※ 引述《nickdarren (共笔免疫不全症)》之铭言： : 个人觉得这只是谈判的开始 : Boras也应该不会真的认为2年30M是合理的 : 谈判开始当然要先开高一点 : 总不能一开始就喊底线吧 : 这样很容易一方不接受就无法谈下去了 : 松?虽然经过数据换算後是名很好的投手 : 甚至可能是MLB前10的好投手〈忘记哪里看到的外国评论〉 这个是付费文章的节录 Josh (Bethlehem, PA): Jim, How can you call Matsuzaka one of the Top 10 pitchers in the world? The dude has pitched only a handful of innings against the premier hitters in the world. You being a prospect guy and all should know great stuff and scouting reports isnt a guarantee to translate into MLB success. (And no, I'm not just a bitter Yankee fan, I'd be saying the same thing if the bombers won the bid too) SportsNation Jim Callis: (2:52 PM ET ) There's no guarantee of anyone being successful. But I've talked to scouts and read numerous stories and reports on Matsuzaka. Good luck finding someone who doesn't think he's a frontline pitcher. He's 26, has succeeded in the Japanese majors and in numerous international tests, and he has five or six plus pitches, some plus-plus. Yeah, he's one of the Top 10 pitchers in the world. Mike (columbus OH): Not that it is very comparable but Irabu was supposed to be the next great thing. Turn the tides coming from Japan, that worked out. SportsNation Jim Callis: (3:04 PM ET ) Irabu had a big arm and bad makeup. Matsuzaka has more polish and better makeup. We've seen Hideo Nomo come over and be a star, Kaz Sasaki come over and be a top closer, Akinori Otsuka come over and exceed expectations. Most of the top pitchers who have come over from Japan have mirrored their success over there. Jeff (Iowa): So if Matsuzaka is a Top 10 pitcher, where does he rank among Santana, Oswalt, Clemens, Carpenter, Peavy, Webb, Wang, Schilling, Verlander, etc? SportsNation Jim Callis: (2:57 PM ET ) We're talking about for the future. I'd much rather have Matsuzaka's future than Clemens and Schilling, no question. I'd take him over at least half of the guys on that list. Josh (mpls, MN): Who is the TOP pitcher in the world? SportsNation Jim Callis: (2:58 PM ET ) Johan Santana. : 而我昨天PO的文章认为他的风险极小 : 但是这是数据不是现实情况 : 他在日本使用过度的情况 : 会不会在美国出问题 : 他真的有那麽杀吗 : 这都是红袜的风险 : 以一个未打过MLB的选手 : 个人认为10M是合理可以被接受的 : 但是Boras应该不会让价位这麽低 : 在一来一往之间 : 12M1年是应该为大家所能接受的最高限度 : 而且至少要签4年约 : 否则乾脆让给别队 : 这对红袜来说 : 已经很有诚意了 : 如果松?不接受那也没有办法 : 那不如让洋基的邻居去谈吧 : METS能比这高吗 : 那也未必 : 松有潜在的风险 : 大都会未必肯出比红袜多的钱 : 如果谈不成 : 松?回日本 : 吃最多亏的是他自己和西武 : 因为他不想在日本多待了 : 谈不成那就明年再来 : 再被操一年 : 总之我个人认为红袜还是会签下松? : 只是会比一年15M少上许多 : 想当初并不想松?来红袜的 : 没想到他来了 : 是福是祸大家走着瞧吧 : ※ 引述《KKyosuke (春日恭介)》之铭言： : : 作者: KKyosuke (春日恭介) 看板: MLB : : 标题: [新闻] Bora$你好狠...... : : 时间: Fri Nov 17 11:10:48 2006 : : http://sports.yahoo.co.jp/hl?c=npb&a=20061117-00000003-spn-spo : : 嗯 直接翻重点 : : Bora$觉得投手的长期契约因为有风险 平均年薪不会高 : : 所以要求签两年契约 平均15M : : 哇哩咧 红袜花了51M 然後你只想签两年?!?!?! : : 真是＊％^＃＄＠ --

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