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标题[渔塭] BP: chat with Anderson, Mellen, Parks
时间Sat Feb 2 18:17:41 2013
感谢之前的那位板友给我新的一篇~
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Chris Mellen (BP's Dark Corridors): Thanks for the chat Mark! Can you explain
why I didn't list Ryan Lavarnway on the Red Sox top-10 25-and-under list? Has
his stock fallen that much?
Chris Mellen: Mark,你能解释我为什麽没把Ryan Lavarnway放进25岁以下的十大红袜
新秀吗?他真的贬值那麽多吗?
Mark Anderson: Ah, Mr. Mellen...just as you have, I have seen a ton of
Lavarnway the last few years. His performance in the big leagues in 2012 was
very surprising to me, and frankly I wasn't that impressed with him in
Pawtucket either. Ultimately, I think he will hit enough to survive on a big
league roster, but he's a man without a position and with the newer depth in
the Red Sox system, I'm not sure he deserved a spot on your U25 list.
Mark Anderson: 我在过去几年都有密切观察Lavarnway。他上一季在大联盟的表现令我讶
异,而我也觉得他在Pawtucket的表现并没有很好。我认为他最终能留在
大联盟,但是他并没有站稳位置,而红袜农场也有新捕手进场,因此我
认为他不值得留在这个U25的名单里。
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Bryce Brentz (Pawtucket): do I still have the potential to be a 25+ homer guy
for the red sox?
Bryce Brentz: 我依然是个拥有25轰潜力的球员吗?
Mark Anderson: You certainly have the raw power to produce at that level, but
I'm not convinced you're going to consistently hit at a level to sustain that
type of power.
Mark Anderson:你的力量是有的,但我不认为你有办法在这种力量之下提供足够的稳定
性。
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HolidayJesus (New York): Do you think in Spring Training the Red Sox will
consider moving Xander Bogaerts to another position? He's on the verge of
filling up like a Miguel Cabrera in size.
HolidayJesus:你觉得红袜会在春训时把Xander Bogaerts移到其他位置吗?他快要跟
Miguel Cabrera一样大只了。
Chris Mellen: Bogaerts has been filling out over the course of the last year,
but not quite at that rate. He's put on some good weight, especially in the
lower body, but there is still some room on the frame and he moves well.
I see him continuing to play shortstop this season as developmentally there
isn't really a need yet to move him off the position. I anticipate a move in
the long-run and could see next off-season as when he transitions to either
third base or the outfield.
Mark Anderson:他去年的确有变大只一些,但是没有到那麽夸张的速度啦。他增加一些
重量是好事,尤其是下盘。如果他的移动能力依然够好的话,其实还有
一些增重空间。
我认为Bogaerts在这一季会继续站游击,就发展层面来说他还不需要移
到其他位置。但我预测未来会有变动,可能会在下一季移到三垒或是外
野。
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Billy (Ocean): How can you tell if a batter has a long swing? Do you just
look at the swing, or is there another technique?
Billy:怎麽判断一位打者有没有"long swing"?单纯的看挥棒的样子,还是说有什麽特
殊技巧?
Chris Mellen: Good technical question, Billy. I look at the swing, but
specifically how it starts and gets to the point of contact. That's really
where you want to zone in on. Some swings are just long in nature because of
the size of the player or what-have-you. The question is: is the player long
to the point of contact? That's usually extending early with their arms,
which causes the head of the bat to loop and also makes it tough to get good
wood on balls on the inner third.
Chris Mellen:很不错的问题。我看的是挥棒,但主要是挥棒的起始点到接触点的差距─
这就是你必须注意的地方。有些人挥棒轨迹就是特别长,可能是因为他本
身体型之类的。问题是,球员和接触点的距离多远?很多人事提早伸展手
臂,造成棒头绕圈并很难打好内角高球。
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Corey (Boston): How far away is Jackie Bradley Jr.? What does he most need to
work on this season?
Corey:Jackie Bradley Jr.离大联盟多远?他在这一季还需要加强什麽?
Chris Mellen: In the perfect scenario where he isn't rushed because of injury
or need, I think he is about a year away. The defense is already major league
caliber and can push to plus-plus in my opinion from what I have seen. The
bat still needs the seasoning. He can tend to over-extend and also lack clean
timing when he plants his foot. Bradley also at times neglects to cover the
outer third and hit consistently to the opposite field. These are things I
believe he is going to improve upon during his second full pro season, but he
has some work to get the bat ready to face the challenge of big league arms.
Chris Mellen:在理想情况之下(没有因为有人受伤或是人手需求而rush),我认为他还需
要一年。他的防守能力已有大联盟等级,我甚至认为(就我观察到的)他能
拼到plus-plus等级。不过他的打击技巧还需要乔一乔,他常常过度伸展
或是脚步踩的时间点不够好。Bradley也常常会忽略掉应该要去cover外角
高、持续的把球送到反方向。我相信他在第二个职业球季会加强这些部份
,但他还需要磨练一下才能准备面对大联盟的投手。
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Ben (Boston): What do you make of Brandon Workman? Is it reasonable to
characterize him as an under-the-radar future No.4 SP, or do you think he's
more likely destined for a 7th inning role?
Ben:那Brandon Workman如何?把他看成未来四号先发的冷门人选是合理的吗?还是您觉
得他应该会成为第七局上场的牛棚投手?
Chris Mellen: I see Brandon Workman as a reliever. There is some effort and
jerk in the delivery. He wears himself down given the energy he expends over
the course of multiple innings and trips through a lineup. The cutter is a
plus pitch, which should play up nicely for him in a relief role. I've had
his fastball up to 95 mph and think it can work close to its peak in the
shorter stints too. 7th inning reliever sounds right, with a chance to get a
little more leverage out of him depending on how the stuff plays up and the
command works in the shorter stints.
Chris Mellen:我将他视为牛棚投手。他的投球姿势较为有力,也较为刁钻。但是在他投
过复数局、轮完几轮打线之後会气力耗尽。他的cutter是个plus pitch,
能成为担任牛棚的一大利器。他的速球曾飙到95mph,我同时认为他应该
能练出更早就催到最大球速。第七局上场听起来没错,能不能在更紧急的
时刻推上来则取决於能不能拿出stuff并在短时间内找到准星。
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Target Town (St. Paul, MN): When you rate 70 - 80 power - Do you judge it
solely by the distance of the HRs or do you judge it by the potential of the
swing to hit HRs? Is it # of HRs or ability to hit monster shots?
Target Town:当你将一位球员的力量评为70-80,你是依据全垒打的距离、挥出全垒打的
潜力、全垒打数还是挥出超远全垒打的能力?
Chris Mellen: Raw power is the ability to hit the ball far. Then, there is
game power. If I project a guy out to 70 power, I'm thinking 35-ish home
runs. If I say a guy has 70 raw, he can drive the ball a mile.
Chris Mellen:"Raw power"就是将球打得很远的能力,而还有另外一种叫做"game power"
。如果我说他有70的power,他大概会是个年产量35轰的球员,但是如果
那位仁兄有70的Raw power,他大概能把球轰到一哩外。
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Tom (Mainer): When people say Matt Barnes has the potential to be a number 2,
what does that really mean? Who are some current major league pitchers that
you consider to be number 2s?
Tom:常常有人说Matt Barnes有潜力成为「二号先发」,这是什麽意思?现役球员中有哪
些人可以说是二号?
Chris Mellen: That you're looking at a pitcher that can be above-average to
well above-average at the major league level. I always saw Jon Lester prior
to his rough 2012 season as a number 2. Barnes may end up a notch below that,
or a number 3, but he's got potential for some seasons on that level.
Chris Mellen:在大联盟中能成为"above-average"与"well above-average"之间的投手
。扣掉风雨飘摇的2012年球季,我认为Jon Lester是个二号。Barnes比他
稍微差一些,可能会到三号,但他的潜力大概就是他能有一些球季站上那
个等级。
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Alan (Florida): Where would you rank Bogaerts in a Top 100?
Alan:你会把Bogaerts排在百大中的第几名?
Chris Mellen: Top 15. 12 or so.
Chris Mellen:前十五,大概12吧。
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Matt (Boston, MA): Does Manuel Margot make the jump to full season ball in
2013? Also, is there anyone aside from him, Buttrey or Vincio that could
realistically crash the top half of next year's top 10 list (major breakout
potential, in other words)?
Matt:Manuel Margot能不能在2013年就进入完整球季?还有,他和Buttrey、Vinicio有
没有机会在明年上半季打进新秀前10名?(大爆发的潜力)
Chris Mellen: I'm expecting Margot to go to short-season Lowell this year. I
obviously liked the tools a lot, but feel the pitch recognition and approach
isn't really for full-season this year. We shall see, of course, and spring
training will be another good look to see where he is.
I think those would be the candidates that are presently outside the radar so
to speak.
Chris Mellen:我预测Margot会先去打短球季的Lowell Spinners。我喜欢他的tools,但
是他对於球种辨识的感觉与打击技巧都还不足以进入完整球季。当然我们
还得观察他在春训时的表现。
另外这三位雷达外的球员,我认为的确是开始发声的候选人。
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Megon (Boston): What is your impression of Blake Swihart? Do you think he
will live up to the hype surrounding him?
Megon:你对於Blake Swihart的印象如何?你觉得他未来能符合大家对他的期待吗?
Chris Mellen: I like what Swihart brings to the table. We ranked him number 5
in the system and I felt that was justified. Physically, Swihart has been
coming along and filling out into his frame. The defense made some progress
over the course of this season from when I saw him in spring training to
Greenville to Instructs. He may end up at second base eventually, but the
progress behind the plate is moving forward.
Swihart's raw with his pitch recognition and approach, but has a feel for
hitting and I like his swing from the left-side of the plate. There's an
ability to produce backspin, stay back on the ball, and use his hands. The
key will be how those first two aspects are progressing when I focus in on
him this year to see where the bat is trending.
Chris Mellen:我喜欢Swihart拥有的才华。我们将他列为红袜第五名,我认为这很合理
。就体能上来说,他的身体素质不断进步,也开始增加体重了。防守技巧
在过去这个球季(从春训到指导联盟)进步很多;他最後也许会变成二垒手
,但是他担任捕手的技术成长了许多。
Swihart对於球种辨识与打击技巧还没很熟练,但是对於打击越来越能抓
到感觉了;而我也特别喜欢他站左打时的挥击。他能制造後旋、击球时重
心稳住并善用手部。所以关键在於球种辨识和打击技巧的进展,看他接下
来的打击方面的成长如何。
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DanMShaw (UK): Aside from the obvious top 4-5 who are you most excited to see
in the Red Sox system next year. Margot?
DanMShaw:除了那有名的四、五位新秀之外,您明年最期待谁?Margot?
Jason Parks: Yep. Margot and Vinicio.
Jason Parks:是的,Margot和Vinicio。
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DanMShaw (UK): Who will be more effective out of Barnes, Webster and De La
Rosa? The three have similar ceilings don't they?
DanMShaw:在Barnes、Webster和De La Rosa三人之中,谁的影响力最大?这三人的天花
板应该都差不多,对吧?
Jason Parks: I'd take Barnes. I think he could develop into a 2/3 starter.
Webster a step below (but not much). Not sure what to think of De La Rosa
right now.
Jason Parks:我会选Barnes。我觉得他能发展为2或3号先发。Webster的等级稍微差一点
(但差距不大)。De La Rosa的话还不确定。
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myshkin (Santa Clara, CA): How far above average is "solid-average?" 55?
myshkin:"solid-average"比"average"高多少?55分吗?
Jason Parks: Yes. High 5 or 55
Jason Parks:是的,55分,或是接近6的5.X分。
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BA Top 30 prospects出来了,但是该板友的来源不愿透漏整份名单
1.Xander Bogaerts
2.Jackie Bradley
3.Matt Barnes
4.Allen Webster
5.Henry Owens
6.Blake Swihart
7.Garin Cecchini
8.Bryce Brentz
9.Jose Iglesias
10.Deven Marrero
(这边缺的七人应该是Workman, Ranaudo, Wilson, Britton, Buttrey,
13.Brandon Jacobs
Vinicio)
15.Brian Johnson
16.Tzu-Wei Lin
20.Manuel Margot
21.Pat Light
22.Francellis Montas
23.Travis Shaw
24.Sean Coyle
25.Kuery De La Cruz
(边缘名单可能是:Kukuk、Gomez、Callahan、Linares或Hazelbaker...)
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"HARD WORK BEATS TALENT
WHEN TALENT FAILS TO WORK HARD."
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※ 编辑: tanaka0826 来自: 122.117.20.246 (02/02 18:18)
1F:→ tanaka0826:另外照文中叙述 Vinicio跟Buttrey应该是18、19左右 02/02 18:20
2F:→ tanaka0826:Holt也应该会在14或之後 02/02 18:20
3F:推 open: 02/02 20:25
4F:推 jameshu0910:旅美帮有新闻,林子伟排16名 02/02 20:41
5F:→ tanaka0826:喔? 难道是没有Holt吗? 02/02 22:15
http://oakland.athletics.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=25576171
Reddick怎麽变成这样了XD
※ 编辑: tanaka0826 来自: 122.117.20.246 (02/02 23:49)
6F:推 eon4:第二个问题是brentz自己问的?真有趣 XD 02/03 01:27
7F:推 dapei842110:Ranaudo节节下滑... 02/03 15:32
8F:推 maxspeed150:Ranaudo现在就是个.........普普通通没command的白人 02/03 20:01
9F:推 KOSHON:齐天大圣啊!!! 大王回来了,大王回来了~~ 02/03 20:39
10F:→ tanaka0826:那个是伪物~ 02/03 20:59
11F:推 Orcish: 02/04 01:09
12F:推 EE66:谢逊怎麽跑到美国去了 02/04 19:30
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