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标题[外电] Why is Houston’s defense still bad?
时间Tue Mar 19 23:07:58 2013
原文连结:
http://www.red94.net/focusing-defensive-lapses/11976/#more-11976
Why is Houston’s defense still bad?
By MICHAEL PINA | MARCH 18, 2013 at 10:00 AM
为什麽火箭的防守还是很烂?
Since Donatas Motiejunas entered Houston’s starting lineup, that particular
five-man unit has allowed just 95.6 points per 100 possessions. It’s an
elite figure, but the sample size is far too small to attribute it any
meaning.
自从D-MO被拉到先发後,这个5人组合让对手平均每100次球权只得95.6分。这是一个蛮
出色的数据,但是样本数太小所以也没什麽意义。
Motiejunas has played only 11 games with Jeremy Lin, James Harden, Chandler
Parsons and Omer Asik beside him on the court. Here are the teams they’ve
gone against: Nets, Wizards, Bucks, Magic, Mavericks, Warriors, Suns, and
Timberwolves. Two of those teams boast top 10 offenses (barely), two are
average, and the remaining four all find themselves ranked at or near the
bottom.
D-MO跟林、哈登、帕帅还有阿西同时在场上的时候只有11场而已。以下这些是他们过去
几场所面对的队伍﹕篮网、巫师、公鹿、魔术、小牛、勇士、太阳以及灰狼。其中有两
只队伍在进攻方面排名前十,还有两队在平均值左右,剩下的那几队不是垫底就是倒数
几名。
For this entire season, Houston’s defense has been inadequate. Despite
harboring one of the four or five best defensive centers in the game, along
with a few players on the perimeter who can be disruptive on the ball, the
Rockets have yet to figure out a consistent method to slow opposing offenses
down. They allow 104.3 points per 100 possessions, making them the 10th worst
defense in the NBA.
这一整个球季,火箭的防守一直都是不及格的。除了拥有在防守上前四或前五的中锋以
及少数几个能在外围干扰球流动的人以外,火箭并没有找出一个稳定的方法来阻止对方
的进攻。他们让对手每100次球权得到104.3分,这是联盟里防守第十差的排名。
The good news is that most of their problems are correctable, or so it would
seem. A vast majority of the open shots Houston allows are due to various
mental mistakes: ball watching, losing track of shooters, failing to know
when it’s time to shoot the gap and when it’s time to stick to your man,
needlessly helping in the paint when proper help is already there.
好消息是,他们大部分的问题都是可以改善的,至少看起来是如此。大部份火箭让对手
所跑出来的空档都是来自於他们各种心态上的错误﹕只盯着球看,跟丢进攻者,不知道
什麽时候要扑出来阻止对方或是什麽时候要紧贴着对方,在禁区里不需要协防的时候跑
来协防。
These are all mistakes the Rockets make constantly, but all can be fixed.
They don’t require an upgrade in skill or personnel, but more a change in
mindset when it comes to defensive discipline. The Rockets are the youngest
team in the league, so to watch them still endure growing pains shouldn’t be
a surprise. Here are several examples.
这些都是火箭一直不断在犯的错误,所幸这些都可以被修正。不需要在个人或技巧上面
去提升,只需要在防守准则上改变他们的心态或是习惯。火箭是一只联盟里最年轻的球
队,所以看到他们还处於阵痛期一点也不意外。以下是一些例子。
(图片连结)
http://www.red94.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Lin-at-free-throw-line.png
Here we have Jeremy Lin standing at the free-throw line, leaving his man,
Ricky Rubio, wide open behind the three-point line on the left wing. He’s
there to help prevent a wide open driving lane for Timberwolves center Greg
Stiemsma, who’s operating a side pick-and-roll with Luke Ridnour.
在上图我们可以看到林站在罚球线上,离开他该防守的 Rubio,让他在左侧的三分线上
有一个大空档。林站那边是要防止灰狼中锋 Stiemsma在跟Ridnour挡拆後有空间可以切
入。
Knowing the situation, is this really necessary? Let’s say Stiemsma catches
the ball in motion at the right elbow. Then what? Even if Lin isn’t there,
there are two back line defenders (Motiejunas and Parsons) plus the
quick-footed Asik there to help. Also, Stiemsma isn’t good.
看了这种情况,林站在那边真的是必要的吗?假使,Stiemsma真的接到Ridnour的传球,
然後呢?假设林不站在那边,後面还有两个防守球员D-MO跟帅哥,还有脚步不慢的阿西
也可以补防。再说,Stiemsma的进攻能力并不好。
Here’s what happens:
接下来发生的情况︰
(图片连结)
http://www.red94.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Lin-getting-backscreened-2.png
Timberwolves forward Dante Cunningham sets a back screen on Houston’s
unsuspecting point guard, and Rubio is sprung for a wide open three ball. To
Lin’s credit, this isn’t the most egregious play, being that Rubio is
shooting less than 20% on three-pointers this season. But that doens’t mean
he couldn’t position himself better.
灰狼前锋Cunningham作了一个掩护挡住了火箭状况外的控卫,Rubio得到了一个大空挡。
对林来说,这或许不是很糟糕的一球,因为Rubio本季的三分球命中率低於百分之二十,
但这并不表示林不能站在一个更好的位置上。
The first clip of this article features James Harden, Houston’s best
offensive player and worst defensive player. We’ve seen this type of
indifference from him all season. This play in particular is alarming, but
easily preventable if he wants to prevent it.
哈登是这篇文章第一个短片的主角。他是火箭最强的进攻者也是火箭最差的防守者。在
本季我们已经看过太多次他这种不在乎的防守态度。灰狼这波进攻是个警讯,但如果哈
登愿意的话他也可以轻易的避免这种错误。
(Harden leakout)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k7Cf_TRaVcg
Rubio takes a contested pull up jumper on the right side of the lane, and off
Harden goes, out past the three-point line looking for a quick fastbreak
opportunity. As the Timberwolves grab the offensive rebound, Harden is still
backpedaling towards the other end. Why? Well, he wants the easy basket on
the other end, that’s why. And if you’ve ever played basketball before, can
you really blame him? The play results in a wide open mid-range jumper for
Luke Ridnour; the type of shot he could swish with both eyes closed while
fixing a sandwich.
Rubio 在右边急停跳投後,哈登已经开始偷跑了到三分线想要来个快攻。但是灰狼抢到
进攻篮板,哈登还是往另一边跑,为什麽?好吧,因为他想要跑快攻,就这样。而如果
你有打过篮球你会去责怪他吗?这个结果是Ridnour在中距离有一个大空档, 让他可以
一边闭着眼睛把球投进篮框然後一边作三明治。
More on Harden later.
後面再来谈哈登。
The next guilty party is Chandler Parsons, a player whose great overall
skillset is often overlooked thanks to an uber-team friendly contract. In his
rookie season Parsons began to make a name for himself as an incredible
on-ball defender, and his work on Kobe Bryant and Kevin Durant drew praise
from both players.
下一个要谴责的是高富帅,一个非常全面的球员却因为佛心来的合约而常常被忽略。在
他的新人球季,他已经为他自己打出名声,一个防守持球者防的非常出色的球员。他在
防守Kobe或是Durant上都得到来自这两人的赞许。
This season Parsons has taken a minor step back on the defensive end; most of
it is due to his random action away from the ball.
本季他的防守有些退步,这是由於他在离球的远端时有些不知所谓的动作。
(图片连结)
http://www.red94.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Parsons-drops-down-.png

Rubio has barely penetrated past Lin and his reward is a rushed look at a
snarling Asik. Look where Parsons is standing. Why did he drop so low,
leaving Mickael Gelabale beyond wide open on the perimeter? (Gelabale is
shooting 52.5% on the season.)
Rubio仅仅只是切过林,而他要面对是虎视眈眈的阿西。看看Parsons站在哪,他为什麽
要沉到那麽低的位置而让Gelabale在外围有一个大空档呢?(Gelabale本季命中率是5成
25)
The play ends with Minnesota taking full advantage of Parsons’ mistake.
Rubio swings the ball to Gelabale, who passes it to a wide open Stiemsma on
the baseline after Parsons retreats for a late close out. Stiemsma sinks the
shot.
灰狼充分利用了帅哥这个防守上的失误。Rubio传给Gelabale,等到Parsons扑出来时再
传给空档的Stiemsma投进两分。
But Parsons’ troubles don’t just come with weakside help. Here he is later
on guarding Gelabale. Rubio sets a pin down screen but instead of following
his man above it, Parsons cuts beneath, then unnecessarily runs into a second
screen set by Stiemsma. Here’s the play:
帅哥的问题不只是弱边协防,以下是他稍後防守Gelable的情况。 Rubio在底线作了一个
掩护,帅哥选择从Rubio下方(左边)穿过,而不是上方(右边),然後又往一个根本不需要
去的掩护冲去。
(Chandler Parsons screen trouble)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MSx_h-PwvqY
(Before we finish up with one more play from Harden, I’d like to point out
that the Rockets would be in the lottery if not for his work on the offensive
end. Harden’s defense needs work, sure, but his effort with the ball is an
irreplaceable commodity, and it’d be an honest shame if he didn’t end up in
fourth or fifth place in the final MVP ballot. For all the gushing praise
Dwyane Wade and Kobe Bryant receive for their play this season, Harden
undoubtedly belongs in their class at the shooting guard position. Okay, now
back to jumping on his defense.)
(在我们以另一个哈登的防守情况作为结束前,我想要说明一下,如果没有哈登在进攻端
的作用,火箭有可能只能在乐透区里面。哈登的防守的确需要努力, 但他在持球进攻上
有无可取代的价值,而最後的MVP票选上如果他没能排在第四或第五将会是一件很遗憾的
事。对比本季人们对Kobe跟Wade源源不绝的赞美, 哈登毫无疑问在SG这个位置上是跟他
们同一等级的。)
(图片连结)
http://www.red94.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Wandering-Harden.png
If I hadn’t already pointed out the play where Harden leaks out instead of
staying with his man, could you even guess who he’s supposed to be guarding
right now? Look at it in real time:
(Harden Wanders)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rGQ0YvWcPqU1
如果我先前没有提到谁是哈登漏掉的人,你可以猜到那一个是他该防守的人吗?
Harden is helping on a Stiemsma roll to the basket, but similar to the Jeremy
Lin play from before, is his positioning a bit dramatic? As Rubio takes a
dribble to the left, Harden hades more towards the middle of the court even
though Motiejunas is already in the paint. Meanwhile, Harden’s man, once
again Ridnour, drifts to the corner. Completely ignored. The ball is
eventually swung to him and he hits the shot.
哈登帮忙防守Stiemsma以防他冲向篮框,但就像之前林那个情况一样,他所站的位置会
不会有点尴尬?当Rubio往左边运球时,哈登却越来越往禁区中间靠过去,即使 D-MO已
经站在禁区也是一样。同时,哈登要盯的人,同样又是Ridnour,往底角移动。 他完全
被忽视,球传过来然後他投进一个三分。
All these decisions by Houston’s defenders come with the strategy of packing
the paint, disallowing penetration or anything easy near the rim. But they
also all come with Omer Asik on the court, and what’s the use in over
helping when you have a guy like that protecting the rim? (Asik is out on the
perimeter guarding pick-and-rolls in a couple of these examples, but if the
Rockets are so concerned with their interior defense in these situations
maybe they should have Asik sag below the free-throw line to help contain the
ball-handler whenever the opposing center isn’t all that great a risk of
popping out for a jumper.)
火箭这些防守球员所作的这些决定都是基於把禁区堵住这个策略,不容许任何球员切入
或是靠近篮框简单得分。但在他们作这些决定的同时,阿西也在场上;当你有一个像阿
西这样可以保护篮框的球员时,这些过度协防有何用处? (某些情况,阿西会出来帮忙
防守挡拆,但如果火箭真的这麽在意在那种情况下他们内线的防守,在对方中锋跳投能
力不是很好的情形下,他们可以让阿西在罚球线以下游离去帮忙防守持球者。)
Some of these open shots might be the result of scheme, but others simply aren
’t smart basketball. Even after the Rockets make their run at a secondary
All-Star caliber player, if they don’t clean up their defensive miscues a
championship won’t be in the cards.
有一些空档是对方设计战术所跑出来的,但有一些空档却是不聪明的打法所致。即使火
箭已经有了第二个有明星水准的球员,但如果他们不解决他们防守上的失策,他们将永
远无法获得冠军。
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1F:推 kusami:真的 超爱协防底角常被射爽爽 03/19 23:20
2F:推 kd1523:有时候防守也只是赌注而已,巩固禁区也有本身的价值 03/19 23:23
3F:推 gunng:耐心 要有耐心 理察帕....我说麦克海尔 03/19 23:24
4F:推 olivelee:谢谢翻译~防守真的要加油啊 03/19 23:31
5F:推 KenRock:Good & thanks 03/19 23:31
6F:推 iswearxxx:感谢翻译:) 03/19 23:34
7F:→ iswearxxx:借转 谢谢:) 03/19 23:37
※ iswearxxx:转录至看板 Jeremy_Lin 03/19 23:37
※ 编辑: salazopyrin 来自: 219.85.99.141 (03/19 23:50)
8F:→ RollingWave:其实已Rubio 的命中率让他wide open才是正解吧XD 03/20 01:15
9F:推 erotica:3pt 30%的林书豪你让他Wide Open 也会变成40+% 03/20 01:27
10F:推 clydeli:感谢翻译!! 03/20 06:25
11F:推 doomster562:简单来讲,火箭盯人不确实 03/20 11:13
12F:→ forttryon:用这场对Rubio来当范例不太合适 放他头应该是策略 03/20 11:17
13F:→ forttryon: 投 03/20 11:17
14F:→ forttryon:然後昨天看完对勇士 发现裁判都不太抓MOVING PICK 03/20 11:18
15F:→ forttryon:对防CURRY造成不少困扰 03/20 11:18
16F:推 JimmyBlue:火箭防守不好是可以想像的,因为要花一半的精神赌快攻 03/20 11:57
17F:→ JimmyBlue:而且还要发动一堆赌博性抄截或包夹制造快攻机会 03/20 11:58
18F:→ JimmyBlue:SG跟PF都旋转门,C跟PG要一守二,SF单防可是要随时偷跑 03/20 11:59
19F:推 xajx:协防是火箭战术之一, 也不能完全说是"防守不好" . 03/20 12:02
20F:推 JessicaA1ba:最近Rubio突然变靠北准...不是以前的他啊... 03/20 13:32
21F:推 raykuwata:协防要看对位,如果对手後卫进攻能力薄弱或外线差,巩固 03/20 14:11
22F:→ raykuwata:禁区是对的,Asik不常离开禁区,因为他的防守篮板是火箭 03/20 14:13
23F:→ raykuwata:的优势(另外也因为火箭PF篮板能力差),相对的防挡拆就很 03/20 14:14
24F:→ raykuwata:惨,禁区大个子不能提上来做阻延 03/20 14:15
26F:→ noral:虽是以暴龙为例 看数据派的防守主张 火箭显然也朝同样方向走 03/20 18:27
27F:→ noral:看来莫雷不仅在进攻端实践他的数据篮球 在防守端同样也颠覆 03/20 18:27
28F:→ noral:既有的"This is my guy"对位防守概念 以团队协防为主 03/20 18:28
29F:→ noral:(ps. SportVU原本是军用侦测系统 现在被运用在职业赛场上 03/20 18:28
30F:→ noral:上季NBA有10队在主场安装了这套系统 这季有15队 已达半数 03/20 18:28
31F:→ noral:火箭很早就采用SportVU 但在实际应用上 莫雷一直讳莫如深) 03/20 18:29