作者seekforever (sadnessflower)
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标题[红袜] A LOOK AT THE SHANE VICTORINO DEAL
时间Wed Dec 5 14:50:58 2012
http://tinyurl.com/aywduep
NEW MARKET REALITY:
A LOOK AT THE SHANE VICTORINO DEAL AND HOW IT FITS RED SOX’PLANS
By Alex Speier
NASHVILLE, Tenn. — The Red Sox wanted a right fielder with the legitimate
defensive range to play center for a few reasons. First, the team wants
someone with the ability to handle Fenway Park’s expansive piece of right
field real estate. Secondly, the team wants to have roster depth and
flexibility to feature a solid backup plan should Jacoby Ellsbury be
unavailable at any point in 2013 or for Jackie Bradley Jr. come 2014. And, if
the team either trades Ellsbury this year or if Bradley — contrary to
expectations for his development path — isn’t big league ready by the start
of 2014, the team needs a fallback option in center, while also getting a
player who can fill the vacancy that exists in right field in 2013 and,
depending on the pace of Bryce Brentz‘s development, perhaps 2014 as well.
签下一个守备范围大到可以守CF的右外野手有几个理由
1. 芬威广大的右外野
2. 提供Ellsbury受伤或被交易时的保险
3. 在Jackie Bradley Jr.上来前顶住CF
4. 可以视Bryce Brentz的发展情形决定如何处理Ellsbury
Enter Shane Victorino.
According to a major league source, the Red Sox reached a three-year
agreement. Reports peg the value of the deal at $39 million ($13 million a
year) for the outfielder, who just turned 32 in the past week. Victorino
projects, according to another source, to be the everyday right fielder for
the Sox while also providing the center field protection that the team needs.
The deal isn’t yet final, as he needs to take a physical for it to become
official.
Victorino,32岁的外野手,
39M/3yrs的合约等体检後才正式生效。
这张合约将cover他的32-34岁
The contract might seem like a steep cost of admission for a player who is
coming off the worst season of his career. Victorino hit .255/.321/.383/.704
with 11 homers and 39 steals in 45 attempts for the Phillies and (after a
mid-year trade) Dodgers in 2012. Those marks were down considerably from a
career line of .275/.341/.430/.770.
在他打出生涯最差的一季(.255/.321/.383)後 这张约看起来有点贵
The Sox are hopeful that he can bounce back closer to career norms. But even
if he doesn’t, his defense and speed on the bases give him value even if the
2012 season represented something other than an aberration. Moreover, he does
not cost the Red Sox a draft pick, as he was ineligible for a one-year
qualifying offer from the Dodgers after having been traded mid-year.
但他生涯有.275/.341/.430的三围
而且签他不用赔选秀权
While Victorino is a switch-hitter and thus, in theory, could give the Sox
some left-right lineup balance, he struggled badly against right-handed
pitchers in 2012 (hitting .229/.296/.333/.629 against righties, and
eventually trying to bat right-handed against right-handed pitchers),
compared to excellent marks against lefties (.323/.388/.518/.906). That is in
keeping with Victorino’s career trends. Against lefties, he’s a career
.301/.373/.508/.881 hitter, while against righties, he has a
.267/.330/.402/.732 line.
理论上他是个左右开弓 但是右打比较好(.301/.373/.508)
“There are no perfect players,” observed one team source.
That being the case, the Sox wanted to continue an offseason that has seen
them address most of their needs without sacrificing their future. The team
has added two outfielders (Victorino, Jonny Gomes), a first baseman (and
potentially catcher) in Mike Napoli and another catcher in David Ross without
sacrificing any prospects or draft picks. That, in turn, follows GM Ben
Cherington‘s stated desire to build a strong team for 2013 without
compromising the team’s long-term outlook for 2014 and beyond.
红袜想要在不牺牲未来的前提下补洞
季末已经补了2个OF(Victorino, Jonny Gomes)、1个1B跟代班C(Napoli)
而没有赔掉任何选秀权 让我们不用在13年的成绩与未来间妥协
But what of the cost of Victorino’s deal? Line up the top center fielders
who have signed this offseason and it doesn’t necessarily look so out of
place:
到底Victorino贵不贵?看看以下几笔
B.J. Upton, Braves
Cost: 5 years, $75 million and a draft pick.
Age during contract: 28-32
2012: .246/.298/.454/.752, 28 HR, 31 SB
Career: .255/.336/.422/.758, 20 HR (162-game avg), 39 SB (162-game avg)
Angel Pagan, Giants
Cost: 4 years, $40 million
Age during contract: 31-34
2012: .288/.338/.440/.778, 8 HR, 29 SB
Career: .281/.333/.424/.757, 10 HR (162-game avg), 29 SB (162-game avg)
Shane Victorino, Red Sox
Cost: 3 years, $38 million
Age during contract: 32-34
2012: .255/.321/.383/.704, 11 HR, 39 SB
Career: .275/.341/.430/.770, 14 HR (162-game avg), 30 SB (162-game avg)
So, Victorino cost slightly more per year than Pagan, but he comes off the
books sooner — falling into the Sox’ blueprint of acquiring players on
shorter-term deals. He also costs less per year and required fewer years than
Upton — and he didn’t require the sacrifice of a draft pick.
平均年薪比Pagan贵,但年限少了一年-符合目前签短约的建军哲学
平均年薪跟年限都比Upton哥短,而且不用赔选秀权
Again, it seems expensive, but center fielders are very rarely available on
the free agent market. In the previous four offseasons, the most notable
center fielders to move in free agency were Coco Crisp, Mike Cameron, Marlon
Byrd and Willy Taveras. If the Sox wanted a player capable of being a center
fielder, they were going to have to pay a premium to land him.
看起来有点贵,不过市场上CF难寻
过去四个球季市场上的CF只有Coco、Cameron、Marlon Byrd、Willy Taveras
(注:现在市场上剩下的纯CF只有Michael Bourn,预计要价80M/5yrs以上)
Still, signing Victorino shouldn’t prevent the Sox from other moves. Between
the departures of Adrian Gonzalez, Carl Crawford, Josh Beckett and Nick Punto
in the Dodgers blockbuster, and the departures since last year of Daisuke
Matsuzaka, Kevin Youkilis, Bobby Jenks and others, the team had more than
$100 million come off its books.
签下Victorino不影响其他继续进行的动作
跟道奇的大交易加上季末到期约,清出了100M以上的空间
To date, while the Sox have re-signed David Ortiz for a lower average annual
value (AAV) than he played under last year, the team has spent approximately
$34 million in terms of AAV on four free agents (Victorino, Gomez, Napoli,
Ross). In other words, the team still has plenty of remaining flexibility
beyond what it has spent to this point.
换言之,球队还有钱可花
So far, all of the Sox’ moves have addressed areas of need. They haven’t
prevented the team from being able to address other areas (starting pitcher,
perhaps a shortstop, bench depth), and they haven’t cost the team either
prospects or draft picks. In that context, so far, everything is proceeding
according to a fairly well-defined blueprint.
目前为止的动作补上了一些洞,接下来就是处理SP、可能的SS昇级、板凳深度,
一切都按照一个良好的计画进行中。
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1F:推 nicknhit:恩,这几个约都签的很不错或者是不差 至少确实有个方针 12/05 14:58
2F:→ nicknhit:虽然我本来比较偏好腊肉哥来站1B 不过看到那个约就满意了 12/05 15:00
3F:→ nicknhit:毕竟腊肉哥用这种价格多半是拿不下的。如果可以再来一张 12/05 15:01
4F:→ nicknhit:39/3签下Swisher,我会把掐哥当神GM看的XD 12/05 15:02
5F:→ seekforever:我比较担心下一张39M/3yrs会给Dempster.... 12/05 15:04
6F:推 nicknhit:拜托不要.....0rz 12/05 15:06
7F:推 pitt911:或许不会花钱签蛋皮 而是拿捕手加上鱼苗去换别人的前段 12/05 15:10
8F:→ mygoing:其实还ok的约啦 只差没在美联打过 12/05 15:15
9F:推 tlchen:文中似乎没提到增建,芬威右外野一直很大 12/05 15:21
10F:推 myde:其实有补强我已经很开心,都拿第七顺位了,最烂也就状元阿XD 12/05 15:41
11F:推 bezlin:芬威想增建不会是右外野 而是观众席 12/05 15:48
12F:推 alex710707:我怕的是明年不上不下 12/05 16:09
13F:推 maxspeed150:不上不下就不上不下啊.....本来就没对明年有什麽期待 12/05 16:12
14F:→ maxspeed150:怕是怕因为一些意外 造成战绩超出预期/低於预期太多 12/05 16:12
15F:→ maxspeed150:打乱原本规划 做出太多狗急跳墙的事情 12/05 16:12
16F:推 KayRain:这约其实不贵 是因为刚签长度价钱类似的拿波里相比觉得比 12/05 16:20
17F:→ KayRain:较差 其实还是水准以上的约 12/05 16:20
18F:推 nicknhit:Alex说的应该今年丢了80M补强结果明年只拿到20顺位之类的 12/05 16:22
19F:→ nicknhit:既没有2014高顺位选秀权也没有2013季後赛吧 12/05 16:22
20F:推 alex710707:进不了季後就乾脆烂一点2014年再来个前十顺位,不然明年 12/05 16:27
21F:→ alex710707:要签FA没前十又可能会掉选秀权 12/05 16:28
22F:→ alex710707:今年会拿到第七其实也跟运气差还有GM 8月底开始放弃有 12/05 16:29
23F:推 nicknhit:我也是这麽想的,说老实话今年的FA市场没有决定性的大物 12/05 16:29
24F:→ alex710707:关 我看GM最近签的就是不想完全放弃明年 但不想丢选秀 12/05 16:30
25F:→ alex710707:也不想给太大的约 挡到未来薪资的弹性 12/05 16:30
26F:推 roverchi:芬威的右外野增建了喔? 12/05 16:34
27F:推 nicknhit:顺便问一下 今年我们不管签谁都不会丢选秀吧? 12/05 16:34
29F:推 alex710707:只会掉第二轮给签走的球原本球队 然後该队再拿一三明治 12/05 16:39
30F:推 tanaka0826:完全要感谢季末那段冲刺 12/05 16:41
31F:推 nicknhit:了解了 感谢两位大大补充 不过今年策略应该很明显 12/05 16:42
32F:→ nicknhit:我是蛮希望明年再来个前十顺位的 2014选秀深度好像比明年 12/05 16:43
33F:→ nicknhit:好很多 12/05 16:43
34F:推 alex710707:其实这三年伤兵多加上运气真的糟到极点 现在阵容如果 12/05 16:51
35F:→ alex710707:终结者Bard跟Bailey其中一人能顶好 加上再签个 12/05 16:52
36F:→ alex710707:Mccarthy顶好三号 明年也不是没希望 12/05 16:52
37F:→ alex710707:但最可能的是掉到11~20名之间没季後又没保护选秀顺位 12/05 16:55
38F:推 nicknhit:其实我觉得换个队医团队搞不好才是我们最需要的补强... 12/05 16:58
39F:→ nicknhit:这几年实在太多搞笑事件了... 12/05 16:58
40F:推 maxspeed150:我们的队医能应付McCarthy吗 12/05 17:02
41F:推 nicknhit:印象中好像去年有换?但感觉还是蛮鸟蛋的... 12/05 17:04
42F:→ seekforever:对不起 我把expansive看程expansion 没有增建 12/05 17:28
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43F:推 meteorhades:倒是觉得McCarthy真的可以试一下 毕竟现在要签他真的 12/05 17:38
44F:→ meteorhades:不贵 12/05 17:38
45F:推 jameshu0910:关於QO的补偿不是这样吧,应该是前十顺位第一轮受保护 12/05 19:17
46F:→ jameshu0910:拿掉第二轮,11顺位後第一轮就没保护了,而球员原东家只 12/05 19:19
47F:→ jameshu0910:能拿个一&二轮间的三明治,新东家被拿掉的顺位不会给原 12/05 19:20
48F:→ jameshu0910:东家 12/05 19:20
49F:推 hit10116:总版那边为我们签的球员战成一片不知道是在干嘛="= 12/05 23:27
50F:推 KOSHON:就有人手痒在练钓技啊。 12/05 23:33
51F:推 hit10116:真有趣 在吵的都不是袜迷XD 12/05 23:56
52F:推 sky1686:XDDDD 12/06 00:01
53F:推 dragon2000:觉得有点贵 但好在只有三年 勉强可以接受 12/06 00:34
54F:推 roverchi:说真的~我到现在还是不知道那两个人的约有啥好比较的... 12/06 00:57
55F:→ roverchi:应该是说~我看不出争点~XD 12/06 00:58
56F:推 maikxz:推文根本ㄏㄏ 12/06 01:07
58F:推 sky1686:那影片有一个 Verlander为啥会突然砸打者 摆明故意@@?! 12/06 13:56
59F:推 lovemost:Michael Bourn真的会要这麽贵吗... 12/06 14:18
60F:推 Jaicabai:楼楼上 V壮那次超好笑 他是要牵制一垒 结果投向本垒..xD 12/06 15:59
61F:推 sky1686:哈哈哈哈 是太累了喔XDDDD 12/06 18:10
62F:推 Jaicabai:本垒牵制当初的文章在MLB版 7161篇 7165篇 12/06 22:51