SB★Nation之火箭队季後赛特别报导(八) Jeremy Lin seeks to rediscover Linsanity for the Rockets in the playoffs By NVP http://0rz.tw/Hegvr ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 已校稿完毕，有疑问请在推文提出，感谢。 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ March 31, 2012. That was the day Jeremy Lin had to address the media and the public, announcing that he needed surgery to repair a torn meniscus in his left knee, effectively ending his season. 2012年3月31号。 LIN正式向媒体宣布:他因为左膝盖半月板软骨撕裂伤，需要进行修复手术。 等同於本季报销。 After he had pretty much single-handedly recaptured the magic that was basketball in Madison Square Garden and brought the New York Knicks back from certain doom, Jeremy Lin was done for the season, and, as it turned out, his career. 如同单手挥舞着魔术棒施法般，他在麦迪森花园广场将尼克队从世界末日救了回来。 LIN是因此而受伤的，也因此影响到他的职业生涯。 It all starts here, with that sense of helplessness and regret on the sidelines. A year ago, Jeremy Lin had to watch the team that made his career run into a brick wall against the heavily favored Miami Heat while enduring the whispering doubts about his injury, his commitment, his ability, and yet again his career crop up with the incessant and relentless New York media. His body betrayed him, and all he could do was watch and pray for a chance of redemption. 一年前，LIN带着无力感与後悔坐在板凳席上， 只能在季後赛看着球队如同撞上红砖墙般与冠军大热门迈阿密热火队对抗。 而此时，他必须忍受着人们窃窃私语地质疑他的伤势，他的责任，他的能力。 当然还有喋喋不休的纽约媒体。 他的身体背叛了他，而他唯一能做的就是祈祷一个救赎的机会。 这一切都是从这里开始的。 That chance has come, albeit in a slightly different form than he would have imagined. A year later, Jeremy Lin is back in the playoffs, this time fully healthy and in a red jersey. Instead of facing the best of the East, Jeremy Lin gets to take on the best of the West. A lot has changed since last year, but the only one that really matters is that Jeremy gets to play in April this year. Jeremy Lin is healthy, and that alone makes all the difference in the world. 这个机会来临了，即使与我们原本的想像有些许的差异。 一年後，LIN回到了季後赛，而这次他是完全健康的穿上火箭队的红色球衣。 与去年球队面对东区最强队伍有点雷同的地方: 这次面对的是西区最强的雷霆队。 这一年多来，其实都有很多机会。 但唯一有意义的是这次LIN的季後赛处女秀。 而LIN这次是健康的，光这点够了。 From a basketball standpoint, Jeremy Lin did not set the world on fire like many predicted, but he certainly did not disappoint either. He put up respectable numbers for a starting point guard in a system where a lot of ball control goes to James Harden, and he continuously worked to find a way to coexist with Harden maximize his talents. He ended the season averaging 13.4 points, 3 rebounds, 6.1 assists, but the average does not reflect his progress. After starting out the season absolutely abysmally, Lin ended the season on a groove, improving his numbers each and every month since the beginning of the season. Now, Lin is set up to be the ultimate X factor in what remains of the playoffs. 以一个篮球专业的角度来看。 LIN并没有如预期的大鸣大放，但他确实也没有让人失望。 即使很多的球权都掌握在Harden手上， 而LIN也还是以一个先发控卫的角色出赛了相当多的时间。 他也持续着找方法试着与Harden共存，并尽量将他的才能最大化。 本季他的场均数据: 13.4Pts + 3Rebs + 6.1Asts，但...这并不能反映出他的成长。 至从季初糟糕的表现开始，LIN就像倒吃甘蔗般地结束这个球季，他几乎每个月都在成长。 在存活到季後赛的球队和球员之中，林书豪是最大的X factor。 Like any X factor, Jeremy Lin has distinct strength and weakness in every facet of his game that, dependent on the situation, makes him either the most dangerous player on the court or the most problematic. 就像任何一个X factor，林书豪在比赛中的各个面向都有显着的优缺点， 根据场上的状况，他可以是最能威胁对手的球员也可以是队上最有问题的球员。 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Breaking Down Jeremy Lin 深度剖析 Scoring:Strength 得分能力:优点 Do not let the modest point per game fool you; Lin can score, and he can do it on anybody. Lin has a very quick first step that can get him by anyone on a dead drive to the rim, and that speed is one of the biggest strengths of his offense. His initial speed is better than freak athletes like John Wall at 13.93 mph, and his top speed of 18.85 mph exceeds that of Kyrie Irving's 18.75 mph. 别被不起眼的场均得分骗了。 LIN确实是有得分能力的，他有着非常快的第一步，让他能够在任何人面前切入上篮。 而这个是他所有进攻优势中最重要的。 他的启动初速甚至比劲爆体能John Wall的13.93 mph还好。 而LIN的最快纪录是18.85 mph，胜过K.Irving的18.75 mph。 (*注: mph - 英里/每小时 = 约为公里/每小时的1.6倍。 换句话说，LIN的启动速度大约是30km/hr。) Despite a still somewhat limited offensive arsenal, Lin can put up points with ease. He is capable of breaking out for double digits in as little as 5 minutes by simply attacking the rim. A significant portion of his shot attempts are short-range shots (where he shoots 58%), with nearly 40% within the restricted circle. He favors the right side, exploding much better off his left leg. If you can get to the rim consistently in the NBA, you can find a way to score, even if your jump shot is suspect. 尽管进攻手段仍嫌不足，而LIN是有轻松拿分的能力的。 他能够只用攻击篮框，就在短短五分钟之内飙到双位数的分数 很重要的原因是: 他一大部分的出手是在近距离(58%的命中率)， 同时将近40%的出手来自於进攻免责区以内。 而他最喜欢使用他较有爆发力的左腿来右切。 在NBA联盟，如果你持续地攻击篮框，那你就能找到得分的方法。 即使你的跳投能力是不稳定的(受到质疑的)。 Lin is also a much improved 3 point shooter. Despite shooting 29.7% for the first 3 months of the season, he finished the year shooting nearly 34% from 3, including 3 straight 40+% months. Because of his improved 3 point shooting, Jeremy Lin produces 0.97 points per play from spot up situations. Jeremy can make teams that game plan by leaving him open pay for their mistakes. 而LIN本季在3PT%上面有显着的进步。 即使开季前三个月的3PT% = 29.7%，但本季场均是拉高到接近34%。 这还包含到连续3个月保持在40%以上的3PT%。 也因为如此，LIN在SPOT UP(定点跳投)这个项目上的PPP是0.97Pts。 因此他能让那些针对他放投不放切的球队，付出代价。 Scoring:Weakness 得分能力:缺点 With that said, jump shots have been a weakness in Jeremy Lin's game this season. Jeremy only shoots 34% on his jump shots this season, a far cry from his excellent 40% mark a year ago. Among starting point guards this season only Ricky Rubio, John Wall, Avery Bradley, Russell Westbrook, and Goran Dragic have lower eFG% on their jump shots than Lin's 42.6%. Although some believe that his choice to take more 3 point shots negatively impacted his numbers, Jeremy also shoots only 35% on 2 point jumpers, far below his excellent 44% as a Knick. 跳投能力一直本季LIN的一项缺点。 他今年跳投的命中率只有34%，与去年优秀的40%相比是大幅退步。 本季所有的先发後卫群中，只有R.Rubio，J.Wall，A.Bradley，R.Westbrook， 和G.Dragic的跳投eFG%比LIN的42.6%低。 即使有些人认为这是因为本季投了比较多三分球的关系。 但实际上，今年的两分球跳投命中率只有35%，也是比去年优秀的44%大幅退步。 (*注: eFG% = (FG+0.5*3P)/FGA = Effective Field-Goal Percentage。) 简单说就是将投进的三分球次数作加权，而FG本身就包含三分球，多的0.5就是加权。 就是多投进1颗3PT，等於多投进1.5颗FG。原意是让三分球的效益能够在FG%上突显出来。 There are few areas that he shoots above average percentages in, but many more where he is below average, particularly on the left side. A major reason is that Jeremy Lin decided to rework his mechanics over the summer, and the new form has not fully set in yet. Many fans have noticed that Jeremy Lin shoots differently in the game than he does in pre-game workouts. The high arching shot that Jeremy Lin takes is a tough one to gain consistent distance and roll, and over the course of the season Jeremy has had consistency issues with that shot. 附上LIN的跳投分布图:http://0rz.tw/RBfXB 承上图，他的投篮在几个区域有平均以上的命中率， 但命中率在平均以下的区域却多更多，尤其是在球场左侧。 而主要的原因是LIN在曾在季前调整过他的姿势，而这个新的形式尚未完全。 许多眼尖的球迷发现，当LIN在比赛时的投射姿势与赛前热身不同。 高弧度的投篮让他投出去的球，不容易有稳定的飞行距离和旋转， 这种出手方式让他整季一直有投篮稳定度的问题。 As good of a scorer as Jeremy Lin can be, he has a tendency to be very passive at times. There are games where he takes less than 10 shots. If he is not aggressively attacking the rim, then his shortcomings become very obvious. While it has improved, his off-ball movement still often lacks purpose. He often makes maybe 1 cut across the lane then floats off to the corner. When he does get the ball in his hands, he has a tendency to pass off opportunities to score. 像LIN这种有得分能力的人，他有时也会表现的很消极。 在某些比赛中，他甚至不超过10次的出手。 如果他不积极地攻击篮框，这将会放大他的缺点。 而当他改进这点时，他的无球跑动又缺乏目的性。 他时常从一边的底线空手切到另一边的底线後，停留在底角。 而当他真的拿到球时，即使是空档，他又时常把球传出去。 Although Lin has elite speed, he doesn't have the elite elevations and wingspan to finish above the rim like Wall and Westbrook. He's also not the most creative finisher around the rim, often opting for a direct lay-up or reverse. His elevation and hang time may not be where it once was after the his surgery, which diminishes a lot of his ability for more athletic finishes. A good shot blocker can really bother Jeremy's offensive game. 即使LIN有绝佳的速度， 但他却没有如同WALL或是WESTBROOK的顶级弹性与臂展，能让他在篮框上方完成攻击。 并且他在篮框附近的攻击手段，并不是最有创造力的，他时常选择正面或反向的上篮。 他的弹性与滞空能力也许比不上膝盖手术之前， 削弱了他在某些更需要运动能力来完成的动作的出手能力。 而一个具备好的封阻能力的防守者，能够让LIN在进攻端上很头痛。 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Playmaking:Strength 组织能力:优点 Jeremy Lin and James Harden are far and away the best playmakers on this team. Harden's ability to score off of the pick and roll and make skip passes to the open 3 point shooter produces a lot of easy baskets both at the rim and from the perimeter. Lin, however, has demonstrated better ability to read the court and movement than Harden, recognizing mismatches and cutters much earlier in plays and making the right pass. Jeremy Lin leads the team in most passing stats: 6.1 assists per 36 minutes, 497 total assists, 29% assists rate. 3.2 of his 6 assists per game leads to shots at the rim. 无庸置疑的，LIN跟HARDEN是队上两个最佳的进攻组织者。 Harden有运用P&R去得分或者传球给3分空档的队友，去制造非常多内外线轻松得分的能力。 然而，LIN展现比Harden更优秀的阅读比赛和掌握队友动向的能力， 他能更早的看出错位防守或空手切入的队友并且做出正确的传球。 LIN的场均助攻数是全队最佳的6.1次，总共送出了497次助攻，而Ast%则是29%。 场均约6次的助攻中有3.2传到篮下。 (*注:原文是说PER 36MINS = 6.1 ASTS，但查过以後是6.8次。 而6.1则是场均。http://0rz.tw/U7iuA ) Lin's ability to read movements especially shines when he's making outlet passes in transition. Word of advice, don't challenge Jeremy to a game of Angry birds or Gunbound; his ability to calculate trajectory is uncanny, especially to a moving target. Time and again, Lin is able to get the ball in the back court, look down court and throw a perfect pass over the top to a streaking Parsons or Harden for an easy 2 points in secondary break or transition. LIN的动态判读力会在攻防转换时所传出的远距离助攻上绽放光芒。 给对手一个建议，不要在愤怒鸟与坦克王游戏中挑战LIN。 他有着不可思议的精准计算传球行径轨道之能力，尤其对於一个移动的目标。 不知道多少次，LIN总是能在二次快攻或攻守转换时，从後场一拿到球後， 往前场看了一眼，便传出完美的幅度，将球交到裸奔的CP或是Harden手上， 并得到轻松的两分。 Lin is at his best when he's putting pressure on the defense with his drives early in the offense. With his speed, even if he does not get a shot off at the rim, he often opens up another driving lane for the next ball handler until a quality shot appears. Harden may embody our drive and kick offense, but Lin really embraces and executes it. There are many instances when the offense runs stagnant, and Lin is often able to re-energize it by doing his part as the initiator of offense. LIN在进攻早期利用切入压迫防守，这是他发挥最好的时候 靠着他的速度，即使没有出手投篮机会，他也为下一个持球者清出一条血路与得分机会。 Harden也许是火箭切传进攻的基石，而林书豪则是彻底拥抱并执行它的人。 本季里有许多进攻呆滞的状况， LIN往往能做好他开起进攻契机的角色去活化球队的进攻。 Playmaking:Weakness 组织能力:缺点 As a Harvard Economics major, Jeremy Lin must have missed the class on risk management. Lin has the propensity to go for difficult plays regardless of timing, which gets him into trouble from time to time. For every nifty globetrotter-esque passes he makes, there is a head scratching turnover to match. Decision making and court vision on the move is a constant work in progress for Jeremy Lin, and though his assist to turnover ratio is much improved from a year ago, but he still ranks in the bottom among NBA point guards at 2.11. 身为一个主攻经济学的哈佛高材生，他一定(没修到)翘掉风险管理课程。 LIN会没有顾虑到时间问题而顷向去选择一些困难的动作，而这造成他一次又一次的麻烦。 他每一个成功的哈林篮球队式传球背後，都有一个让人抓破头皮的失误。 场上的决策与动态视野将是LIN并需持续不断精进的项目。 即使他的AST/TO比=2.11，已经相较去年进步很多。 但他的排名仍在联盟的控卫来说较後段班。 People forget that Lin played shooting guard for the majority of his life. While he is a good passer for a shooting guard, he lacks the disciplined and mindset that most point guards spent their whole life to gain. With Harden taking much of the ball handling possession, there is a constant struggle in Lin's mind about what to do with his own possessions, which takes away from both his scoring and his playmaking. Both he and Harden really do their best playmaking as scoring threats, but the preconceived notion that Jeremy is a "point guard" has at times hurt his play on the court. 人们忘了其实LIN大部分的篮球生涯都是打"得分後卫"。 虽然以得分後卫而言他有着不错的传球能力， 但他仍然缺乏那些大多数控卫花长时间培养出来的素养和心态。 在Harden掌握多数球权的情况下， LIN往往因为挣扎於如何处理自己的球权，而降低他的得分和创造能力。 因为LIN也是需要高持球才能得分与进攻组织的球员。 事实上，LIN跟HARDEN都是靠本身的得分威胁性去创造最大的进攻组织效益， 但"LIN = 控球後卫"的预设立场，有时会伤害他在球场上的表现 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Defense:Strength 防守端:优点 Jeremy Lin is an underrated defender. He's a tall point guard that's surprisingly strong at 6'3" 200 lbs, which gives him an advantage defensively. He often shocks the guards foolish enough to attempt post play by standing his ground and limiting them to poor fadeaways. Unlike Harden, Lin has displayed excellent basic fundamentals on the defensive side, always staying low to the ground on defense with his hands up. He's a cautious defender that works very hard at keeping his man in front of him, and has nights where he forces point guards into poor shooting by limiting their passage to the paint. Point guards that have success against Lin, are typically doing it over the top. LIN的防守能力是被低估的。 他是一名高大型的控球後卫， 而有着惊人的6'3"高度与200lbs的体重，这让他在防守端保有优势。 那些傻到想背框单打林的人往往会被他扛住然後只能勉强向後跳投。 与Harden不同的是:LIN在防守端展现十分杰出的基本功， 而且总是能够压低重心，并利用双手高举作出防守态势。 LIN他是一个十分谨慎的防守者，而且非常努力的将对位球员保持在他的正前方。 在某些比赛里，他压迫到对位後卫的切入禁区行径路线，而造成对手糟糕的命中率。 在LIN的防守下有好表现的控卫，通常都得在他面前把球投进。 On top of his solid fundamentals, Jeremy Lin is an above average thief, ranking 8th in the NBA with 1.65 per game. He's very good at anticipating the passing lane, and often he reaches right as opponents make their moves. Jeremy plays with very active hands, but he's often good enough that he does not foul. 在扎实的防守基本功之上，林还有优於平均的抄截能力: 高於一般水平的场均抄截1.65次，排名联盟第八。 他在预测与判断对方传球路径上非常的在行，他往往能在对手出招的瞬间下手抄截。 林防守时双手从不闲着，但他又能够不造成犯规。 Defense:Weakness 防守端:缺点 Lin has some physical advantages on defense, but he also has disadvantages. While Jeremy is very fast north to south, he's not great from side to side. His wingspan is only average for his size and not conducive to reach past players' bodies. As a result, Jeremy has often played to contain dribble penetration by playing a step further off the opposing point guard, and really has had to put his sole attention on his man when he's defending on ball. LIN在体型上有着优点，相对地也有着缺点。 他有着优异的直线移动速度，但他的横向移动并不优异。 以他的体型来说，他的臂展长度仅仅算是普通的， 没办法越过对手护球的身体去抄球。 因此，林常常在守对方的控卫时多退一步的距离来防止切入 同时他在对球防守时也必须把专注力完全放在自己守的人身上。 He does not try to engage his mark until they get close to the 3 point line, which hurts him when he has to guard a lightning quick guard that can make up the ground in an instant or a point guard that shoots well. Screens and off ball movement often give Lin trouble as the distance he plays at forces him to either trail or go under screens, and the attention he has to put forth on the ball decreases his ability to anticipate screens. LIN在防守时，除非对方接近到三分线附近才会开始压迫。 造成他面对速度快到像是能缩地或篮子准的控卫时会有麻烦。 对手的掩护或无球移动往往会让LIN感到棘手， 因为他防守时多退的距离让他不得不尾随防守对像或是要从掩护下方绕过， 同时他必须完全专注在自己守的人身上，也降低了他预测掩护的能力。 而他对球的注意力会减低他对方想要掩护(单挡)的预测能力。 附图: http://0rz.tw/3nfLE 比较PB与LIN与防守者间的距离。) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keys to Jeremy Lin's success: Consistency and Aggressiveness J.LIN的制胜关键 : 稳定与积极性 Pretty much everything mentioned above comes with one caveat: how aggressive is Jeremy Lin? Lin struggles with what I like to call the "Lamar Odom Syndrome". Unlike the more prevalent "Ricky Davis Disorder" where a role player behaves like a superstar, those that suffer the "Lamar Odom syndrome" are all star talents who have role player mentalities. There are more successful and famous players that exhibit the same symptoms, such as Rasheed Wallace, but none is more representative than Lamar Odom. 几乎所有内文的都总结到一个论调: J.LIN到底有多积极? 本季LIN的挣扎状况，我都习惯比喻成"Lamar Odom并发症": 指得是有角色球员心态和明星球员天分的人。 而不是普遍流行的"Ricky Davis失调症" : 当一个角色球员表现的像超级明星时。 其实有非常多有名的球员都患有这种"Lamar Odom并发症"，而R.Wallace就是一个例子。 但没有比Lamar Odom本人更有代表性的案例了。 Odom is a physically gifted, highly skilled power forward/small forward that can pretty much do it all as a basketball player, yet he has never been more than a 3rd option on a team and has had a wildly up and down career. His mentality has greatly impacted his consistency throughout his career Odom是个身体条件优异且技术高超的3/4号球员，他在球场上无所不能。 但他最好也不过是球队的老三，而且有着剧烈起伏的生涯表现。 在他的球员生涯里,心态一直对他的表现有很大的影响。 This is a different problem than knowing whether or not he can play. Lin knew all along that he can play, or else he would not fight like hell to get where he is. 这不是一个球员到底能不能打的问题。 LIN一直都知道自己是个能打的球员，否则他不会拼死拼活地努力到达今天的阶段。 However, never in his wildest dreams did he imagine he could be a star in the NBA, which he was for a brief 25 game period. As quickly as that magic appeared, it disappeared when Jeremy went down with the knee injury. And even before he went down with his injury, his shine was quickly wearing off playing with Carmelo Anthony and JR Smith. Lin knew he belonged in the NBA,but he didn't realize what his identity was in the NBA. It turned out,he's more of a star and less of a role player. 然而， 他也从没想到在上季短短的25场比赛後，有一天他会美梦成真，成为一个NBA明星球员。 遗憾的事，当奇蹟发生时，没过多久LIN就受伤并且需要接受膝盖手术。 而在他受伤之前，他的光芒早已瞬间因Melo的伤後归来与JR.Smith的加入而黯淡。 是的，LIN知道他属於NBA，但他尚未了解到他在NBA联盟中的定位。 结果在火箭打了一季後发现，比起角色球员，他更应该是明星球员的类型。 He's still struggling with his identity. Much of his consistency issue comes with his mentality. Lin is a different player when he's aggressive, and the difference is so stark that you wish the non-aggressive player never existed. It's one thing to defer to James Harden, a star, but Lin at times has deferred to the likes of Chandler Parsons, Carlos Delfino, Patrick Patterson, even Daequan Cook one game, people Lin really has no business deferring to. When he sacrifices his game for, frankly, lesser players, it does nothing to help the team. Lin is at his best playing aggressive, attacking the rim and taking shots without hesitation. 他现在仍然挣扎着再找寻着他的定位。 而他大部分表现不稳定的状况，应该来自他的心理状态。 当LIN保持积极度时，他会变身成为另一个十分突出的球员。 优异到你会希望，他一直都能保持着积极的状态，源源不绝。 在一场比赛中，把球权让给像Harden这样的明星球员是一回事。 但有时候牺牲球权给像CP或CD或者PPT，甚至是D.Cook，这些除了Harden之外的球员， 又是另外一件事情。 因为: 他根本不需要。 像他这样为了，讲难听点，能力较差的队友，牺牲自己的球风是没有办法帮助球队的。 LIN只有"打球积极，攻击篮框和有自信又不犹豫的投篮"时，他才能表现最佳的状况。 His confidence elevates when he scores, and his attack opens up his passing to other players. Aggressive Jeremy Lin also puts pressure on the opposing players to match his production, which can force them into mistakes. He does have a tendency to go out of control at times compounding mistakes upon mistakes, but it should not deter him from playing aggressive. 当他得分时自信心也会跟着提高，而且他的进攻会为他打开传球机会。 有侵略性的LIN同时也能造成对位者的压力，因为不想被LIN比下去，而导致自己失误。 或许有时候他会失控而犯下错误， 但他仍然需要保持打球的侵略性而不是停止。 It is unfortunate that Lin doesn't want to take control of the ball sometimes, because when he does, everyone is better for it, including Harden. Desperation does not just fuel Lin, It has become almost a crutch. It is not coincidental that Jeremy Lin seems to come through in the hours of need, it is predictable. Those are the times Lin decides to rid himself of his own mental shackles and just play his game. LIN有时不愿意掌握球权对球队来说是件不幸的事。 因为当他愿意时，包括Harden在内的所有人都能打得更好。 绝望不只是LIN的养分，它甚至支撑着LIN。 LIN往往能挺过必须有所表现的紧要关头绝非巧和，而是必然会发生的事。 因为在那些时刻，LIN决定抛下心中的枷锁，照自己的本色去打球。 I once compare Jeremy Lin to the Incredible Hulk. Mild manner Bruce Banner who becomes one of the most powerful being on Earth, yet fears greatly of losing control as the Hulk. Hulk is not as bad as people think he is. He's saved the world multiple times, and he's an Avenger. Sure, he's not as brilliant as Bruce Banner, and yeah, there is some collateral along the way, but he's an overwhelming force of nature that does good most of the time. Embrace your Inner Hulk, Jeremy Lin, and unleash destruction upon your enemies. 我曾经把LIN和绿巨人浩克做比较。 个性温和的Bruce Banner突然变身成世界上最有力量的人， 然而又害怕变成脱缰野马的浩克。 浩克并不是像人们想的如此的坏，他曾拯救了地球无数次， 而他也是复仇者联盟的正义使者之一。 当然，他并不像Bruce Banner如此聪颖，也有些附带的缺点。 但，他总是利用势不可挡的超自然力量去做善事。 Jeremy Lin，拥抱你心中的浩克吧! 挣脱心中的束缚，勇敢地去毁灭你的敌人。 -- J.LIN#7 @ RedNation Go Go ROCKETS!! --

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