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标题[农场] Rays Organizational Needs
时间Sun May 27 20:16:26 2012
Rays Organizational Needs
Unlike last year, when the Rays had 12 picks within the first two rounds,
this year's draft provides them with less opportunities to acquire elite
talent. The Rays have one pick per round (the 25th) and no supplemental picks
in 2012. Nevertheless, there are some organizational needs that can be filled
by drafting and developing the right players. I'm going to take a short look
at the organizational strength, pointing out the positions I see the Rays
with the most of lack in talent.
不同於去年在前两轮拥有12枚选秀权,今年获得出色天分的机会较少。但还是可以在选秀
後搭配适当的养成来填补农场所需。接下来我会介绍农场的优势,并点出光芒在哪些位置
缺乏天赋。
Starting Pitching
While Starting Pitching has been THE organizational strength for years now,
the minor league depth regarding top starting pitching prospects took a
considerable hit over the last year. Top SP prospects like Chris Archer, Alex
Torres, Alex Colome and Enny Romero have not (yet) developed the way we all
hoped for and a new Matt Moore or Jeremy Hellickson (at least in full-season
ball) is nowhere to be found. Nevertheless, I do see the starting pitching
depth as clearly above average, comparing it to other MLB teams. Here is my
explanation why:
先发投手这几年一直都是农场里的亮点,但去年几位农作物收割後对农场产生了显着的冲
击。高阶投手新秀包括Chris Archer、Alex Torres、Alex Colome和Enny Romero目前尚未
如预期的成为下一个Moore或Hellickson。但和其他球队比起来,我们在这个位置的深度还
是高於联盟水平的。
1. Despite Alex Torres' struggles and Jeff Niemann's injury, the MLB depth
is still solid. Alex Cobb should fill in nicely for Niemann. Wade Davis is
always there for insurance. And Chris Archer seems to recover a bit from a
slow start to the season.
1. 虽然Alex Torres低潮、Jeff Niemann受伤,大联盟的深度还是很稳定,Alex Cobb适
时的补上Niemann的空缺,Wade Davis也在牛棚随时待命。Chris Archer似乎从季初
的不稳反弹回来了。
2. While the pitchers in A+ and AA are mostly not playing up to their
potential (with the exception of Mr. Riefenhauser), there is at least some
MLB-SP potential in there with Alex Colome and Enny Romero.
2. 虽然A+和AA的投手群大多还没展现出他们的天分(除了C.J Riefenhauser),还是有些
球员具备大联盟先发实力,像是Alex Colome和Enny Romero。
补充:AA Nick Barnese, Jacob Thompson, Kyle Lobstein, Joseph Cruz
A+ Grayson Garvin, Wilking Rodriguez, Albert Suarez, Braulio Lara
3. Bowling Green has some very intriguing starting pitching prospects with
Ryan Carpenter, Parker Markel (both have to improve their K-rates, though)
and especially Felipe Rivero.
3. A有几位令人感兴趣的先发投手,Ryan Carpenter、Parker Markel(两位的三振率都
要再加油),特别值得关注的是Felipe Rivero。
补充:A Jake Floethe, Roberto Gomez
4. The overall organizational pitching, and so also its starters, has been
improving since a horrid start of the season.
4. 农场的投手群,包括先发投手,和惨淡的季初相比都有所进步。
5. There are some very interesting, mostly raw but high potential pitchers
parked in extended spring training. Taylor Guerrieri, Jacob Faria or Blake
Snell could develop into high-end starting pitching prospects.
5. 还有一些球技粗糙但潜力满点的新秀在延长春训营磨练。Taylor Guerrieri、Jacob
Faria或是Blake Snell都有不错的前景。
That said, the high-end depth in SP has definitely taken a hit and could use
some reinforcements through the draft.
结论:高潜力的先发投手相比往年有所下滑,这部分可以透过选秀来补充。
Relief Pitching
Year in, year out, Andrew Friedman and Joe Maddon build an above average
major league bullpen by identifying potential where nobody else sees
potential. Therefore, I'm less concerned about a possible lack of minor
league depth in the relief pitching department, then in other areas.
Nevertheless, the Rays have traded for cheap and controllable bullpen talent
by acquiring young and nearly major league ready pitchers like Josh Lueke or
Brandon Gomes and signed power pitchers who highest likely (or at least as a
suitable fallback option) project as relief pitchers due the draft (Ian
Kendall, Jeff Ames, Jake Thompson, Lenny Linsky, Blake Snell, Jesse Hahn,
...).
一年又一年,Andrew Friedman和Joe Maddon总能透过挖掘被忽视的球员,建立起联盟水平
之上的牛棚,所以和其他位置相比,我并不在意这个位置的深度。但光芒也透过交易找来
便宜且完成度高的年轻投手,像是Josh Lueke或Brandon Gomes;并签下高三振能力且具备
後援投手前景(或至少是合适的备案),像是Ian Kendall、Jeff Ames、Jake Thompson、
Lenny Linsky、Blake Snell和Jesse Hahn……)
With the contracts of most of the Rays late inning saviors (Rodney, Peralta
and Farnsworth) being up after this season, the front office will have its
work laid out in front of them for the upcoming offseason. But, I'm confident
that they find the missing pieces in order to complement the above mentioned
pitchers, as well as converted starting pitchers like Jake McGee, Wade Davis
(for the long run?) and Alex Torres.
随着光芒几位後段局数的後援投手合约到期,制服组需要在接下来这个休赛期进行重整。
但我很有信心他们会找到适合的人选补上上述几位选手的空缺,或是将先发投手转任後援
像是Jake McGee、Wade Davis(长期目标?)和Alex Torres。
Despite the new CBA being a pain in the ass for the Rays, when it comes to
bonus amounts for highschoolers, they should again try to find raw highschool
pitchers with starting pitching potential, who could be converted into
relievers if not panning out in a starting role. Relief pitching, though,
should not be a premiere priority for the franchise entering the 2012 draft
(or any draft).
虽然新的CBA不利於光芒,提供高签约金给A新秀的同时,也必须找来低签约金的B新秀来平
衡签约金总额,这位B新秀可以是位具有先发潜力的投手,但如果发展不顺,也可以转任後
援。但後援投手不应该是今年选秀(或任一年选秀)的优先考量。
Catching
Jose Molina - MLB - .551 OPS
Chris Gimenez - MLB - .491
Jose Lobaton - DL
Robinson Chirinos - DL
Nevin Ashley - DL
Mark Thomas - AA - .542 OPS
Luke Bailey - DL
With the exception of Mayobanex Acosta, no minor or major league catcher
stands out for his (offensive) play this year. The already barren prospect
pool (with Justin O'Conner struggling heavily in his 1st two MiL seasons and
Luke Bailey not fulfilling his potential by draft day) has taken a big hit
due to injuries and bad performances. Unfortunately, the Rays don't draft at
the top of the draft (in order to land Mike Zunino), nor have they acquired a
player like him (still sad about that) during the offseason. Bottom line:
What the Rays need most is a FRANCHISE CATCHER. This draft has some highly
ranked catching prospects behind Mike Zunino, with Stryker Trahan, Peter
O'Brien or Josh Elander. Will the Rays draft a catcher early on, once again,
despite having very limited success with the drafting of catchers in the
past? Or will they sign someone from outside? Something has to be done.
从上面的统计数据可以看出,除了Mayo Acosta,没有任何一位捕手提供进攻上的表现,原
本贫瘠的深度在伤病和糟糕的表现下大受影响(两位被预估有不错前景的Justin O'Conner
和Luke Bailey都没有发挥预期中的潜力,而且目前都躺在DL,其中O'Conner可能因伤整季
都不会上场蹲捕……)。不幸的是,光芒并没有透过选秀(Mike Zunino?!)或休赛期的交易
(Yasmani Grandal?!)为这个位置挹注天赋。底线:光芒需要一位在关键时刻有所表现的捕
手。今年的选秀在Mike Zunino有许多捕手得到不错的排名,像是Stryker Trahan(最近几
次Mock draft,都预测光芒会选他),Peter O'Brien或Josh Elander。在历史纪录不佳的
情况下光芒会再次这麽早选捕手吗?或是他们会从外面进行补充?总之必须有些动作。
补充:A Matthew Rice (具contact和选球,缺乏长打能力。)
EST Oscar Hernandez(去年在VSL打得吓吓叫,今年来到本土证明成色。)
Middle Infield
Much was said about the Rays drafting - what feels like - 10 shortstop
prospects every year. The prospect pool should be laden, you might think?
Fact is, the Rays don't look very well at short in 2012. While Elliot Johnson
and Sean Rodriguez hold the fort with some respectable play in the majors,
Reid Brignac looks like he won't make it, Tim Beckham is suspended and Hak-Yu
Lee seemengly can't (yet) adjust to AA ball. Derek Dietrich is hitting well,
but might have to move off from short and Jake Hager (why no Trevor Story???)
is being outperformed in full-season ball.
许多人对光芒选秀的形容:这球队每年要选10位游击手。你可能会觉得这个位置的深度很
棒,但事实上今年在这个位置的表现差强人意。Elliot Johnson和Sean Rodriguez在大联
盟交出不错的成绩,Reid Brignac持续低迷,Tim Beckham被禁赛,李学周似乎还没适应AA
的强度。Derek Dietrich打得很不错,但可能会换守位,Jake Hager(为何当初不选Trevor
Story??)正在努力克服完整赛季带来的考验。
Summarizing, the Rays do have talent at short in the minors. The talent is
mostly not playing up to its potential, though.
结论,光芒在游击手这个位置有许多人才,虽然他们大多还没展现潜力。
With Tyler Bortnick and Cole Figueroa, who both could turn out to be useful
utility infielders a la Elliot Johnson, the Rays don't have All-Star caliber,
but solid upper minor league depth at 2B. With Ben Zobrist, Jeff Keppinger
and Sean Rodriguez already at the major league level, All-Star depth is not
necessarily needed either. Therefore, 2B should be okay for the upcoming
years, also with players like Derek Dietrich or Tim Beckham possibly moving
over and Ryan Brett or Hector Guevara emerging.
Tyler Bortnick和Cole Figueroa两位都有机会像Elliot Johnson长成合格的内野工具人。
在二垒手的位置,光芒没有全明星等级的新秀,但在小联盟有很棒的深度。由於大联盟还
有Ben Zobrist、Jeff Keppinger和Sean Rodriguez,全明星等级的深度并不是这麽重要。
因为有些球员像是Derek Dietrich或Tim Beckham可能换防二垒,加上Ryan Brett或Hector
Guevara逐渐成长,这个位置的深度还不成问题。
补充:EST Brandon Martin(防守出色,具contact和选球。)
AAA Shawn O'Malley(多守位,具选球,不具长打力。)
Corner Infield
The Bowling Green Hot Rods give hope to the - what seems to be for years -
weakest point of the Rays' minor league system. Both, Jeff Malm and Tyler
Goeddel have the potential to emerge as above average major leaguers. Until
they are ready for the majors, the Rays have to continue to look for stopgap
options across Evan Longoria, though, as the upper minors only have - a much
improved - Henry Wrigley to count for. Therefore, and even despite the 2012
draft looking to be thin at first, the Rays should add one or two potential
power bats to Malm, Goeddel and John Alexander in the lower minors.
缺乏出色的角落内野手一直是光芒的弱点,但今年A的球员们满足了我们长年的期待,Jeff
Malm和Tyler Goeddel有潜力成为大联盟水准之上的打者,在他们准备好上大联盟前,光芒
都必须在Evan Longoria之外,持续寻找暂时的替代人选,因为高阶联盟只有今年大幅进步
的Henry Wrigley值得信赖。虽然今年选秀一垒手深度不足,光芒也应该在Malm、Goeddel
和John Alexander之外,为低阶联盟加入1~2位潜力炮手。
补充:A Cameron Seitzer (具contact和选球,有不错的gap power,但缺乏长打能力)
A+ Philip Wunderlich(和上者相反,具长打能力,contact和选球不佳)
A+ Riccio Torrez (有速度和一点gap power,缺乏长打能力)
Outfield
The best for the end! With Matt Joyce, B.J. Upton, Desmond Jennings and Ben
Zobrist forming one of the best outfields in the majors, the Rays look good
for 2012. Brandon Guyer could/should take the first spot that opens up in the
majors (due to Upton leaving after the season or Zobrist moving back to 2nd)
and contribute regularly in 2013. Sam Fuld, Rich Thompson or Stephen Vogt
then could compete for a possible last spot in the outfield. Behind them,
Kyeong Kang (for a COF spot) and Ty Morrison (for CF) should be in AAA full
time next year and provide solid depth, while with Mikie Mahtook, Josh Sale,
Drew Vettleson, Kes Carter (if healthy), Grandon Goetzman and Johnny Eierman
lots of potential gems have time to grow into future big league roles.
Therefore, and while I definitely expect the Rays to select at least one or
two athletic SS/CF guys in the draft, outfield is THE NEW STRENGTH of the
system and less of a need in this year's draft.
在光芒野手群中,外野是最具深度的位置,Matt Joyce、B.J Upton、Desmond Jennings和
Ben Zobrist组成联盟里最棒的外野阵容之一,今年看起来也很棒。Brandon Guyer是升上
大联盟的第一顺位,Upton明年离队,或是Zobrist移防二垒,都能让他明年获得稳定的出
赛机会。Sam Fuld、Rich Thompson和Stephen Vogt则会竞争外野的最後一席。除此之外
Kyeong Kang和Ty Morrison明年应该都会升上AAA,提供稳定的深度,加上Mikie Mahtook
、Josh Sale、Drew Vettleson、Kes Carter、Grandon Goetzman和Johnny Eierman,这些
潜在金矿有时间长成未来的大联盟选手。加上我预期光芒可能会选入1~2位SS/OF,外野将
是这个农场最新的亮点,也是最不需要透过选秀补强的位置。
补充:A Todd Glaesmann (具备速度,contact和选球不佳。)
EST James Harris (具备速度和选球,contact不佳。)
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1F:推 srysry :先推翻译 今年选秀没多少签 加上这届选秀评为有点虚 05/27 21:23
2F:→ srysry :Raysprospects讨论比较少.... 05/27 21:24
3F:→ srysry :Emmy Romero目前K/9下滑 BB/9没改善 有点失望中... 05/27 21:25
4F:→ srysry :捕手方面 来自DSL的Araiza也可以被期待的捕手新秀 05/27 21:27
5F:→ srysry :可以花一个高顺位赌捕手尽管过去养捕手一直失败就是 05/27 21:28
6F:→ srysry :VSL和DSL目前都能提供一定质量的替补捕手.... 05/27 21:29
7F:→ srysry :Martin应该是SS 去年在GCL都是SS守位 有要换守位? 05/27 21:32
8F:→ srysry :O'Malley主要还是在棒子问题 生涯只有一季OPS超过0.7 05/27 21:34
9F:→ srysry :Seitzer以去年RK的成绩 算是很有炮瓦 还可以再观察 05/27 21:37
10F:→ srysry :Todd Glaesmann具有一定的炮瓦 只是目前没有打出@@ 05/27 21:39
先谢谢sry大补充 XD
Araiza属於防守型捕手,今年意外长出power,不过DSL的成绩水分颇高,有待观察。
Martin基本上是SS(最好的证据就是球团将他和Hager错开,目的就是为了让两个人都先在
SS磨练),会写在那边纯粹是补充mid-infielder,可能s大误会了。 XD
Seitzer当初最被诟病的就是他的power不够站一垒,去年的11支HR也差不多都出现在前几
场比赛,後面就下修很多,是不是慢热还有待观察,不过他的选球和contact真的很成熟,
就看power和防守能不能磨出来了。
11F:推 Edwardex :推翻译~~~~ 05/27 22:21
12F:→ catsondbs :阻杀二垒! 05/28 01:50
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