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※ [本文转录自 DoMoe 信箱] 作者: [email protected] ([email protected]) 标题: [ESPN] Wakefield, Dickey share a unique rel … 时间: Fri Jul 25 01:19:14 2008 作者: Pedroia (Dustin Pedroia #15) 看板: BosRedSox 标题: [ESPN] Wakefield, Dickey share a unique relationship 时间: Fri Jul 25 01:14:15 2008 http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?id=3500094 Wakefield, Dickey share a unique relationship 老魏与迪基—一段特殊的联系 By Sean McAdam Special to ESPN.com SEATTLE -- One is almost 42 years old; the other is 33. One has won 174 games in the major leagues; the other, 18. One has been with the same team since 1995, while the other has been with four organizations since the end of 2006. 单比这两人的数字几乎看不出啥关连:老魏快42岁、迪基目前33;前者大联盟拿下174胜 、後者才18;老魏1995後一直待在袜子、迪基2006年底到目前穿过四队球衣。 But where it counts -- on the pitcher's mound -- Tim Wakefield and R.A. Dickey are more alike than not. Both belong to an exclusive club, which has a membership of two: themselves. 然而若提到投手丘,这两人的关连性可大了~ 他们各自待在独一无二——好吧其实应该是独二无三——的球队: 因为这两支球队各自拥有这两位选手(真像绕口令) Like some sort of endangered species, they are the only two current major league pitchers who throw a knuckleball. As such, they share a unique kinship. 为了避免再卖关子就要被END,事实上是这两位投手为现今大联盟濒临绝种物种—— 蝴蝶球投手,没错,他们是有血缘关系的。 Across baseball, there are approximately 370 pitchers. Select almost any two at random, and the pair could compare notes and share common experiences. 在大联盟总计370名投手中随便挑两个,他们总能各自分享笔记跟自身经验。 Not Wakefield or Dickey, though. Nobody knows the troubles they've seen. Or felt. Or faced. …除了老魏跟迪基外,没人能知道/感受/面对他们所遭遇过的问题。 Except themselves, of course. 还好他们还拥有彼此。 "I don't mean this as any disrespect to conventional pitchers," Dickey said, "but it takes a special amount of fortitude to throw a 65 mph pitch to Vladimir Guerrero." 「不是说瞧不起其他投手,可是我觉得敢对葛诺诺投个65麦的人,的确是很带种」迪基说 Knuckleballers were never exactly rampant, but in the modern era, the game has had its share. Some -- such as Phil Niekro and Hoyt Wilhelm -- were good enough to earn induction into the Hall of Fame. 蝴蝶球在大联盟从来就没真正流行过,但不可抹灭的,它在近代棒球中仍拥有特殊的位置 。最顶尖的蝴蝶球好手,像是Phil Niekro与Hoyt Wilhelm甚至进了名人堂。 Some were good enough some of the time to win 20 games multiple times (Wilbur Wood, each season from 1971 to '74) or consistently win in double figures (Charlie Hough, nine straight seasons from 1982 to 1990). 而其余的蝴蝶大师也有过多次单季拿下20胜(Wilbur Wood,1971-1974);或是挤进单季 持续两位数胜投榜(Charlie Hough,1982-1990)。 Most pitched well into their 40s before retiring. But now Wakefield and Dickey stand alone, as if threatened by extinction. If they're not the last of their breed, they are, for now, the only links to the game's most unique pitch. 大多蝴蝶球投手就算超过40仍是能持续贡献局数,然而现在老魏跟迪基却孤伶伶,彷佛要 被灭种一般。就算他们并非蝴蝶族最後的血脉(作者似乎忘记袜子3A的Zink),至少目前 ,他们是唯一投球有连结性的。 And though they pitch for different American League teams -- Wakefield for the Boston Red Sox and Dickey for the Seattle Mariners -- and their teams face off nine times this season, they're in this together. 虽然他们为米联不同球队效力(赤袜老魏、水手迪基,而两队一季只交手九回),但他们 的关系远比这紧密。 "It's lonely sometimes," Dickey said of his existence. "You almost feel like a place-kicker on a football team. 'Yeah, you go over on that other field by yourself.' Lots of guys throw a slider or a sinker or a changeup. But only we throw knuckleballs. That's a bond that Wake and I share." 谈到身为蝴蝶球传人,迪基表示有时真的很孤单: 「有时会觉得自己像是米式足球的开球员:『得独自一人跑到对场去』;其他投手都丢 滑球、伸卡、变速,只有我们丢蝴蝶——这是我跟魏老的共业啊!」 Monday afternoon at Safeco Field, as the Mariners left the field after batting practice and the Red Sox took over, Dickey lingered in the outfield and talked with Wakefield for almost a half hour. 周一下午当水手结束打击练习与客队红袜交替,在外野闲晃的迪基走向老魏聊了半小时。 Even from afar, Wakefield could be seen going through his motion, rotating his hand to demonstrate a grip or a release point as Dickey listened intently. 就算远望也看得出老蝴蝶正在教学:转动着手示范如何握球或是放球点在哪,而身旁迪基 则是认真地聆听。 "This is valuable time for me," Dickey said, "because I don't get to see him very often." 「对我而言,这一刻无价」迪基表示「平时我很少有机会与他碰头」 Sometimes the two talk on the phone. Wakefield offers advice and, sometimes, encouragement. 有时迪基会用电话与大师请益,老魏则会给予建议和适时鼓励。 "I can't believe how accommodating he is," Dickey said. "It's kind of humbling because he doesn't have to do this." 「他对我好到无法置信;说实在的,他并不需要这麽大力帮助我」晚辈说 But Wakefield feels, if not a sense of duty or obligation, then a certain past debt. When Wakefield was learning his signature pitch, he learned from Hough. Later, after he was released by the Pirates and desperate to reclaim his command, he worked with Phil and Joe Niekro, who won a combined 539 games. Still later, he occasionally consulted with Tom Candiotti. 而就老魏而言,这就算非出自责任感或义务、至少也是世代传承的人情债:老蝴蝶从着名 的Hough学习他尔後闯荡大联盟的招牌利器;被海盗释出後他亟需找回控球,於是找上了 合计539胜的Phil Niekro与Joe Niekro;甚至之後,他偶而也会向Tom Candiotti请益。 Now it's Wakefield's turn to help someone else, to pay it forward, as it were. 现在该是老魏克帮助传人的时刻了。 "It's such a small fraternity," Wakefield said. "When I was coming up, it was nice to talk to guys. I remember when I worked with Charlie for the first time, I watched him throw and carried a tape recorder with me. I can remember Phil standing behind the screen, watching me throw and giving me direction -- 'Take a little off this one; throw this one a little harder.' I can still hear him. 「蝴蝶投手属於小族群。很庆幸我出道时得到那麽多人帮助——我还记得第一次和 Charlie Hough学习时他投球的动作,他甚至拿了台录音机给我!我也记得Phil站在护栏 後指导我投球,他说道:『这颗可以轻些;这颗还要在用力点』,他当时的声音依旧在我 耳边环绕。」老魏分享当初他学习的历程 "It's not a responsibility that I feel. But I think it's cool to give back to somebody, to be able to help someone like those guys helped me." 「帮助迪基并非出自一股责任感,而是我觉得能跟教导我的大师们那般回馈他人是件很酷 的事。」 Not all knuckleballers are created equal. Some throw harder than others, and some throw the knuckler more often than others. 就算是蝴蝶球投手也不是一个模子出来的。有的投的比其他快、有的使用蝴蝶球的频率比 其他人高。 Then there are the mechanical differences and stylistic variations. 此外也有投球机制不同和风格上的差异。 "We're all different," Wakefield said. 「没人是相同的」老蝴蝶表示 But the knuckleballers share enough similarities, especially when two members of the fraternity get together. 可是蝴蝶球投手共通的孤立感倒是殊无二致,特别是他们凑在一起时。 "Think about it," Red Sox pitching coach John Farrell said. "They can't talk to someone else in their own dugout [when they're struggling] because the other guys can't relate and can't help them. So they have to seek out like-minded pitchers to share their experiences. There's some commonality there." 「这是理所当然的,」功力不凡的赤袜投手教练表示,「遭遇挫折时他们无法与休息区其 他队友讨论,因为其他人无法了解。自然而然他们必须向外找到与自己经验共通的人交流 。」 Farrell has learned enough about Wakefield's checkpoints that he sometimes sits in when Wakefield and Dickey exchange ideas and offers some thoughts of his own. 投手教练飞瑞尔早熟悉老蝴蝶教授的要点,所以当老魏与迪基交换意见时他有时会坐在旁 边提供个人见解。 Like Wakefield, who was drafted as a first baseman but fell into the knuckleball as a way to avoid being released in Class A, Dickey came to the knuckler late in life. He took his early tutorials, the basics, from Hough. 如同老魏当初为了避免在1A被释出而从一垒转职投手;迪基也是在後期才开始向Hough学 习他的蝴蝶球基础课程。 But Wakefield, who one day could surpass Cy Young and Roger Clemens to become the Red Sox's all-time winningest pitcher, can offer a master class. 但像老魏这种有天会超越赛扬和火箭人拿下袜子队史胜投王的大师,有能力提供蝴蝶球进 阶课程。 "Where he's valuable," Dickey said, "is with the arm arc, the action on the pitch, the rotation. … Charlie was really instrumental in building my foundation. But now I have to execute it consistently, and to do that, mechanically, you have to be so perfect." 「他厉害的地方在於投球手臂角度、投球的动作、和旋转…Charlie为我打下根基,但现 在我必须保持动作的一致性——机器式地,这意味你表现必须很完美。」迪基说道 Beyond the vagaries of the pitch, there's the mental aspect. Almost every modern knuckleballer has a career record near .500 because the pitch sometimes is as baffling to the pitcher as to the batter attempting to hit it. 除了投球难以掌握之外,另外还有心理层面的问题。几乎所有近代蝴蝶球投手的生涯胜率 都在五成左右,因为蝴蝶飞舞不仅对打者,也同时对投手造成困扰。 "I've learned that being able to weather all the ups and downs that go with throwing the pitch is very important," Dickey said. 「我现在已知道,了解天气因素对球路上飘下飘的影响有多重要。」迪基表示 In stark contrast to the career of Wakefield, the longest-tenured Red Sox player, Dickey's baseball journey has been nomadic. He spent parts of 11 seasons in the minor leagues and turned to the knuckler three seasons ago. 相较於老蝴蝶,这位在赤袜有史来待最久的球员,拥有稳固的合约;迪基简直是棒球里的 游牧民族,他花了11年在小联盟,直到最後三季才变成蝴蝶球投手。 He just now may be beginning to command the pitch: After moving out of Seattle's bullpen, he's 1-1 with a 1.37 ERA in his past four starts. He'll use the knuckler Tuesday night to try to beat Wakefield's Red Sox. 他至今才开始慢慢掌握这种特殊球路,来到水手牛棚後,他近四场先发成绩是一胜一负、 防御率1.37,而他周二晚还对上老魏所在的赤袜。 "I hope we win 1-0, or 2-1," Wakefield said when asked whether he'll feel conflicted. "I want him to do well, and I want us to win." 「我希望我们能以一比零或是二比一获胜,」被问到心中是否天人交战的老魏回答「我期 盼他有好的表现,但我也希望我们赢球。」 Dickey echoed that sentiment: "It's not awkward for me. We're human beings; we have a relationship. There's that unwritten code [among knuckleballers], about being as helpful as possible to one another." 迪基对此也有同感:「没那麽尴尬啦~我们都是一般人,并有着特殊关连性。对蝴蝶球投 手们有个不成文规定:就是尽可能帮助对方。」 Told that Wakefield hopes the Mariners knuckleballer pitches well but loses a low-scoring game Tuesday night, Dickey smiles and nods. 被告知老魏希望周二的比赛他能有好表现,但同时也希望袜子能以低比数赢得胜利,迪基 笑着点点头表示他很了。 They understand, even if others don't. They know. 就算他人不懂,蝴蝶球投手们自己倒清楚的很。 "You want to win," Dickey said, "by half a run." 迪基说:「我很想赢~赢个半分就好~」 -- 补上赤袜杂鱼3A的蝴蝶投手Charlie Zink今年成绩: Team League W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB SO GO/AO AVG PAW INT 11 3 2.54 21 21 2 1 0 127.1 98 50 36 7 38 81 0.93 .211 不过他已经29岁,一般而言,He has no time 但对蝴蝶球投手我们是否可以多期待一点 XD (满想看到他近90的快速球是什麽姿势投的) -- ╭◥███◣╮ ╭═╮ ╭══╮ ╭◢█ ═███ theanswer3═╮ ║ █ ◤ █╰════╯◢╰═════╯ ● ╰═╯ █ █ ╴◤ ◣ ║ ║ █▌◢█ ◢█◣ ◢▌█ ◢◢◣ ◢█◣ ◢ ◢█◣ █ ◥██◣  ̄ ▃╱╱ ║ ║ ███◤ █◢◤ █◢█ █◤ █▌█ █ █◢█ █ ▄ █ ╱ˇ ║ ║ █◤ ◥█◤ ◥◤◥ ◤ ◥█◤ ◤ ◥◤◥◢█◣◥██◤ Γ ﹀ ║ ╰═◤═══════════════════════════════════╯ --



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◆ From: 219.81.152.147 ※ 编辑: DoMoe 来自: 219.81.152.147 (07/25 01:26)
1F:推 skittles:推 但怎麽觉得今年这两只蝴蝶都满悲情的T.T 07/25 01:37
2F:推 Belladonaa:Zink应该是放弃90mph快速球了 动作差太多了 07/25 02:32
3F:→ Belladonaa:修正一下 找到资料 07/25 02:33
4F:→ Belladonaa:投mid-80s fastball/cutter/knuckler动作都一样 07/25 02:34
5F:推 betadu:不知道Zink投蝴蝶球的比重如何 BB/9还算不错 07/25 06:57
6F:推 mrkey:在一起 在一起~~~ (误) 其实 knuckler 以前还有几个... 07/25 11:20
7F:推 sandwichpope:有点好奇Zink能不能上MLB啊?数据很漂亮... 07/25 12:15
8F:推 Belladonaa:他已经准备好被Call on 9月看看吧 07/25 12:17
9F:→ Belladonaa:不过他明星赛後 大爆炸 07/25 12:19







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