作者alex710707 ()
看板RedSox
标题Mookie Betts or Xander Bogaerts?
时间Sat Oct 24 15:01:02 2015
A few weeks ago I got into a good discussion about young players with a friend.
The topic of Mookie Betts vs. Xander Bogaerts came up. Obviously these are
two of the key pieces for the Red Sox franchise going forward. I didn't realize
this until I looked it up just now, but they were born within a week of each
other in October, 1992.
Bogaerts was the higher profile prospect when they were in the minors, but
Betts has been stunningly effective since reaching the majors. Their value in
2015 was fairly similar but with an edge for Betts if you believe fWAR, 4.3 for
Bogaerts and 4.8 for Betts. Mookie is the better hitter at this stage with
more power and better plate discipline, but Xander is no slouch and has a
defensive premium as a shortstop. They are virtually the same age, so no
advantage there.
Our discussion centered on who will be the better player going forward. I
will not tell you what conclusion we reached, but this seems like an excellent
discussion question for the board.
So let's discuss. Who do you want on your team for the next ten years, Betts or
Bogaerts?
Mookie Betts Xander Bogaerts
位置 CF/2B SS
年纪 刚满23 刚满23 两人生日差6天
三围 .291/.341/.479 .320/.355/.421
BABIP .310 .372
WRC+ 119 109
WAR(Fangraphs) 4.8 4.3
WAR(BR) 6.0 4.6
现在网路投票 364比350票 Mookie Betts领先
我选Mookie Betts,地板高,速度乐胜,打击稳定性跟game power都比较好
Xander Bogaerts 优点是守备位置价值比较高,raw power猛,但今年BABIP实在太高了,
明年能否维持这种三围?且raw power能否转为game power?
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→ Herlin:据说有球探会看体毛 认为体毛较少的未来发育可能性更大 11/01 22:18
→ Herlin:(因为男性荷尔蒙还没有完全作用完?) 11/01 22:18
→ Herlin:不过这是用在毛本来就很多的阿督仔上 11/01 22:19
推 alex710707:靠 版主说看体毛是在开玩笑还是认真的? 11/01 22:19
→ Herlin:用在东方人身上我想应该是肯定不准 11/01 22:19
→ Herlin:真的 我看Baseball America 的印象 11/01 22:19
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1F：推 Roshiel: 签名档是真的假的? 10/24 15:13
2F：推 meteorhades: Betts 10/24 15:40
3F：推 XBogaerts: 哼 10/24 16:07
4F：→ XBogaerts: 好啦Betts一票 10/24 16:07
5F：推 th11yh23: XB本季守备算是有成长吧 本季WAR第一是Mookie 10/24 16:14
6F：→ alex710707: 楼楼上投得很不甘愿喔~~ 10/24 16:22
7F：推 MookieBetts: 当然是XBogaerts一票 10/24 17:27
8F：推 eetolo: 我们几个守备光谱高的位置都有自家农产品卡位了:C,SS,CF,R 10/24 17:47
9F：→ eetolo: F 10/24 17:47
10F：→ eetolo: 感觉爽爽der~ 10/24 17:47
11F：推 MookieBetts: 但是1.3B是帮球队扣分..... 10/24 18:14
12F：推 boston31: Betts +1 10/24 18:18
13F：推 TanoYuuka: Betts一票 10/24 18:34
14F：推 LesBleus: 颜值Bogaerts1票 10/24 19:59
15F：推 JButton: 期待明年两位再进化 10/24 20:18
16F：推 cyscys: Betts这种caramel color才是现在流行的肤色 10/24 21:36
17F：推 mannypo: 3.7楼互投给对方 XD XB+1 10/24 22:23
18F：推 alwu: Betts+1 10/24 22:32
19F：推 ramirez: Betts 10/25 11:35
20F：推 takamiku: Betts+1 10/25 16:40
21F：推 carrhung: XB一票~!! 10/25 20:43
22F：推 keltt: XB罗～因为我有XB的签名球，没有Betts的 XD 10/27 02:02
23F：推 joh: Betts一票 10/28 21:53
24F：推 Pujols56: XB+1 10/30 17:09
25F：推 Carmelo3: XB今年很神奇的变水枪 10/30 20:50
26F：推 fantasyeagle: Betts+1 11/01 19:48
Xander Bogaerts 5 票 VS Mookie Betts 10票
※ 编辑: alex710707 (211.73.166.31), 11/01/2015 20:07:02