作者JacqueJones (她依然很美)
看板RedSox
标题[讨论] Hanley Ramirez
时间Mon Nov 24 07:29:37 2014
http://tinyurl.com/k755ofq
According to an industry source,
the Red Sox are in advanced conversations
with free agent Hanley Ramirez, with the possibility that a deal “could come
together quickly.” As of this afternoon, the source said, there was not an
agreement between the sides, but the potential for a deal is real.
At this point, what is not clear is whether talks with Ramirez are as a third
base fallback should free agent Pablo Sandoval sign with one of his other
suitors (the Giants or Padres), or if the pursuit of Ramirez might be in
conjunction with the pursuit of Sandoval, with Ramirez moving to left field
and Sandoval at third base.
If the Sox did pursue Ramirez, it could be part
of yet another domino, with the possibility of trading Yoenis Cespedes
increasing.
However, the Sox viewed Sandoval as their priority over Ramirez for a number
of reasons, including age (Sandoval is 28; Ramirez turns 31 this winter),
defense (
Sandoval is an above-average defensive third baseman; Ramirez has
been viewed as one of the worst defensive shortstops in the big leagues, and
struggled in a half-season at third base with the Marlins), durability
(Ramirez has averaged 121 games a year over the last five seasons, Sandoval
135) and makeup (
Sandoval is viewed as a strong clubhouse presence, Ramirez
was a polarizing figure with the Marlins prior to his trade to the Dodgers).
https://twitter.com/mlb_nl_al/status/536646960250646528
Reminder,I said Hanley and Boston are agreed on length/money.Still working
details.
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Hanley + Sandoval + Lester 甘五抠林?
还有另一说是几近完成 剩细节需讨论...
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1F:推 jameshu0910: 有人说真签了熊猫&小亨利就可以把XB卖掉等Marrero上 11/24 08:17
2F:→ jameshu0910: 来接SS... 11/24 08:17
3F:→ JacqueJones: 两个都来的话 Bogaerts被交易去换SP也不用太意外 11/24 08:23
※ 编辑: JacqueJones (123.194.91.13), 11/24/2014 08:26:16
4F:→ JacqueJones: 古巴人应该也会是被交易的对象 SP的洞搞不好就靠交易 11/24 08:29
5F:→ JacqueJones: 补上 11/24 08:29
6F:推 seekforever: 我觉得交易XB肯定後悔 他upside比当年Hanley还高 11/24 08:37
7F:→ seekforever: 除非是Sale等级(便宜ACE) 不然实在很痛 11/24 08:39
8F:推 chaohsiu: 我觉得如果真的成然後把XB交易掉,关键应该是亨利可以撑 11/24 09:07
9F:→ chaohsiu: 几年还有XB的包裹可以换到多好的SP 11/24 09:08
10F:推 Absioute: 要交易的话或许会拿去换黑魔使 11/24 09:09
11F:推 alex710707: 小亨利天花板比Xander bogaerts高 11/24 09:26
12F:推 seekforever: Hanley在BA最高排到#10 XB在14年BA BP都排到第二 11/24 09:35
13F:→ seekforever: Hanley在被交易时21岁还在2A XB已经在大联盟先发了 11/24 09:37
14F:推 alex710707: 天花板不是单纯看排名跟年纪 11/24 09:46
15F:推 seekforever: 如果你谈的是那种"他可能是下一个XXX" 我尊重 11/24 09:48
16F:→ seekforever: 不过XB现在的价值远比那时的Hanley来的高 11/24 09:48
17F:推 bryant780417: 当初都已经跑掉一个小亨利了 不要再让XB跑掉了吧 11/24 10:11
18F:→ JustinIdiot: 有些新秀的表现会超出预期的天花板 Trout跟Hanley 11/24 11:01
19F:→ JustinIdiot: 都是上MLB才长出那样的炮管 当时Hanley在攻击输出 11/24 11:01
20F:→ JustinIdiot: 预期上应该比目前预期的XB全面 但XB的守备及炮瓦 11/24 11:01
21F:→ JustinIdiot: 比较优异... 我是认为XB价值高一些 11/24 11:02
22F:推 alex710707: Bogaerts最好的情况就是打出前几年的成绩 11/24 11:06
23F:→ alex710707: 速度小亨利乐胜,守备谁好还难说 11/24 11:07
24F:→ JustinIdiot: 不过要用XB换Sale 一个是proven ace 而且便宜 一个是 11/24 11:07
25F:→ JustinIdiot: 未完全proven的新秀 价值差太多了... 11/24 11:07
26F:→ JustinIdiot: 今年XB是有点失常 对预估应该会有平均以上的水准 11/24 11:08
27F:推 alex710707: 时空背景不一样,不看tool,直接看排名实在很脑 11/24 11:09
28F:→ alex710707: 补充:打出前几年小亨利成绩 11/24 11:10
29F:→ JustinIdiot: 看tool 小亨利的打击+炮瓦当初的预期并没有Bogaert 11/24 11:12
30F:→ JustinIdiot: 好阿...最多就速度乐胜 11/24 11:12
31F:→ JustinIdiot: 顶多Hanley赢一点打击 Bogaert赢一点power这样 11/24 11:15
32F:推 seekforever: XB之前看过有40轰潜力 Hanley比他高是几轰? 11/24 11:38
33F:→ seekforever: 有根据拿出来参考 不然只丢一句话也蛮脑的 11/24 11:39
34F:→ seekforever: XB目前守备看起来就是略低於平均 Hanley是最烂之一 11/24 11:40
35F:→ seekforever: 人家在讲当初 你拿前几年Hanley成绩比 有意义吗? 11/24 11:41
36F:→ JustinIdiot: XB上看40 这我还是第一次听到...XXD 11/24 12:03
37F:推 iverson0968: 衷心希望XB可以成为我们的当家SS!不然小亨利就去站3B 11/24 12:22
38F:→ iverson0968: 吧~ 11/24 12:22
39F:→ JustinIdiot: 那是目前 但XB守备预期就是会有平均以上水准 Hanley 11/24 12:25
40F:→ JustinIdiot: 也没“最”烂这麽夸张... 11/24 12:26
41F:→ JustinIdiot: XB upside 20~25吧 40是哪个球探说的... 11/24 12:29
42F:推 maxspeed150: 我也顶多看到30+ 11/24 12:34
43F:→ maxspeed150: 基本上球探报告不可能写什麽上探40啦 11/24 12:34
44F:→ maxspeed150: 当年的Giancarlo或现在的Gallo都没这种评价 11/24 12:34
45F:→ maxspeed150: Kris Bryant也没有 11/24 12:34
46F:推 james54068: XB的新秀评价可能比较高,但是hanley一上来就展现出超 11/24 12:47
47F:推 alex710707: 失敬,失敬XD 11/24 12:48
48F:→ james54068: 越upside的实力,但是XB离upside还有多远很难说 11/24 12:49
49F:→ james54068: upside都要长的出来才有用 11/24 12:49
50F:推 alex710707: 1Bryant我不知道,但确实有人上看40轰Gallo就是 11/24 12:56
51F:推 seekforever: 我记成Baez了啦XD XB确实是30hr potential没错 11/24 13:15
52F:→ JustinIdiot: Gallo和KB就算upside预测也都介於35~40 11/24 15:43
53F:→ JustinIdiot: 真的不太可能有球探给upside超过40... 11/24 15:44
54F:推 alex710707: 恩 我上一句用手机打很麻烦 没补完 Gallo Power 80分, 11/24 18:35
55F:→ alex710707: 天花板大概就是年年30轰,状况好一点就40轰 11/24 18:35
56F:推 alex710707: 某人就别再自圆其说了 XB天花板就25轰上下,还不到30, 11/24 18:37
57F:→ alex710707: Baez也大概是这水准,炮稍微比XB高一点点而已,30轰是 11/24 18:37
58F:→ alex710707: 炮瓦满分80的评价 11/24 18:37