作者KenRock (He'll Be Back #7)
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标题Rockets Luncheon with Daryl Morey
时间Thu May 30 23:02:52 2013
Rockets Luncheon with Daryl Morey
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=239206
以上原文 & 以下参考翻译
莫雷与新赛季季票购买者的30分钟交流笔录
http://bbs.hupu.com/5699294.html
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I recently purchased some season tickets for next season and was invited to
a luncheon at Toyota Center where Morey talked for about 30 minutes.
To be honest, he didn't share much info at all but I'm sure some of you
are like me and will take any Rockets news you can get at this time.
我最近买了一些下赛季的季票,
并且被邀请到丰田中心的午餐会上跟莫雷交流了大约30分钟。
坦白讲,整个过程中他并没有分享太多的讯息,
但我相信某些球迷也会像我这样珍惜此次机会以吸取更多的新闻。
Daryl Morey:
Most of the team will be back next year.
We were the youngest team in the league.
Just by adding one year under their belt,
teams like ours will add 4 to 5 wins.
So where we want to be trying to get to next year is that 50 win range.
If we can add one of these significant free agents we feel like that
could potentially put us in the championship contention.
The models out there that we are similar to that we are trying to accomplish
are OKC which was similar to us, similar age, similar to us in everything.
Three years ago they lost 4-2 to the top seed just like us and then they
progressed very well from there.
The other team that has really done things the right way is Miami.
First when they only had Wade, who we think is equivilant talent to Harden
at a similar age, they planned their cap really well like what we are doing
right now and they were able to add Shaq.
Then they were very careful with their cap again when they added the players
they added this time(Lebron & Bosh obviously).
So that's sort of the plan, to go after some of the bigger free agents this year
and if we don't get them then carefully manage the cap to get us to the
50 win range with most of the players we have now and keep our flexibility.
We feel we took a big leap forward this season but we still feel we need to
take another big leap forward whether that is through trade or free agency.
莫雷:
明年所有的球队都会回到同个起跑点。而我们是联盟中最年轻的队伍。
靠这过去一年的经验值,像我们这样的球队会再多添得4~5场的胜利。
所以明年我们的目标是至少50胜。
如果我们能再增加一条自由市场上的大鱼,就我们自己的感觉而言,
我们将会变成冠军的潜在竞争者之一。
我们正在努力朝雷霆队的方向前进,视为模板。
有着类似的平均年龄,其它方面也都很类似。
3年前,他们一样也是2比4输给了西部第一种子,至那时起逐步地进步与提升。
另外一支也走在正确的方向的球队是热火。
一开始的时候,他们只有一个就我们感觉跟Harden天赋高度类似也年龄相仿的Wade,
然後他们就像我们正在做的一样,充分地利用他们的薪金空间,
去网罗他们的大个子—SHAQ。
而他们又继续非常小心地处理他们的薪资空间,并又网罗了其他球员。
(可能意指: LeBron James & Chris Bosh。)
所以那大概就是我们的计划:去钓更大的鱼,如果钓不到他们,
那麽我们就必须小心地处理我们的薪资空间,以便依靠现有的球员员争取到50胜之外,
还要能够保持薪资空间的灵活性。
我们本季有如已经往前迈进了一大步,但我们依然仍需要再往前迈进了一大步。
无论是透过交易,还是去网罗自由市场上的大鱼。
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(Disclaimer: I'm taking some liberties with my summary of the Q&A to save time)
免责声明: 我有权利用我自己的语言来简化问答过程以便节省时间。
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Q: The eastern conference is much easier than the western conference and
how does that get evened out?
东区分组球队比起西区分组球队来的更容易应付,要怎样才能够取得平衡呢?
A: It's not changing.
Really you have to look at the owners and the western conference has better
owners for the most part so the teams are better.
We just have to keep fighting.
Our goal is to win the title and even though our path will be harder
it's still the same goal. It is what it is.
这是不会改变的。
你真的必须看看出钱的人是谁,西区的老板大多比东区的老板来的更好,
所以他们的队伍也会更好些。
我们只能继续战斗。我们的目标就是夺取总冠军!即使那道路更难走。
但那是不变的目标,而事实就是如此。
Q: You are known for being a different type of GM but who are the people you
modelled you management style after?
你是球队总管界里着名的异类,而谁又是你学习效法的模板呢?
A: Primarily I did a lot of reading.
Probably reading Bill James and his ideas of how to build a team before
he was hired by the Red Sox.
Danny Ainge was a forward thinking, smart ,former player that I took a
lot from. And then Carol Dawson for one year.
The owner Les Alexander is the unsung hero that does a lot
behind the scenes. He consistently takes gambles on us
so we can accomplish big things.
首先,我必须说我做了很多功课。
特别是阅读红袜队经理Bill James,关於他如何建立一支球队的理念。
Danny Ainge是个具有前卫思考、聪明的前NBA职业球员,我也从他身上学习到很多。
然後我还有与Carol Dawson共事一年并且向他学习。
而老板Les Alexander则是个在幕後做了很多事的无名英雄。
他持续地在我们身上押注,所以我们才能有一番成就。
Q: Dwight Howard?
A: I can't answer that. Let's just say we are going after 2 of the biggest
free agents(obviously Dwight & CP3) and not being as agressive with the
others.
关於这点我无可奉告。
我只能说我们在追求着市场上其中两条最大的鱼(显然是Howard和CP3)
但对於其他人选,我们就不那麽积极了。
Q: Could it be a package deal?
会不会有有交易包裹呢?
A: There are some sort of very unlikely scenarios where that could happen.
But it's very unlikey because like 20 things would have to align for that
to happen. It would be very interesting but I have to live in the world of
getting things done and that is very unlikely to get done.
是有一些类似像这样,但看似不太可行的方案。
因为那就像必须同时完成其他20个条件去促成它发生。
如果真的发生了,那会是非常有趣的。
但我必须活在残酷地现实生活中,而现实上,那是非常不可能去完成的。
Q: Do you feel this team is one player or one draft pick away from
being a championship contender?
你觉得这支球队,离争冠是否只有一个球员或一个选秀签的距离?
A: Every team is one piece away and his name is LeBron.
But if it were one of the 2 free agents that I can't name it would
be significant.
Draft picks are unlikely bring help to us unless maybe it's a
rotation player but hopefully we won't have good picks.
We have to do like the Spurs who get guys like Gary Neal or players
like that. We need 1 more all star level player.
The likliest ways of that happening are first free agency,
then current player improvement, and least likely is through our draft pick.
每支球队都只缺一个人,而那个人叫LeBron。
但如果是那2条我无可奉告的大鱼之中的一条,那显然是大有可能的。
选秀权很难立即帮助我们提升,除非那是一个可以立即进入轮换的即战力球员,
但希望我们不会成绩烂到去取得乐透签。
我们必须向马刺学习,去得到像Gary Neal(落选新秀)或类似他这样的球员。
我们需要另一名全明星等级的球员。
而最有可能去获得明星级球员的办法,首先是自由市场,其次是等现有球员的成长,
机会最小的就是透过我们的选秀权。
Q: Thoughts on Thomas Robinson?
对於T-ROB的看法
A: He is actually here today(at the Toyota Center) working out.
We have high hopes for him. We normally wouldn't have the opportunity
to get a guy that was 5th in the draft and we are still high on him.
He came in a tough spot of the season.
This year we could have Dmo, Jones, TRob, Greg Smith, and potential
the Turkish player all fight it out to see who's best.
其实他今天有在这里(丰田中心内)训练。我们对他期望很高。
一般情况我们是没有机会得到一个第5号顺位的新秀的,
我们在他身上依旧抱有很高的期待。
他在赛季中期加入球队,这对他来说有点困难。
今年我们有Dmo, Jones, TRob, Greg Smith,和潜在的土耳其球员去竞争去较劲,
往後再让我们看看谁是最好的。
Q: Will F.Garcia be back?
A: We had to be careful with the cap so we had to let him go.
Later on in free agency we would like to bring him back
but it takes 2 sides to agree.
我们必须小心地处理我们的空间问题,所以,他必须离开。
但过些时候,我们愿意在自由市场将他签回来,但也要得到他的同意才行。
Q: What's plan B if you can't get Dwight or CP3?
当得不到HOWARD或CP3的配套措施
A: We would like to keep our flexibility and be open to other trades.
By the way, I want you all to know it's safe to buy Harden jerseys or
most all of our jerseys even though that has not been the case in the
last few years. But our goal is to go for the big dogs in free agency
and then be smart if that doesn't work to keep flexibility.
我们宁可保持我们空间的灵活性,然後寻求其它的交易。
顺便一提,我想你们都清楚买哈登的球衣最保险,又或者选择那些年我们追过的球衣,
即便过去几年的情况有所不同。
但我们的目标是去钓大鱼,即使钓不到,我们也会保持空间的灵活性。
Q: With guys like Aldridge and Love being free agents the following summer
is there any reluctance to spend this summer?
随着像Aldridge和Love在明夏将成为自由球员,
你们是否会因此不愿意在今夏浪费薪资空间?
A: Well that is an option. However, both of the guys you mentioned are
not free agents the following year but that doesn't mean they won't
come available because Harden wasn't a free agent either.
Anyways, it's so hard to get an elite player so we can't pass up
a big free agent in hopes of someone in another year.
We have Harden all the way til he is 28 years old and we don't want
to waste his prime. Look at the Blazers they were set up with Roy,
Aldridge, and Oden so we don't want to take anything for granted.
好,那也是个选择。无论如何,你介绍的这两个家伙明年都不是自由球员,
但那也并不意味着我们就得不到他们,因为哈登也不曾是个自由球员。
不管怎样,得到一名顶级球星是很难的,所以我们不能轻易忽视来年的大鱼。
哈登会伴随我们一起走到28岁,我们可不想浪费他的巅峰期。
你看看拓荒者队,过去他们把基石建立在Roy,Aldridge和Oden等人身上,
所以我们不想把话说得太死。
Q: What is team's biggest term to improve?
球队最需要改善的最大问题点?
A: We don't like locking into a position because that gets you in trouble.
The biggest need is an all star regardless of position except for
SG where we have Harden.
But our weakest spot is obviously PF but we don't want to bring in
an average guy that stunts the growth of the young guys and hurts
our flexibility.
我们不想限制会去得到在球场哪一个位置上的球员,因为那会带来麻烦。
无论哪个位置,只要不是坐拥哈登的得分後卫,只要是全明星的,能来就来。
但我们最弱的位置显然就是大前锋,但我们不想带来一个平庸的家伙,
那遏制了我们的成长,并且伤害了我们的薪资空间。
Q: What do you think of how Patrick Beverly took over for Lin?
对於Patrick Beverly取代Lin的想法?
A: Beverly played very well. I hate how Lin's season ended with the muscle pull.
Lin had an unbelievable season. Unfortunately most people only remember the
beginning and the end. At the start of the season jeremy struggled coming back
from knee injury and ended with the chest injury
but we are happy with how he played.
Harden won the most games for Rockets, then Asik, and then Jeremy and CP were
tied for third. So Patrick is going to be a nice rotation player for us at least
the next 3 years with a very high ceiling. But about Jeremy, not to be defensive,
but we were not expecting him to have 30 points a game 10 assists like he
did in New York so we are happy with how he played.
Beverly是打得相当不错。我也讨厌Lin的以肌肉拉伤结束球季。
但Lin已经表现出令人难以置信的一个赛季,不幸的是绝大多数的人只记住了开头和结尾。
赛季初Lin的挣扎全因膝盖手术的困扰,而他的赛季又以胸肌拉伤结束,
但我们对他的表现感到满意。
Harden替火箭赢得了最多的比赛,然後是Asik,再来就是平分秋色的Lin和CP。
所以我说潜力非常高的Beverly将会是我们未来三年内的一个很棒的轮换球员。
但关於LIN,并非为其辩护,但我们从未期望他能给予我们单场30分10次助攻的表现
——就像他在纽约时那样,所以我们对他的表现感到满意。
Q: Are other GMs afraid to deal with the Rockets?
其他球队的总管们,是不是怕了跟火箭交易?
A: No. Fortunetly, the egos in the NBA are really big so they are all
really confident in what they do and they should be since most
have accomplished more than the Rockets.
不。幸亏NBA里面,人人都自信满满,
所以他们对自己的所作所为都真的很自信,
而且他们也应该相信自我,因为他们都比火箭收获得多。
Q: How are you using the SportsView data that collects data on
player movement on the court?
你是如何使用SportsView的数据库,去蒐集场上球员的表现?
A: We have overhead cameras along with 10 to 12 others teams.
It's a lot of data and it can be used to analyze a lot of different
things but we'd like to keep that pretty quiet. Everything you can think
of we can track so it is a great advantage.
我们在10~12支其它的队伍球场上设置了各种摄录器材。
那是一大堆的数据呀,那可以用来分析不少的东西,但那是商业机密。
所有你能想像得到的东西我们都可以追踪与研究,所以那是个很大的优势。
Q: How attractive is Houston to free agents?
休城对自由球员的吸引力?
A: I always thought Houston was a great destination.
Between the state income tax, our presence in China,
and our players are guys other players want to play with.
You could argue that only 1 to 4 destinations in the NBA
are argueably better.
我总认为休城是一个理想的目的地。
这在於州税、我们在中国的影响力、以及我们这些球员之间良好的团队氛围。
NBA中只有1到4个地方比休城还要理想。
Q: Thoughts on Royce White?
对小白的看法?
A: We are hopefully but he is dealing with a lot issues
off the court. It was nice to see him on the court
during the 2nd half of season.
我们对他还有希望,但他在场下的麻烦实在太多了。
在下半季能看到他回来打球实在太棒了。
Q: What are long term plans for Chandler Parsons?
关於CP的长期计画打算?
A: (sarcastically) It's shocking that the first female that asks a
question asks me about Chandler. haha. But he is our starting 3 and
he is critical to our future.
I would extend his contract now if they would let me but the NBA rules
say I can't. He has at least 2 more years here and hopefully many more.
(语带讽刺地)太意外了,第一个问我问题的女生问的竟然是关於CP的问题!
哈哈!但他是我们的先发3号位球员,
他对於我们的未来很关键。如果我可以延长他的合同,我现在就想这麽干,
但NBA的规定是要我再等一等。他至少还有2年会留在这,希望会比这更久。
Q: Is Sergio Llull going to come over?
Sergio Llull会加入球队?
A:It was great that Les Alexander gave us money to buy 2nd round pick
a few years back to get him. Now the rules have changed so teams
can't do that as much. He is #1 guard in Spain.
Was MVP in one of the Euro cups recently.
He is for sure an NBA ready guy. He won't come over this offseason
but maybe the following one as his buyout gets lower.
Now with Lin and Beverly it would be unlikely he'd play right now anyway.
It's kind of admirable, he really wants to win a title in Europe and
he was close this year. Before he comes over, he sort of wants to
win big for Real Madrid's team because they brought him along this far
in his career.
慷慨的老板几年前给我们钱去买了选中他的二轮签。
但现在规矩改了,所以球队无法再这麽干。
而他是西班牙的第一後卫,是近期其中一届欧洲杯的MVP。
他肯定能立即适应NBA,并且是即战力。
这个休赛期他不会来,但也许下一次当他的买断价格降低後,我们会考虑。
当下我们有LIN又有PB,所以他现在来这打球的机会不大。
他值得我们尊敬,他真的想在欧洲夺一次冠军,他今年几乎就做到了。
在他到来之前,他大概想替皇马夺得一堆的荣誉,
因为是皇马把他的职业生涯带到如此高的地步的。
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I think Daryl didn't say anything that he wouldn't mind all of us
knowing so I feel okay sharing this with you all.
Again, there is no breaking news in here but it took a long time to
type it up so hope you guys enjoy reading it.
後记:我想莫雷并没有真的说些什麽,所以他不会介意我跟大家分享这些。
再声明,这里头没有什麽爆炸性的资讯,
但这花了我很长时间去整理与输入,希望大夥享受阅读。
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※ 编辑: KenRock 来自: 122.118.55.206 (05/30 23:03)
1F:推 fireunicorn:原来还有一个後卫在海外阿~ 05/30 23:13
2F:推 ninaman:谢谢K大转录翻译!!干!!里面笑点和弦外之音好多... 05/30 23:32
3F:推 nenpow:万分感谢!! 05/30 23:47
4F:→ KenRock:谢谢Shinn816吧,QQ 05/30 23:48
5F:推 jc0209:Llull就算来了 上场时间也会压缩很多 不如继续在欧洲等机会 05/30 23:54
6F:推 jc0209:看Morey这个暑假怎麽运作了 今年明年是组夺冠阵容最好时机 05/30 23:58
7F:推 magamanzero:其实这些如果是真话 那它透露出不少很多有用的东西 05/31 00:02
8F:推 iswearxxx:感谢同意:) 05/31 00:03
※ iswearxxx:转录至看板 Jeremy_Lin 05/31 00:04
9F:→ magamanzero:例如 没有得到CP3或DH PF这个位置很可能还是新人轮替 05/31 00:04
10F:→ magamanzero:除非它能带来只有两年约 但是不平庸的家伙!? 05/31 00:05
11F:→ KenRock:我看莫胖说法前後都蛮一致的 05/31 00:07
12F:推 shinn816:辛苦了 谢谢翻译 05/31 00:24
13F:推 beran:这篇很棒 很完整 05/31 00:36
14F:推 Queenie7:感谢K大辛苦翻译,从之前的发言一直看下来,Morey的态度 05/31 00:38
15F:→ Queenie7:真的从没变过....感谢详细的翻译!! 05/31 00:38
16F:推 ibise:我都忘有Llull了,还有,对於小白,Morey讲的是不是场面话? 05/31 00:47
17F:推 patrickleeee:感谢翻译 05/31 00:47
18F:→ ibise:我还颇希望小白能够克服自己的场下问题,只是恐怕很难吧... 05/31 01:05
19F:推 ghghfftjack:感谢翻译 05/31 01:05
20F:→ ghghfftjack:小白在联盟打得其实还算过得去 05/31 01:06
21F:→ ghghfftjack:虽然不算挺好但应该还是有潜力 05/31 01:06
22F:推 ghghfftjack:话说回来 德州免税的缘故....有可能用比较低的薪资 05/31 01:09
23F:→ ghghfftjack:签到DH吗? DH的薪水相对之下也不会比较少 05/31 01:09
24F:→ ghghfftjack:球队空间也会比较多 05/31 01:09
25F:推 patrickleeee:还是得看DH爽不爽才知道 05/31 01:43
26F:推 Aggro:他如果真的肯拿少一点 我就相信他真的想要冠军:Q 05/31 02:18
27F:推 jajaye:之前传的Cousins Millsap Al 大概都不会是莫雷想要的吧 05/31 07:18
28F:推 AssetDebt:请问"潜在的土耳其球员"是指谁阿?? 05/31 08:35
29F:→ AssetDebt:是指Asik还是另有其人? ? 05/31 08:35
31F:推 shinn816:不是Asik 应该是 Furkan Aldemir 05/31 08:56
32F:推 xajx:"其他人是不是都怕了跟火箭交易" 这问题和答案都很有趣XDDD 05/31 09:06
33F:推 darlenechen:我很好奇如果CP3来了球权要怎麽分配? 05/31 09:07
34F:推 jc0209:之前说Aldemir下一季会出现在名单内 不知道是不是真的 05/31 09:12
35F:推 peterwu4:路过推一个,看起来林书豪下个球季还蛮安全的XD 呵~ 05/31 11:38
36F:→ KenRock:除非CP3来。。 05/31 11:39
37F:推 neoage:Millsap和Al看来都不是莫雷的首要目标 还是老话 抓DH 05/31 11:53
38F:推 jc0209:跟当初追DH的阵容比起来现在好太多了 有机会当然先收伏DH 05/31 11:57
39F:推 kendiablo:CP3想也知道不会来,就算真的来了,请胡子转型成WADE XD.. 05/31 12:06
40F:→ neoage:CP3不会来+1 跟DH不一样 在快艇待那麽快乐又有话语权又是 05/31 12:11
41F:→ neoage:球队老大 根本没有理由不拿5年合约来火箭拿4年 05/31 12:12
42F:推 jc0209:他有说待在那快乐吗... 05/31 12:19
43F:推 shinn816:拿到DH後 用Asik+xxx去弄来 J.Smith 比较现实吧 05/31 12:26
44F:→ KenRock:Josh不是UFA吗? 05/31 12:32
45F:推 jc0209:嗯啊 所以难讲~ 话说Smith中距离是不太稳吗? 05/31 12:35
46F:推 shinn816:如果他不坚持要求顶薪的话 可能机会不小 05/31 12:40
47F:推 shinn816:可以跟老鹰商量先签後换 05/31 12:44
48F:→ and1hotsauce:先签後换用Asi+XXX弄来Josh Josh+DH组麻吉连线 05/31 12:52
49F:→ and1hotsauce:希望哈登能说服Josh降薪来火箭合体组巨头 05/31 12:53
50F:推 ts0821:比起签鹰王..我比较推签阿拓的JJ.H + 签回老贾.. 05/31 12:55
51F:推 and1hotsauce:JJ H的中距和防守怎样 如果不错确实可以考虑 顺便签 05/31 12:57
52F:→ and1hotsauce:回老贾增加板凳深度^^ 05/31 12:57
53F:推 and1hotsauce:T-Rob交易出去顺便半买半送小白吧 看能不能换回首轮 05/31 13:04
54F:→ and1hotsauce:签 哈 05/31 13:05
55F:推 jc0209:如果Josh真的会来 DH也应该降一点吧... 不然薪资太紧 05/31 13:06
56F:→ jc0209:怎麽你在总板说次轮 在这说首轮 05/31 13:08
57F:推 kendiablo:JJ防守很惨,不过考量到今年他打的是C,对他有点不公平 05/31 13:09
58F:→ kendiablo:跳投有5成,但是样本有点少,虽然他数据上有两双,但是总 05/31 13:10
59F:→ kendiablo:签两双的价格来火箭打大後锋,数据大概会掉到7分5板之类 05/31 13:11
60F:→ kendiablo:如果是这样的发挥那就没必要花大钱买,不如补板凳或者超 05/31 13:12
61F:→ kendiablo:即第六人,比较不会有体系适应问题 05/31 13:13
62F:推 and1hotsauce:抱歉 打错了 想一想 T-Rob好歹是首轮第5就算再贴个 05/31 13:16
63F:→ and1hotsauce:小白也不至於换到次轮...如果DH和Josh都要来火箭 05/31 13:16
64F:→ and1hotsauce:也许他们好交情会愿意降薪喔 05/31 13:16
65F:→ and1hotsauce:不过要先确定DH要来才有搞头 05/31 13:17
66F:推 chenlansue:Morey抢不到DH CP应该就不会抢一些B咖 等明年FA吧 05/31 13:25
67F:→ black2453:Morey对Josh也很有兴趣呀 前提是他不拿顶薪... 05/31 14:01
68F:推 thanos:果然跟版上的大家预测的一样 火箭先丢T-Rob清空间准备抢DH 05/31 14:21
69F:→ thanos:接下来小白和D-MO危险了? 05/31 14:21
70F:推 jc0209:希望这两只能留着... 05/31 14:25
71F:推 neoage:所以火箭的A计画就是先清空间抢DH 抢到以後再把Asik打包换 05/31 14:27
72F:→ neoage:Josh? B计画抢不到DH的话 直接签Josh或把希望放在未来选秀? 05/31 14:28
73F:推 qoomilk:Josh接近15M Asik8M 认真的吗...凑完板凳7M然後薪资卡死 05/31 14:32
74F:→ qoomilk:没板凳之後 先发四人DH+Josh+哈登+Lin接近60M 未来高富帅 05/31 14:32
75F:→ qoomilk:也要接近10M,然後没板凳....这样会比较好吗? 05/31 14:34
76F:→ qoomilk:现在光要凑出DH顶薪清板凳约4M出来 还要Asik+硬挤6~7M 05/31 14:37
77F:→ black2453:不觉得Morey会硬凑三王耶 凑失败会不上不下很多年 05/31 14:40
78F:推 thanos:但我还是搞不太懂 莫雷把DH签过来 这样阿西跟DH位置就重复 05/31 14:42
79F:→ thanos:如果要把阿西丢出去换个PF进来 市场上又没什麽相对好的PF 05/31 14:43
80F:推 qoomilk:Josh今年打的真的没很好 另外DH+Josh这是要被骇客骇到死吧 05/31 14:43
81F:→ thanos:虽然JJ便宜 不过跟阿西的防守还是差多 丢出去换感觉是火箭 05/31 14:43
82F:→ qoomilk:目前薪水最符合 又还不错且年轻的就JJ阿 05/31 14:44
83F:→ thanos:吃亏 目前还想不到值得丢阿西去换的PF Al就不用说了 虽然 05/31 14:44
84F:→ thanos:很棒 不过我不觉得爵士会想要阿西 05/31 14:44
85F:→ qoomilk:Asik篮下让给DH後,难道要他去高位投外线?还是8M当板凳... 05/31 14:45
86F:→ thanos:丢了阿西觉得换不到什麽PF 但自留又跟DH相冲 05/31 14:45
87F:→ thanos:阿西现在有点像鸡肋 05/31 14:46
88F:→ qoomilk:Asik现在不丢 先少磨合机会一年 接着Asik数据会被DH压更低 05/31 14:46
89F:→ thanos:是非丢不可...但问题就感觉换不到相对等级的PF... 05/31 14:46
90F:→ qoomilk:今年DH会来 就快把先发板凳组好快磨合了 时间就2~4年冲冠 05/31 14:47
91F:→ thanos:如果爵士要阿西的话 一定果断丢阿西换AL 05/31 14:47
92F:→ qoomilk:所谓相对的PF是指AGG这种等级吗 05/31 14:47
93F:→ qoomilk:爵士不会要Asik 他们会放米爷留AL 然後AL也是打低位跟DH冲 05/31 14:48
94F:→ thanos:不用到那麽高 但至少攻防都要不错 Al+DH是最棒的组合 05/31 14:48
95F:→ thanos:完全互补XD 05/31 14:48
96F:→ qoomilk:今年最好的货就是Josh 但是实在太贵了... 05/31 14:48
97F:→ thanos:唉 所以才说可惜 换不到Al换米爷就没意思了 05/31 14:49
98F:→ qoomilk:AL哪里互补.....完全相冲吧 你要DH去高位还是AL去高位 05/31 14:49
99F:→ thanos:我觉得换米爷不如换JJ算了 把钱拿去补板凳还比较好 05/31 14:49
100F:推 jc0209:结果换Cousins来 囧 05/31 14:50
101F:→ thanos:Al有中距啊 PF不就是最好找个有中距的 05/31 14:50
102F:→ qoomilk:所以我才说拿JJ+板凳比较好了 05/31 14:50
103F:→ thanos:这样空间可以拉比较大 哈登会比较好切啊 05/31 14:50
104F:→ thanos:算来算去 可能就只能选JJ+板凳这包了 05/31 14:51
105F:→ qoomilk:如果只要中距离 D-MO三分可以拉更大... 05/31 14:51
106F:→ qoomilk:我是觉得会挡拆的比较实在 帮哈登和Lin小组配合 05/31 14:52
107F:→ thanos:D-MO防守比Al更破 DH可能会补防到死 囧 05/31 14:52
108F:→ qoomilk:DH战术也可以把板凳三分群摆上来印塞澳 05/31 14:52
109F:→ qoomilk:AL防守也没有很好.... 05/31 14:52
110F:→ thanos:Al防守没到很好 但至少比D-MO好多了 至少还是个肌肉棒子 05/31 14:53
111F:→ qoomilk:觉得嘎受已经是借镜了 嘎受也有中距离 但不是想的这麽简单 05/31 14:53
112F:→ thanos:D-MO要练壮一点啊 对抗性真的太差了 05/31 14:54
113F:→ thanos:@qoomilk大 你觉得DH来火箭机会大不大? 05/31 14:55
114F:→ qoomilk:签AL只为了他中距离+普防守 封锁他中距离...反正爵士不放 05/31 14:56
115F:→ qoomilk:非常大....大到我之前就有说过 05/31 14:56
116F:→ thanos:真的很怕 空间都清出来了 结果又说不来了 Scola白特赦了 05/31 14:56
117F:→ qoomilk:14242 我之前就有说了 最好人选就是JJ 05/31 14:57
118F:→ qoomilk:Scola也没有白特赦 至少今年阵容整个换新+年轻阿 05/31 14:57
119F:→ thanos:DH多赏点脸 如果真的加盟火箭 我就买块2K14来玩 XD 05/31 14:58
120F:→ thanos:但我觉得Scola特赦还满可惜的 感觉好像把低位高手白白送给 05/31 14:58
121F:→ thanos:太阳 囧 05/31 14:58
122F:推 jc0209:不过这样年轻PF的时间会被压缩很多... 05/31 15:00
123F:→ black2453:表弟进攻超全面好吗 问题只在脾气差+爱投中距离 05/31 15:01
124F:推 qoomilk:Scola年纪也不小 当时虽然觉得很干 但有哈登等核心觉得赞 05/31 15:01
125F:→ jc0209:如果没抢到 Morey会腾出空间等明年的自由球员 05/31 15:01
126F:→ treerivers:表弟算了吧 我怕他来会破坏休息室气氛 DH虽然名声臭 05/31 15:02
127F:→ treerivers:不过那也只是因为他犹豫不决让人反胃 其实他人还满好 05/31 15:02
128F:→ treerivers:相处的 05/31 15:02
129F:→ qoomilk:国王真的要放表弟应该是要乐透签 而Asik他们看不上眼 05/31 15:02
130F:推 thanos:表弟强是强 不过他的态度... 05/31 15:03
131F:→ black2453:不过我不觉得国王会放走表弟&TE 05/31 15:06
132F:推 qoomilk:国王不会丢的 就算脑残丢也是跟骑士换状元签...他还新人约 05/31 15:07
133F:→ qoomilk:我到觉得可以想想板凳该补谁了 05/31 15:07
134F:→ black2453:今年的状元签跟炸弹一样,前几顺位的天份都差不多 05/31 15:08
135F:→ black2453:除非怕被拦胡,骑士要丢也要费饭心思 05/31 15:09
136F:推 jc0209:替补可能就要看剩下多少空间吧 05/31 15:10
137F:推 cpla1017:话先别说太满 等抢到DH再来思考补强还不迟 火箭也不是稳 05/31 15:11
138F:→ cpla1017:操胜算 DH搞不好来个回马枪 看在钱和市场的份上还是留在 05/31 15:12
139F:→ cpla1017:湖人好了到时候就囧了 05/31 15:12
140F:推 jc0209:钱的话不是说前4年合约德州球队比较有优势吗 05/31 15:13
141F:→ cpla1017:根据他过往的模式来看 不是没有这种可能的 05/31 15:13
142F:推 qoomilk:无论是钱还是球队未来 都是火箭比较有利 05/31 15:13
143F:→ qoomilk:4年後DH还是可以签最後大约 这四年已经比湖人多8M薪水了 05/31 15:14
144F:→ cpla1017:就算德州免税 还是留在LA钱多啊 多一年3000万耶 免税了不 05/31 15:14
145F:→ cpla1017:起给你800万好了 还是乐胜2100万 更别说LA市场比HOU大多 05/31 15:15
146F:→ qoomilk:湖人的第五年 以及DH换约的第一年 随便22M+原本8M就赢了 05/31 15:15
147F:→ cpla1017:少了 他那麽爱秀又爱大舞台的人会错过LA吗? 有点存疑 05/31 15:15
148F:→ qoomilk:场外收益...要不要看看今年DH再LA场外收益多少? 05/31 15:16
149F:→ cpla1017:但这也要确定他可以再拿到大约吧 至少在湖人是稳稳拿的 05/31 15:17
150F:→ qoomilk:留在LA被Kobe迷干巧 被湖人记者骂臭头这样 然後先摆滥一年 05/31 15:17
151F:→ cpla1017:再怎麽说 LA的机会还是比HOU大多了 广告代言、表演... 05/31 15:18
152F:→ qoomilk:DH还需要确定拿大约??今年风风雨雨这麽大哪支球队不顶薪签 05/31 15:18
153F:→ qoomilk:就跟你说自己去看今年DH在LA的场外收益 05/31 15:19
154F:→ cpla1017:我不是说不希望DH来 只是权衡一下 其实他留LA也不小 05/31 15:19
155F:→ qoomilk:LBJ最高 在来跟第二名的KB就有差距 第三名差更多 05/31 15:19
156F:→ cpla1017:我知道他在LA场外收益减少 但谁晓得未来呢? 搞不好他续约 05/31 15:20
157F:→ cpla1017:湖人後就洗白了也不是没可能 还是别太乐观 怕像当年魔术 05/31 15:20
158F:→ qoomilk:光经济人把高富帅跟DH凑一起拍广告 这已经在铺路了 05/31 15:20
159F:→ cpla1017:迷一样满怀希望结果被泼了冷水 05/31 15:20
160F:→ qoomilk:当时魔术迷谁泼冷水? 每个都希望他滚 05/31 15:21
161F:→ cpla1017:如果能这样就太好 我也是希望他来HOU 在湖人真的太痛苦 05/31 15:21
162F:推 jc0209:其实待在哪都有可能啦~ 05/31 15:22
163F:→ qoomilk:依照目前状况是不会选湖人 但是也许米奇大动作整理球队 05/31 15:22
164F:→ qoomilk:就另当别论 05/31 15:22
165F:→ jc0209:留在湖人要忍一年 不过明年空间非常大 只有Nash有合约(吧?) 05/31 15:23
166F:→ qoomilk:Kobe除非退休 不然还不是跟Nash差不多的约卡在那 05/31 15:23
167F:→ cpla1017:不 其实当时他还没放话要去篮网前 魔术球迷都认为他会留 05/31 15:23
168F:→ cpla1017:下来的 05/31 15:24
169F:→ qoomilk:而且湖人还是继续是Kobe的球队 05/31 15:24
170F:→ qoomilk:他就是开始放话演剧场开始 每个都希望他快滚结束这剧 05/31 15:24
171F:→ cpla1017:所以DH还没放话要来火箭前 还是先别太兴奋 怕他到时候 05/31 15:25
172F:→ cpla1017:又说还是续留湖人 05/31 15:25
173F:→ jc0209:火箭的话本身阵容已经不差了 年轻又很有竞争力 05/31 15:26
174F:→ qoomilk:不会太兴奋阿 大不了把钱拿去给Josh 等於今年阵容+Josh 05/31 15:26
175F:→ qoomilk:有DH是能立刻在西区夺冠本钱 没有核心都年轻5年都有机会 05/31 15:28
176F:→ black2453:他跟魔术是被大范爆料才导致关系破裂吧 05/31 15:31
177F:→ black2453:魔兽人生第一季时,他可能真的想留在魔术 直到... 05/31 15:32
178F:推 jc0209:而且球队气氛跟化学反应来看 火箭好多了 05/31 15:35
179F:推 and1hotsauce:想不到现在是火箭拿到DH希望比较大 看国外民调火箭 05/31 15:36
180F:→ and1hotsauce:拿到DH机会是最高的 大概有70%的人认为DH会到火箭 05/31 15:36
181F:→ and1hotsauce:湖人球迷好像对DH续留都满悲观的 想不到一个季後赛 05/31 15:37
182F:→ and1hotsauce:打完 情势居然反转 如果之前说DH要离开湖人 一定会被 05/31 15:37
183F:→ and1hotsauce:说做白日梦 05/31 15:38
184F:→ and1hotsauce:如果之前说火箭有机会拿到DH 一定会被笑 05/31 15:39
185F:推 qoomilk:当时他要钱也要冠军 魔术就是没冠军 才会去湖人不鸟火箭 05/31 15:40
186F:→ qoomilk:现在湖人跟火箭一样都有钱 但是湖人不但没冠军还要重建 05/31 15:40
187F:→ and1hotsauce:恩 要重建也要等到2014了 而且能不能抓到大咖重建顺 05/31 15:41
188F:→ qoomilk:他会当好人把巅峰4年留给湖人带小弟拉拔重建? 05/31 15:42
189F:→ and1hotsauce:利都还是未知数 更别说还要磨合的问题了 DH应该没那 05/31 15:42
190F:→ and1hotsauce:耐心陪公子练球XD 05/31 15:42
191F:→ qoomilk:明年摆滥有DH拿的到签也许前三顺位都没有 後年才开始重建 05/31 15:42
192F:→ and1hotsauce:还有Kobe都受伤了 下一季能不能回来都还不知道 而且 05/31 15:43
193F:→ and1hotsauce:也不晓得他状况能不能回到以前 都是未知数啊 05/31 15:44
194F:→ and1hotsauce:DH如果续留湖人 明年大概整支球队都要靠他撑了 05/31 15:44
195F:→ and1hotsauce:如果打得差 压力一定可想而知非常巨大 05/31 15:45
196F:→ and1hotsauce:火箭几乎摩合差不多了 直接加进来 完全体就形成了 05/31 15:46
197F:推 ts0821:Lin,胡子,高富帅,(Hickson or Millsap),DH @@! 05/31 15:50
198F:→ lucifer1C1:.我看到上面有人说DH留在湖人的话多一年3000万大胜 05/31 16:37
199F:→ lucifer1C1:德州免税多得的800万.... 05/31 16:37
200F:→ lucifer1C1:...这是拿税前的进帐跟税後的进帐做相比.... 05/31 16:38
201F:→ lucifer1C1:那3000万实拿可能只有一半1500万而已.. 05/31 16:41
202F:→ lucifer1C1:在火箭前四年可多拿800万..如果DH在四年後还健康的话.. 05/31 16:42
203F:→ lucifer1C1:续约第一年算2300万左右好了,实拿算1300万就好... 05/31 16:45
204F:→ lucifer1C1:1300+800 == 2100万...同样干5年..至少多赚600万... 05/31 16:46
205F:推 neoage:到火箭比续留湖人还赚 实质$$多更多 阵容比湖人年轻还要有 05/31 16:54
206F:→ neoage:竞争力和前瞻性 DH快来啊~~~ 05/31 16:55
207F:推 jc0209:欠东风了 05/31 16:59
208F:推 RollingWave:太极高手XD 06/01 12:22
209F:推 RAYBO:莫雷对Lin的评价还真高呀~~有看比赛的球迷应该也会感觉到 06/02 02:31
210F:→ RAYBO:Lin组织真的很有"灵性" 也越来越进步了 06/02 02:33