Prospect Retrospective: David Ortiz http://t.co/DIvjdBmqc8 By John Sickels on Sep 8 2013, 1:42 http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/3175745/davidarias.png (附图一张) Boston Red Sox designated hitter David Ortiz pushed past 2,000 hits this past week. At age 37, he's having one of the best seasons of his career, hitting .311/.394/.559 with an OPS+ of 155 through 120 games. For all the greatness of the last decade, his early run in the majors wasn't a smooth one. He was certainly an interesting prospect, though, so let's look how Big Papi fared in the minors with today's Prospect Retrospective. 波士顿红袜指定打击David Ortiz在这个礼拜打出生涯第2000支安打。37岁的他又打出 特别亮眼的一季，120场比赛.311/.394/.559、155 OPS+。在过去十年时间的所有巨星 之中，老爹生涯前期显得特别的不顺遂。因此我们就来回顾一下老爹的农场时期。 A lot of people don't realize this, but David Ortiz began his career in the Seattle Mariners system, signed as a free agent in 1992 out of the Dominican Republic. He hit .246/.309/.299 as an 18-year-old in the Arizona Rookie League in 1994, hardly impressive performance. But he improved to .322/.409/.538 repeating he AZL at age 19. At that point, he would have rated as a Grade C prospect, needing to show he could repeat this at higher levels. At the time, Ortiz was known as "David Arias." 很多人依然不晓得老爹是在西雅图水手的农场开启职棒生涯的─1992年水手签下这位多明 尼加的自由球员。1994年，18岁的老爹在Arizona Rookie League只缴出.246/.309/.299 的平庸成绩，但19岁在AZL的球季则是进步到.322/.409/.538。当时的他大概是等级C的 新秀，还必须在高阶层级复制成绩才能证明自己。还有，那时的老爹是"David Arias." Ortiz/Arias moved up to Class A Wisconsin in 1996, performing very well, hitting .322/.391/.511 with 18 homers, 52 walks, 108 strikeouts in 129 games, 485 at-bats. At age 20, this is very credible for a guy making his full-season debut. Baseball America was impressed enough to rate him as the Number Six prospect in the Midwest League. Ortiz(Arias)在1996年升上Wisconsin (A)，表现非常的好(129场比赛，485 AB中打出 .322/.391/.511、18 HR、52 BB、 108K)；这对於年仅20岁、刚挑战完整球季的球员来说 是个很不可思议的成绩。Baseball America对他的印象很深刻，把老爹列为 Midwest League第六名。 Despite his excellent season, the Mariners, looking for veteran hitting help, traded him to the Twins for Dave Hollins in the off-season. I gave him a Grade B in my 1997 book, noting that the Twins got a good deal and that the Mariners would probably regret trading Arias. 虽然打出好表现，但是水手因为欠缺老将的火力而选择在休赛期间拿去跟双城换 Dave Hollins。1997年的手册中，我将老爹列为B级新秀，并加注双城完成了一笔好交易，水手 未来可能会後悔当时将这位Arias送走。 In the spring of `97, David started going by Ortiz rather than Arias, after he brought the error with his name to Minnesota's attention. He was also nine months younger than listed in his official records. He rose rapidly through the Twins farm system that year, hitting .331/.390/.566 in 61 games for Class A Fort Myers, then .322/.376/.585 in 69 games for Double-A New Britain. He appeared in 15 games for the Twins late in the season, hitting .327. I gave him a Grade B+, rating him as the Number 49 prospect overall in baseball heading into '98. This was a fast rise, going from A-ball to the majors in less than a year and hitting well at every level. 1997年春天，老爹的名字从David Arias改成David Ortiz，而在改名事件引发注目之後， 他的实际年龄也下修了九个月。他在双城小联盟一飞冲天，Fort Myers (A)的61场 .331/.390/.566，New Britain (AA)的69场.322/.376/.585；最後在双城出赛15场，打击 率.327。这时我将老爹评为B+，1998年季前名中名列49名。老爹踩着风火轮，一年之内从 1A冲上大联盟，而且每一级都打出好成绩。 Although his power was impressive, there were concerns about his defense, his weight, and a big swing that didn't fit into Minnesota's contact-oriented philosophy. Ortiz spent most of '98 with the Twins, hitting .277/.371/.446 in 86 games, OPS+111, quite solid for age 22. The bat was potent, but Twins manager Tom Kelly rode Ortiz about his glovework and publicly complained about his strikeouts. Some Twins fans felt that Ortiz was being treated unfairly, while others agreed with Kelly's critique. 虽然老爹的炮瓦很惊人，但是防守、体重和豪迈挥棒(和双城的contact为上哲学不吻合) 都是隐忧。老爹在1998年球季大多都留在双城，86场比赛.277/.371/.446、111 OPS+， 对於22岁的人来说很不错。虽然挥棒有力，但是双城总教练Tom Kelly公开批评老爹的守 备和三振数。有些双城迷认为这对老爹不公平，但是也有支持Kelly的一派。 Ortiz spent most of '99 exiled back to the minors, hitting .315/.415/.590 with 30 homers for Triple-A Salt Lake and playing just 10 games in the majors. He regained his job with the Twins in '00 and was reasonably effective for three seasons, although not outstanding, bothered by nagging injuries. Overall, he hit .265/.344/.473 those three seasons with Minnesota, with an OPS+ of 109. This included a .272/.332/.500 line with 20 homers, 120 OPS+ in '02. The Twins released him anyway, wanting to save money and seeing him as a guy who didn't really fit in. 1999年老爹几乎都蹲在Salt Lake (AAA)练功，打出.315/.415/.590、30HR却只获得10场 的大联盟上场机会。2000年重回双城，表现还不差但也因为伤势问题而无法打出亮眼成绩 。这三季下来.265/.344/.473、109 OPS+；其中2002年.272/.332/.500、20 HR，OPS+达 到120。不过双城还是为了省钱把不适合双城的老爹释出。 Signed by the Red Sox as a free agent, he broke out with a .288/.369/.592 season, 31 homers, 144 OPS+. He was 27 years old, the classic season for a dramatic improvement. With a new organization that wasn't paranoid about strikeouts, he was able to unleash his natural swing and raw power. 红袜签下老爹後，老爹打出爆发性的成绩：.288/.369/.592、31 HR、144 OPS+，典型的 27岁爆发。这支球队不在意三振问题，老爹的炮瓦和豪迈挥棒也得以解放。 "Something in my swing was not right in Minnesota. I could never hit for power. Whenever I took a big swing, they'd say to me, ‘Hey, hey, what are you doing?' So I said, ‘You want me to hit like a little bitch, then I will.'" 「我在双城时期的挥棒就是不对，我永远没办法打出力量。每次我来个大挥棒，他们就会 『嘿，嘿，你在干什麽』，我就说你是想要我像小婊子那样挥棒的话，我就会照做。」 As you likely know, he also tested positive for PEDs in 2003 as part of a general survey of the MLB player population. This was revealed in 2009 and to this day Ortiz denies having taken steroids. The details of the '03 tests are still murky, with over 100 players testing positive for a variety of different substances. Whatever was going on in '03, Ortiz has tested negative ever since, passing several tests every season. With clean tests for a decade now, I think he has to get the benefit of the doubt. Certainly a presumption of guilt is unjustified. 如大家所知，2003年药检普查中老爹的PED检测呈阳性，这件事在2009年被爆料出来但是 老爹否认这件事。2003年的药检普查依然是个谜团，超过100位球员检测出各种药物。不 过不管2003年怎样，老爹在接下来的药检都全数通过。经过十年来的检测，我想也该还给 老爹清白了─有罪推定是不对的。 I don't regard Ortiz's performance boost in 2003 as particularly suspicious. He was 27, the classic breakout age. He was with a new team that wasn't trying to turn him into a contact hitter, and his minor league performances had always shown he was capable of being outstanding. He dominated minor league pitching; his major league performance didn't just come out of nowhere unexpectedly, and even in Minnesota he had periods of excellent production. 我不会视2003年的爆发为疑点，因为27岁是典型的爆发年龄、他在一个没有试图把他乔成 contact hitter的新球团、以及秀出他惊人能力的小联盟成绩说明了一切：他足以电爆 小联盟打者，他的大联盟成绩不是天上掉下来的。就算在双城期间也有不差的产能。 Overall, Ortiz is certainly one of the best DHs in history, hitting .287/.381/.548, OPS+ 139, WAR 40.4. His 40.4 WAR ranks him 10th All-time among players who spent the majority of their career at DH, in the neighborhood of Jose Canseco (42.1) Tony Oliva (40.7), Harold Baines (38.5), and Chili Davis (37.9). To this point in his career, his best Sim Score comps are Carlos Delgado, Fred McGriff, Lance Berkman, Willie Stargell, Jason Giambi, Paul Konerko, Willie McCovey, Frank Thomas, Gil Hodges, and Duke Snider. 整体来说，老爹是历史上数一数二的指定打击，DH生涯.287/.381/.548、OPS+ 139、 40.4 WAR。他的40.4 WAR名列DH第十，成绩接近的球员包含Jose Canseco (42.1) , Tony Oliva (40.7), Harold Baines (38.5) 和 Chili Davis (37.9)。算到今日为止 ，模拟成绩可以和 Carlos Delgado, Fred McGriff, Lance Berkman, Willie Stargell, Jason Giambi, Paul Konerko, Willie McCovey, Frank Thomas, Gil Hodges , 与 Duke Snider匹敌。 -- "HARD WORK BEATS TALENT WHEN TALENT FAILS TO WORK HARD." --

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