作者SMALLZCH (嗯嗯嗯)
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标题[情报] 这个夏天 BONZI很快乐
时间Mon Oct 8 23:41:23 2007
转自HOOPCHINA
尽管Well四周前在浴室不慎滑倒拉伤了腹股沟之後影响了训练营的表现,但是至少可以肯
定的是,这个夏天,他快乐了起来。"球员就应该做自己。"Wells说,"你?必要太过担忧
。上赛季,主教练总是规定我们该做什麽,而不是让我们尽情地比赛。Adelman不会这样
。他会让你上场,犯一个小错误根本?有关系。当你犯错的时候,你不用心惊胆颤。你不
用害怕会被大吼大叫。教练的风格决定了球队的气氛。"
"这里不是大学。这里是职业球场。我们都是男子汉,不是吗?要用男子汉的方式对待我
们,这样我们就会像男子和一样拼搏。"
"目前Bonzi的状态让我很欣慰。"Tracy McGrady说,"他很轻松。他参加训练营时的体型
保持得非常好。他减掉了30磅,很明显,他非常在乎新的赛季。"
上赛季,Bonzi仅仅打了28场比赛,场均7.8分4.3篮板,41.1%的命中率也是降到了生涯最
低。"那不是真正的我。"Wells说,"教练在选择球员的时候有一些独特。他会告诉我们'
你能做的只是投篮,你只准在低位单打。你只准做这个,你只准那样做'。"
"那不是篮球……那毫无创造力。根本没有发挥出所有人的?能。"Wells继续侃侃而谈,"他
或许能成为一名不错的教练。但是他没有能力引导像我这样一个成熟的球员。我不怕他,
我就是这样当面对他说的。"
"我必须承认,(我的糟糕表现)也不光是教练的原因。"他说,"也有我自己的因素。但是
想想看,我损失了4000万美元。这总是我心头的一块大石头。"
"他是球队的重要一部分。"Adelman表示,"当你让他上场打球,他在篮下的爆发力会非常
可观。他在国王的时候打得很不错。他是个非常出色的进攻篮板手。当Tracy不在场上的
时候,他就是那种能在大多数时候保持强点的球员。他非常强壮,他能为球队提供大量的
帮助。Bonzi在我们的进攻体系中效率非常高。他?有理由不为球队发光发热。"
这篇文章的原文也被贴在clutchfans上
有好几个外国网友发表了好些言论十分中肯精辟
HOOPCHINA的大陆网友也把他们翻译了
以下
#4
that's why i feel he put so much pressure on tmac and yao. he thinks everyone
else is so one-dimensional that only tracy can create and things like that.
like wells said, JVG prollie categorized bonzi as a post up player and if he
didn't do that well, he has no use. same w/ vspan, if he turns the ball over,
he has no use.
if u don't give them encouragement, they're not gonna try hard.
"这就是为什麽我觉得JVG把太多的压力放在了YAO和TMAC身上,他认为这个队上的其他人
都是单一功能的球员,只有TMAC可以创造机会。
就像WELLS说的,JVG把他定位成低位球员,如果他没做好这项工作,那他就没有任何用处
。对於SPAN,情况也是如此,如果他失误了,那他就一无是处。"
#5
if Bonzi is a grown man like himself claimed, he'd be professional and report
to camp in shape last season. have you seen Pop yelled at Ginobli?
"如果BONZI真像他自己所宣称的那样是个男子汉,那麽去年他去训练营报道时就应该表现
得更加有职业精神,保持好自己的体型。"
#9
I suppose this was to be expected. The easiest people to bash are the ones
that are no longer around.
When JVG was hired, he was lauded for fixing the poor culture of SF/Mobley
doing whatever the hell they wanted on the court. Now we're using the
euphemism "letting the players play their game" to say how awesome it is that
players will be allowed to do whatever the hell they want, which was exactly
what we didn't want 4 years ago. I suppose when Adelman is fired and we hire
a disciplinarian like Larry Brown the talk will go the other way again.
"我料想到了情况会是如此,砖块往已经离开的人身上招呼是最容易的了。
当雇佣JVG时,他因为约束了SF3和MOBLEY在场上的为所欲为而受到了赞赏。现如今我们又
开始用一个冠冕堂皇的说法'球员就应该做自己'来代替'为所欲为',於是以前的那种'为
所欲为'又重新变得正大光明了。我料想着等我们将来解雇ADELMAN请来LARRY BROWN当教
练的时候,如今的这套又要重来一遍。"
#10
I think Bonzi has it backwards. He wants to be treated like a grown man, but
grown men know how to take orders. JVG ran the team like an army, Bonzi had
to know how to follow. It's not a coaches job to stroke a player's ego when
they show up non-committal and out of shape. That's on Bonzi, first and
foremost.
Remember why Adelman got fired from the kings? Their excuse was that he
didn't coach any defense. His response? "They should have given me more
defensive players." You're looking at two opposite approaches when it comes
to JVG and Adelman. RA tailors his gameplan to the player, JVG wants the
player to stick with his. If JVG were coaching that kings team, they would
have played defense. In 05/06, we had real defensive stalwarts like Alston,
Head, Swift, and Juwan playing major minutes and we were still one of the
best defensive teams in the league. Maybe RA could get more out of his
players if his vision wasn't limited to their natural talents.
I don't want to get into who's the better head coach. Sometimes, good players
and coaches just don't see eye to eye and I don't think either side deserves
the blame. Bonzi just isn't a JVG player. And don't even bring up Vspan. That
guy complained about having to play too much man D. If he's got a problem
with that, he's not even an NBA player.
"BONZI希望得到男子汉的待遇,但一个男子汉知道如何服众。JVG管理球队如同管理军队,
BONZI必须知道如何听从指挥。一个球员带着一身肥肉出现在训练营,来能指望教练去捧他
哄他满足他那点所谓的"自尊心"吗?
记得ADELMAN为什麽在国王被解雇吗?国王队的理由是他的防守训练不佳。ADELMAN的回应
是什麽?'他们应该给我提供更多的防守型球员。'由此你可以看出ADELMAN和JVG是两种不
同类型的教练,前者根据球员制定战术,後者要求任何球员都达到他的要求。05赛季我们
用ALSTON, HEAD, SWIFT, HOWARD这种水平的防守球员,仍然打出了联盟中最好等级的防
守。
我不想介入'谁是更好的主帅'这种争论。有时候好的球员和好的教练无法相互适应,我不
认为在这种情?下任何一方应受到指责。BONZI不是适合JVG的球员,如此而已。SPAN还是
不要提了,他抱怨球队采取了太多人盯人的防守策略,如果他无法应付这个,那他很难成
为一个NBA球员。"
#14
Bonzi said letting the players play their game , what I think he meant is
that Adelman is trying to make it easier and he plays more to their strengths
, it's within his system on offense but they still get chances to do what
they do best each player.
With JVG for Example he had more defined roles and he didn't play to players'
strengths as much.
For example Alston had to shoot so many three's , yes it's because the double
teams but find a way so that this player will not need to shoot so much when
he is not a good shooter.
Snyder didn't play because he couldn't shoot and missed defensive rotations ,
we were a jumpshooting team so Snyder can't play.
Both Yao and T-Mac thought Snyder should play more and could have helped us
but he didn't fit the T-Mac and Yao creating everything and the rest just
shooting system.
"BONZI所说的'球员就应该做自己',我认为真正的意思是ADELMAN善於利用球员的长处,
在他的进攻体系中有一定的规则但球员仍有机会用自己最擅长的方式。
而在JVG的体系中,BONZI需要按照教练规定的方式去打球而无法展现自己最擅长的部分。
ALSTON被迫射了许多3分,当然这是为了减轻对手对YAO和TMAC的包夹,但为什麽不能找到
一种方式让不擅长投射的ALSTON减少投射呢?
SNYDER得不到上场时间,因?他投篮不佳而且在防守轮转中容易漏人,我们是一支跳投球
队,所以SNYDER没有机会。
YAO和TMAC都认为SNYDER应得到更多的机会,但因为他不能适应'YAO和TMAC创造一切,其
他人只管跳投'的体系,所以被荒废了。"
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1F:推 sealyoyo:写的不错 真的挺中肯的 10/09 00:57
2F:推 rockshow:有没有双教练制啊? 一个进攻一个防守不就超强(误) 10/09 01:08
3F:推 reccatsai:我也想过楼上这个问题... 10/09 01:57
4F:推 orange7:如果用BONZI这点来评估JVG 会不会太不厚道.... 10/09 04:15
5F:推 SMALLZCH:这只是讨论教练的风格啦...毕竟JVG这些问题真的存在 10/09 09:14
6F:→ Caster:「凝聚团队」是教练工作的一部份,严格的教练如Pop,莱里 10/09 10:38
7F:→ Caster:当初在活塞的L.Brown都很能凝聚团队向心力,这方面JVG差了些 10/09 10:38
8F:推 orange7:如果用SNYDER来讨论JVG用人不够大胆 我承认 是他胆小 10/09 10:46
9F:→ orange7:但是以一个不会控制体重又打不好的人 那我想有欠缺公平吧 10/09 10:47
10F:推 barkleyc:看到Bonzi说自己是成熟的球员觉得有点好笑 =.= 10/09 11:14
11F:→ Hawke26:"He can probably be good and coach kids. 10/09 11:16
12F:→ Hawke26:But it's tough for him to coach a grown man like me. 10/09 11:17
13F:→ Hawke26:I ain't scared of him. I told him that to his face." 10/09 11:18
14F:→ Hawke26:体重没控制,训练营没来,然後当面呛教练"老子没在怕你" 10/09 11:18
15F:→ Hawke26:然後是因自己觉得损失了四千万所以这种工作态度 10/09 11:21
16F:→ Hawke26:来 力宏哩供跨卖啊~~ 10/09 11:24
17F:推 DDMO:楼上久没出现,一出现就中肯XD 10/09 11:48
18F:推 Dinki:Wells今年皮要绷紧点,嘴炮就免了,打不好看你明年拿什麽约 10/09 12:23
19F:推 susugu:wells自己有问题 JVG领导带人上也有问题 一个巴掌打不响 10/10 00:01
20F:推 k7117836:现在是怎样?批斗小范? 没有他姚明不可能有现在的低位 10/10 01:52
21F:→ k7117836:实力 小范让整支球队核心确立 防守确立 有啥好批的? 10/10 01:54
22F:→ k7117836:就像LARRY离开活赛 然後桑德斯一去 每个球员叫好 结果? 10/10 01:55
23F:→ k7117836:固然师乃 BONZI需要多利用 但是别忘了小范不可抹灭的贡献 10/10 01:56