作者csy1911 (招财猫)
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标题[农场] 2013 Prospects in Review: Catcher
时间Tue Nov 19 23:57:25 2013
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Catcher
The catcher profile can be summed up in one word: defense. Since catching is
the most demanding defensive position on the spectrum, defense at the catcher
position is imperative. Top prospects rarely come in the catcher profile;
many excellent hitters are moved off the position to protect their legs (Wil
Myers, Bryce Harper) while many traditional athletes prefer a different
defensive home. Catchers also have the lowest success rates of all prospects,
and many of the best catchers in baseball right now were never top prospects.
对捕手的要求可以简单用一个字说完:防守。自从捕手成为场上防守要求最高的
守位,防守就成了一位好捕手最重要特质。顶尖新秀很少被当成捕手养,许多出色的
攻击型捕手新秀会为了保护他们的腿被换防到其他守位(Wil Myers, Bryce Harper)
。和其他位置新秀相比,捕手新秀的养成率也是最低的,而历史上出色的捕手有许多
也从未被视为顶尖新秀。
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24. Oscar Hernandez (19 Y.O. in Short Season Class-A and Class-A)
192 PAs, .227/.286/.364, 6.8 BB%, 13.0 K%, 6 HR, 12 XBH
When Oscar Hernandez first came stateside, everyone was eager to see how his
bat would perform. In 2012, he hit fairly well (110 wRC+) as an 18 year old
in rookie ball. Promoted to Hudson Valley this year with a three game stint
in Bowling Green, Hernandez didn't hit quite as well (96 wRC+ in Hudson
Valley), but he showed why there is much enthusiasm for his future, as
evidenced by his #2 ranking in the New York Penn League by Baseball America.
当Oscar Hernandez第一次来到美国,每个人都想见识他的火力。'12年在Rk的打
击成绩(110 wRC+)以一位18岁的年轻新秀来说还不错。今年升上A-,也在 A出赛了
3场,Hernandez打得不算相当好(96 wRC+),但他展现了值得对他未来抱持期待的
理由,Baseball America在季末评选将他选为
所属联盟第2号新秀。
Defensively, Oscar Hernandez has the makings of being an elite defender in
his prime, possibly one of the best in baseball. His arm rates as plus to
plus-plus currently, and he throws accurately as well. The arm shows in his
caught stealing rates; he threw out 16 of the 28 runners with Hudson Valley
and the sole runner with Bowling Green. A 59% caught stealing rate is
terrific for a catcher. Hernandez is athletic behind the plate, blocking
pitches well for his age, and he has shown a desire to become an excellent
framer of pitches. His athleticism shows in his stolen bases as well, as he
stole nine bases and was caught only once. While his season wasn't great
offensively, he still showed his potential with the bat. His strikeout rate
was low, he showed signs of power (six home runs this year, and a .163 ISO in
2012), and he walked at a modest rate (it was better in 2011-2012).
防守端,Oscar Hernandez 展现成为出色
防守者的潜能,也许会是棒球史上最棒
的防守者之一。目前
臂力在60到70分之间
(满分80分,plus-plus 70分,plus 60分)
,
准度也够。这也展现在
阻杀率上;整季对手28次尝试盗垒,抓到16次, 59%的阻杀
率对捕手来说近乎完美。 Hernandez在本垒板後的
运动能力相当出色,以同龄新秀来
说,
挡球做得很棒,
接捕也很出色。运动能力也展现在盗垒上,尝试9次只被抓到1次
。虽然整季打击表现不算好,但依旧展现打击上的
潜力。
低三振率,有点
长打火力(
今年6发全垒打,去年ISO.163),
保送率也保持的不错(前两年更好。)
个人补充:
Hernandez应该是光芒近几年自家农场出产最棒的捕手新秀。来到美国两年
BABIP
一直偏低,今年更只有.232,但整体OPS还是在所属联盟水准之上,
K%和BB%的跳动也
不大,是他比过去拉美新秀更值得期待的原因。期待明年他离开打者坟场A-进入攻守
平衡的 A会有更出色的表现。我认为他的
前景有机会比游骑兵的Jorge Alfaro更好。
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Curt Casali (24 Y.O. in Advanced Class-A and Double-A)
329 PA, .316/.404/.488, 11.9 BB%, 14.9 K%, 10 HR, 28 XBH
Few prospects in the system raised their stock more dramatically than Casali.
Acquired by the Rays from the Tigers for Kyle Lobstein (who also had a very
good year), Casali carried the reputation of a glove-first catcher. In 2013,
he dispelled that image. He had a 116 wRC+ in Port Charlotte, and a 216 (!)
wRC+ in Montgomery.
很少有新秀上升的幅度像Casali这麽惊人。去年用Kyle Lobstein(今年也表现
很好)从老虎换来的Casali是个以
防守闻名的新秀,但今年他完全破除了人们对他过
去的印象。他今年在A+的wRC+ 116,在AA的wRC+ 216。
The most remarkable aspect of Casali's season was how well rounded and
complete it was. He hit for a high average, walked at a very good rate,
struck out at a below average rate, and hit for above average power. His CS%
was a little low, but his reputation is that of a good defender. About the
only negative was his age; however, catchers tend to develop more slowly, so
it is not much of a concern. This season wasn't out of nowhere, as he hit for
a .792 OPS in 2012. If he continues to hit next year, he has the upside of an
everyday catcher.
Casali整季做得最出色的地方在於他表现得非常全面,
高打击率,
高上垒率,
低
三振率,就连
长打能力都在水准之上。
阻杀率偏低,但他的防守评价还是相当高。最
大的缺点在於他偏高的
年龄;不过捕手的养成本来就会比较慢,所以这也不是什麽值
得担心的事情。他在本季的表现不是没来由的,去年 OPS就高达.792。如果明年可以
维持这样的打击表现,他有成为
固定先发捕手的潜力。
个人补充:
从双赢的角度,Lobstein换Casali可能是去年小联盟最成功的交易之一。前者补
强了老虎农场最缺的先发左投,今年的成绩(FIP 3.06)更是老虎今年高阶农场最出
色的先发之一;Casali则无庸置疑成为光芒高阶农场最被期待的捕手,今年交出的打
击成绩在光芒高阶农场更是无人能出其右。
回到Casali,今年夸张打击成绩的背後是高达
.354的BABIP(生涯.308),LD%也
高於生涯平均,如果不是打击型态有调整,其实运气成分满高的。但就算打击率成绩
小幅下修,K%和 BB%就固定先发捕手的要求来说也够了。球季结束後Casali本来被光
芒安排去打AFL,但只打一场就因肘伤离队,由Maile取代,如果伤势不太严重,明年
Casali结束春训後会从AA出发,季中视情况升上 AAA。当然如果春训成绩够亮眼,直
接从AAA也不无可能(目前AAA捕手真空…),除非明年打击崩盘,不然
明年球季结束
肯定能进入40人名单(Rule V)。
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Nick Ciuffo (18 Y.O. in Rookie League)
169 PA, .258/.296/.308, 5.3 BB%, 23.7 K%, 0 HR, 7 XBH
The top pick by the Rays in the 2013 draft, Nick Ciuffo got off to a rough
start in professional ball. Ciuffo doesn't project as a top hitter, but
scouting reports indicated he has above average to plus power. However, he
didn't hit a single home run in pro ball and smacked only seven extra base
hits. His strikeout and walk rates also need improvement. If his short stint
with the GCL Rays was of any indication, Ciuffo has some work to do with the
bat. However, catching prospects with good tools receive plenty of leeway in
that regard.
今年光芒的选秀状元— Nick Ciuffo在职业赛场的初体验表现平平。他不会是顶
尖打者,但球探报告认为他的
长打能力有60分。但他在职业赛场还没有出现全垒打,
K/BB也需要加强。从小样本来看,Ciuffo的打击还要再加油。不过有天份的捕手新秀
总是值得等待。
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Chris Gimenez (30 Y.O. in Triple-A)
375 PA, .224/.350/.305, 15.2 BB%, 16.8 K%, 3 HR, 19 XBH
Partnered with Jesus Flores for much of the year was Chris Gimenez. While
many fans clamored for Gimenez to make the Rays opening day roster over Jose
Lobaton due to a solid late season stint with the Rays and a good season in
Durham, the Rays wisely elected to send him to Triple-A. While he showed a
very good K/BB rate, Gimenez hit for a low average and poor power, leading to
a 93 wRC+. While he is a fine 3rd catcher to stash away in Triple-A,
Gimenez's chance as a consistent major league player likely has passed.
因为去年季末和整年在AAA的好表现,今年开季前,许多球迷认为Chris Gimenez
比Jose Lobaton更有资格进入开季名单。但光芒睿智的选择把他送回 AAA。虽然K/BB
表现得不错,Gimenez的
打击率和
长打率都不怎麽样,整季wRC+ 93。虽然他还是一位
可以丢在AAA的
不错三号捕手,但我想他站稳大联盟的时机已经过了。
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Mayo Acosta (25 Y.O. in Double-A)
262 PA, .197/.259/.321, 8.0 BB%, 23.3 K%, 7 HR, 15 XBH
After moving across three levels in 2013 to fill in holes with different
teams, Acosta spend the entire 2013 season with Montgomery. Acosta is not a
serious prospect; his 2012 stands out as an outlier. He wasn't terrible
before 2012 though, and he isn't incredibly old, so if he can bounce back
after a poor 2013, there is a chance he could catch on as a second or third
catcher.
去年跑了三个层级补上各队因为伤病造成的捕手空缺,Acosta今年都待在AA。他
并非值得注意的新秀,但去年的成绩相当不错,去年之前的成绩也没到很糟,也不算
大龄新人,如果他可以从今年的低潮反弹,有机会成为二号或三号捕手。
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Lucas Bailey (22 Y.O. in Advanced Class-A)
149 PA, .180/.221/.230, 4.1 BB%, 29.1 K%, 1 HR, 5 XBH
Once a favorite of prospect followers, Bailey is quickly falling out of the
picture. Repeating Port Charlotte, Bailey was limited to only 43 games
courtesy of a shoulder injury. In the time he did play, he was a disaster.
His peripherals went even further backwards, and his one saving grace in the
past several years, his power, deserted him. Though he has a strong arm,
Bailey needs to show that his bat has promise for him to stick around.
曾经是关注新秀的球迷眼中的宠儿,Bailey用很快的速度跌出大家的视线,再
次从A+出发,Bailey因为肩伤只出赛43场。但就算上场比赛,他的表现也是一场灾难
。
各项表现都在退步,连过去几年曾经赖以为生的
长打能力都没了。虽然
臂力还是很
强壮,但Bailey需要证明自己的打击。
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Jake DePew (21 Y.O. in Advanced Class-A)
230 PA, .223/.274/.261, 6.5 BB%, 17.0 K%, 1 HR, 6 XBH
Drafted in the 9th round of the 2011 draft, DePew took an overslot deal to
forgo his scholarship to Louisville. Since signing, he has failed to hit, and
in 2013, the Rays sent him to Port Charlotte as a stop gap measure. His 2012
performance in Hudson Valley (.541 OPS) certainly didn't warrant the skip of
a level, but Bailey's shoulder injury necessitated it. DePew unsurprisingly
struggled, hitting for a meager .535 OPS. If the Rays decisions this past
year are any indication, DePew is viewed more as an organizational player
than a serious prospect.
'11年第9轮,光芒用高於建议签约金的价格把他从Louisville大学抢过来。签约
後他在
打击上陷入挣扎。今年光芒把他丢到A+暂时顶一下捕手的空缺。去年在A-的打
击表现(.541 OPS)不足以让他跳级,但Bailey的肩伤让他不得不提早升级。毫无意
外的,DePew打得很挣扎,OPS是惨淡的.535。从今年的操作来看,光芒只是把他当作
一位
填补空缺的小联盟球员,而不是一位值得认真栽培的新秀。
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Luke Maile (22 Y.O. in Class-A)
407 PA, .283/.351/.402, 10.1 BB%, 13.3 K%, 4 HR, 32 XBH
While many of the Rays catching prospects are defense-first players, Maile is
the opposite. In college, scouts questioned his defense, though it is worth
noting that he was statistically excellent defensively this year. He threw
out 51% of base runners and allowed only two passed balls. However, it was
Maile's offense that caused him to be drafted by the Rays in the 8th round.
He hit for a 114 wRC+ this year, showing a very good K/BB rate but not much
power (.119 ISO). Maile was a 22 year old playing in the Midwest League, so
he was old for a top prospect at the level. While Maile probably won't show
up on any top 30 lists, he definitely is in the conversation for the top 50.
虽然光芒许多捕手新秀都强调防守第一,不过 Maile是少数的反例。大学时代,
球探就质疑过他的防守,不过他在今年在
防守数据上的表现让这些质疑不值一提。整
季51%的阻杀率,只发生2次捕逸。但真正让光芒在第八轮选择他的其实是
打击能力。
今年wRC+ 114,出色的
K/BB,不过没什麽
长打能力(ISO.119)。Maile已经22岁了,
在所属联盟数於大龄新秀。虽然 Maile可能不会进入Top 30,但他值得在Top 50找到
自己的位子。
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Justin O'Conner (21 Y.O. in Class-A)
439 PA, .233/.290/.381, 7.1 BB%, 25.3 K%, 14 HR, 31 XBH
When Justin O'Conner was selected by the Rays in the 2010 draft, many fans
were happy that the team managed to nab the top prep catcher in the draft.
However, O'Conner has failed to live up to the hype, though the past two
years may be signs that he is improving. His 25.3 K% was the lowest of his
career, and the 14 home runs are the highest. Scouts also still are
encouraged by his defensive tools, saying he has a plus arm (56 CS%) and is
good at blocking pitches. At the same time, there is still plenty of work to
be done. Though he posted the highest batting average of his career this
year, a .233 mark is still very low. Additionally, his strikeouts prevents
him from tapping into his plus power consistently. They have made him a bit
of an all or nothing hitter, as nearly half of his extra base hits went for
home runs. Still, O'Conner is young and is a catcher, so there is still time
for him to regain his top prospect status.
当光芒在'10年选中Justin O'Conner时,许多球迷都认为他们选到了最棒的高中
捕手。虽然过去两年都在进步,但表现却不符合当初的评价。三振率 25.3%是生涯新
低,14轰是生涯新高。防守能力也提高不少球探的评价,60分的
臂力(阻杀率 56%)
,
挡球也做得很好
(这边我有点疑惑,事实上O'Conner今年蹲捕的62场比赛,发生22
次捕逸)。但他还有许多功课要做,
打击率来到生涯新高,但.233还是非常低,除此
之外,偏高的
三振率让他无法稳定的释放水准之上的
长打能力,当半数长打变成全垒
打的同时,他会有点像"all or nothing"的打击者(简单说,不是全垒打就是三振…
。)。O'Conner依旧是年轻的捕手,还有很多时间让他重新回到顶尖新秀的讨论里。
个人补充:
如果要为目前的O'Conner找一个模板,我想没有人比蓝鸟队的J.P. Arencibia更
合适,出色的长打火力和臂力,但挥空率和防守同样令人担心,真要说有哪里不同,
那就是 Arencibia是大学打者,有更多比赛经验,而O'Conner高中时是投打双栖,在
捕手之外还去守游击,相对来说养成时间也会比较长,至少今年的成长让他看起来还
不算太令人失望。
对O'Conner来说,另一个好消息是光芒新聘请的农场打击指导就是前蓝鸟的打击
教练
Chad Mottola,除了他执教过Arencibia('09年蓝鸟农场打击指导,'10年AAA打
击教练),另一个帮助是Mottola师承Dwayne Murphy,是当年把 Jose Bautista调整
成全垒打王的重要推手,希望有他的帮助O'Conner可以在打击上大跃进。
附上一段O'Conner今年的打击影片:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJfM9iCbvpQ
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Omar Narvaez (21 Y.O. in Short Season Class-A)
162 PA, .267/.311/.333, 4.9 BB%, 13.0 K%, 0 HR, 8 XBH
Oscar Hernandez's catching partner in Hudson Valley, Omar Narvaez was
excellent at throwing out base runners; he nabbed ten of the twenty who tried
to steal. At the plate, Narvaez was above average at making contact and
hitting for an average. However, he rarely walked and hit for little power.
The Rays did get him a fair amount of playing time even with Hernandez on the
team, so it may be an indication that they see something beyond the numbers
in him (or they were just trying to keep Hernandez rested).
Oscar Hernandez在A-的轮替夥伴, Omar Narvaez在阻杀跑者上做得很棒,对手20
次尝试,他抓到10次。水准之上的
击球能力和
打击率,但不太
选保送也缺乏
长打能力。
即使和Hernandez同队,光芒也给了Narvaez可观的上场时间,所以也许球团在他身上看
到了发展的潜力(或者只是试着让Hernandez得到更多的休息。)
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Jesus Araiza (20 Y.O. in Rookie Ball and Class-A)
205 PA, .279/.363/.324, 9.8 BB%, 15.1 K%, 0 HR, 7 XBH
While Araiza's name rarely pops up when discussing prospects, he performed
solidly this year. As a 20 year old in Princeton, Araiza hit for a high
average and showed a good walk rate. Unfortunately, he displayed very little
power, hitting zero home runs and collecting only seven extra base hits. The
low minors are crowded with catchers, so consistent playing time could be an
issue.
虽然Araiza的名字很少被拿出来讨论,但他今年的表现非常亮眼。这位今年在Rk
出赛的20岁新秀交出了不错的
打击率,在
选保送上也做得不错。不幸的,他的
长打能
力不太理想,整季没有全垒打,长打也只有 7支。低阶农场捕手有很多,稳定的出赛
时间会是他在养成上需要考虑的问题。
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Taylor Hawkins (19 Y.O. in Rookie League)
139 PA, .171/.259/.252, 7.9 BB%, 26.6 K%, 1 HR, 8 XBH
Taylor Hawkins is another example of an above slot toolsy high school draft
pick that has failed to pan out. His draft report indicated that he had plus
power, which led to 74 home runs in high school, one short of the national
record set by Jeff Clement. So far in pro ball, that power has been absent.
He hit only one home run this year, his first in pro ball, and has has 10
career extra base hits. None of the other tools have stood out either.
Hawkins is a catcher and he has good raw power, but he needs to start showing
it in games.
Taylor Hawkins是另一个高於签约金的高中
潜力新秀,但目前这笔投资还没获得
回报。球探报告指出他有出色的长打能力,在高中时期以74发全垒打领先群雄,差点
就可以追平Jeff Clement创下的全国纪录。但到目前为止,他的
长打能力遗失了。今
年只有 1发全垒打,也是他职业生涯首轰,生涯的长打支数不过10支。同时他也没展
现
其他部分的天分。Hawkins 是一位有长打能力的捕手,但需要将它展现在比赛中。
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1F:→ csy1911 :这篇讲到很多球探报告的形容词,可以参考下列连结: 11/20 00:13
3F:→ csy1911 :其实每个形容词都有对应的20-80 Scouting Scale 11/20 00:14
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5F:推 DanielHudson:推 11/21 03:03
6F:推 oscarrene :推! 11/21 16:11
7F:推 srysry :感谢球探报告的术语简介一文 如果要连早期C养成都算 11/24 00:50
8F:→ srysry :目前光芒养成最好的C应该是Toby Hall 11/24 00:50
9F:→ srysry :满开心 Oscar得到BA的关注 毕竟今年不算打得特别出色 11/24 00:51
10F:→ srysry :Narvaez是一个捕手防守技能很好的捕手 生涯CS超过50% 11/24 00:53
11F:→ srysry :是一个很好二号捕手的养成 所以才得到这麽多的打数 11/24 00:54
12F:→ srysry :不过Oscar和Narvaez今年都BB%明显下降 打击策略改变? 11/24 00:55
13F:→ srysry :基本上在GCL场地最容易吃掉的成绩就是炮瓦@"@ 11/24 00:56
14F:→ srysry :看过有人对於Araiza评价不差 但打击似乎还不算很理想 11/24 01:01
15F:→ srysry :有点缺乏长打... 11/24 01:01
16F:推 srysry :感谢整理与翻译XD 11/24 01:05
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