SCORING
时间Mon Dec 16 20:37:33 2013
※ [本文转录自 Jeremy_Lin 看板 #1IhlFBjf ]
作者: ghghfftjack (慾望深厚的老衲) 看板: Jeremy_Lin
标题: [外絮] ISOLATION SCORING
时间: Mon Dec 16 20:36:23 2013
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=248305
火箭论坛的分析
ISOLATION SCORING, Statistical analysis of LIN vs HARDEN and the top 50
scorers ISO rankings
every corner of the internet has an opinion on ISO ball it seems. Who is
efficient at this particular shot and who is really really bad and should be
getting ridiculed for their continued shot selection which is hurting their
team. First lets look at the battle between Harden vs Lin
James Harden VS Jeremy Lin
Both terrific offensive players who have shown to be proven scoeres when
required, the debate between Harden and Lin in relation to isolations is
intriguing. so who is statistically better?
http://ppt.cc/ByBQ
(harden's data is in the white rows shown before Lins data in the grey rows)
Thats right, they are exactly the same on PPP (points per possession),
interesting after the hot start got off to at the start of the year Lin got
off to and the sluggish start James got off to, that the data still shows
both players converting at .97 PPS ranking them 17th in the league in
qualified players.
Although harden has almost 4x the amount of shots and only converting on
36.6% of shots for Harden to still be converting at a rate of .97 is
exceptional when compared to other notable players in the league.
简单说
在ISO的表现上 Lin跟 Harden目前为止几乎是同样出色
联盟球员中同样排名17
http://ppt.cc/3Rsa
also the table above shows Houston as a whole performance in the isolations.
We rank middle of the pack at 16th and have a PPP of .81 which are both below
out 2 primary ball handlers.
然而火箭整体在ISO的表现只能算是中下 排名16
(总体攻击表现倒是排名第3)
How the Top 50 scorers perform in isolations. note (lin does not qualify for
this list)
Im sure before you look at the graph i created you already have some wild
guesses, for instance "rudy gay will be inefficient" and from creating this
their wasnt really that many concerns. The biggest surprise to me was Lebron
only boasting a PPP on isolations of .85 which compared to the average for
percentage of isolations he takes is below average.
http://ppt.cc/PQL7
- Harden is above the average for the amount of shots taken. note even though
Parsons takes only 7.4% of his shots been isolations but converts them at a
terrible .54 PPP. Perhaps its the small sample size and will be interesting
to watch his stats.
- also secondly although dwight qualifies for the top 50 scorers he has only
taken 2 isolation plays for the year which equates to .5% of his total shots
and has not made one.
- if you would like to know where Lin would be on this graph then he would be
positioned just to the left of Dragic which like James Harden is above league
average
- Rudy gay is Rudy Gay, he takes the most ISO's for the amount of shots he
takes and is terribly inefficient
- Eric Bledsoe is ranked no.1 by synergy sports at 1.32 PPP as Wesley
Matthews 1.5PPP has not taken enough attempts.
高富帅在ISO上的表现非常差,PPP只有.54 (尽管有可能有小样本偏差)
(ISO在他的攻击手段中只占了7.4%)
上面那张图是前五十得分手的图 Lin的分数跟出手次数都很低所以不会上榜
如果想知道他在上面那张ISO图会排名哪里 根据出手数量还有效率会在Gragic左边
Rudy Gay ISO最多 但是效率颇差
目前ISO最强的是太阳的Bledsoe 1.5PPP领先群雄
(难怪太阳今年这麽强 一个水准以上的抓鸡跟第一名的布雷兽...)
Conclusion
Whether it frustrates you or not, just think about it, it could be a whole
lot worse if we didn't have efficient scores like Harden and Lin. Also note
that Harden has improved his isolation scoring from .93 PPP to this years .97
even with his slow start to the year. Things are looking up Clutchfans, we
are coming
结论 如果没有哈登跟Lin这两个高效单打得分手的话会颇惨的
(好像废话 可是其他不重要懒得翻)
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重点节录
1.哈登跟Lin两个人的ISO很强 不过哈登的ISO比重非常大 Lin
2.火箭整体ISO的表现上不怎样 只有联盟中游水准
(上面那分析不晓得有没有扣掉Lin跟哈登 没有的话那颇惨的...虽然也只限ISO的部分)
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1F:推 yoshro:CP25这部分有这麽差吗?... 至於LIN不是要她转射手为何会惨 12/16 20:53
2F:推 jajaye:CP25的ISO本来就普普吧 感觉也很难练起来 12/16 21:16
3F:推 ibise:给一楼, 颇惨指的是哈林以外的其他人颇惨 XD 12/16 21:16
4F:→ tigertiger:CP25连身材打点都很不稳... 12/16 21:19
5F:推 treerivers:CP25很吃体系 大部分是空手跑位 12/16 21:30
6F:→ treerivers:不过火箭已经不打算把Lin放在战术体系内了 还是敢快交 12/16 21:31
7F:→ treerivers:易掉吧 这样对双方都好 12/16 21:31
8F:推 yoshro:我还蛮喜欢看CP25那种超无言的假..假动作 之後左摇右晃 12/16 22:16
9F:→ yoshro:大跨步(最近加了欧洲步)往篮框攻击 怎麽摆怎麽进 12/16 22:17
10F:推 gunng:林本季进攻上还是持球切入为主 12/16 22:18
11F:推 Aswind:反正现在莫雷也没办法挑三减四了 不快点交易 下一季的大约 12/16 22:19
12F:→ Aswind:就愈难摆脱 12/16 22:19
13F:推 gunng:好奇问一下 像胡子那样切入买犯也会算在ISO上吗? 12/16 22:20
14F:推 erotica:PB跟小AB才是火箭iso第二顺位....... 12/16 23:02
15F:推 emoil5566:CP上篮就是跌跌撞撞的 奇怪的是就是会进XDD 12/16 23:33
16F:→ IBIZA:gunng 没经过掩护的话就会 12/16 23:39
17F:推 monk2:让哈登单打取分没关系、但请学勇士或小牛为哈登设计掩护 12/17 00:14
18F:→ IBIZA:掩护其实很多 但是教练组已经明讲不会打set play了 12/17 00:25
19F:推 gunng:嗯 谢谢解释 12/17 00:29
20F:推 ceca:CP25都跑动後攻击,很少ISO阿. 12/17 00:41
21F:→ magamanzero:掩护基本就两个看情况可能会有三个 算不少了 12/17 01:03
22F:→ vogue38:惨了不是有人说Lin iso比率很高吗LOL 12/17 09:18
23F:→ IBIZA:请问楼上谁讲的? 12/17 09:34