作者mayfirst (2010AL冠军游骑兵)
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标题[讨论] Inbox: Are free-agent hurlers open to Texas?
时间Tue Dec 21 18:43:02 2010
Inbox: Are free-agent hurlers open to Texas?
Now that the old adage of not being able to pitch in Texas is gone, how
seriously are free-agent pitchers looking at Texas?
-- Matt F., Nacogdoches, Texas
现在投手没办法在游骑兵队(主场)投的很好的时代已经过去了(THANKS Mike
Maddux),自由球员投手们是怎麽看游骑兵队的呢?
Attracting free-agent pitchers is not the issue. The problem is the
relatively low quality of pitchers who end up getting to free agency. Clubs
are locking up the best potential free-agent pitchers to long-term contracts
and letting relatively few ever reach the market.
吸引自由球员投手加盟并不是问题。问题是相对低质量的投手会来到自由球员市场
。球队会花大钱谈长合约绑住最好且即将成为自由球员的投手。
There are 30 pitchers who have won a total of 66 games over the past six
seasons. Of that group, here is the list of pitchers who are signed for at
least two more years through 2012:
CC Sabathia, Roy Halladay, Johan Santana,
Josh Beckett, Dan Haren, Cliff Lee, Derek Lowe, Jake Peavy, Bronson Arroyo,
John Lackey, Justin Verlander, Carlos Zambrano, Ted Lilly, Ervin Santana,
A.J. Burnett, Tim Hudson, Joe Blanton, Felix Hernandez and Barry Zito.
有30位投手过去六年来赢了超过66场比赛。(上述上色投手在2012球季後仍至少有
两年以上的合约在身)
That's 19. The Phillies have an option on Roy Oswalt for '12, as do the
Cardinals on Chris Carpenter and the Dodgers for Jon Garland. The Cardinals
have club options on Adam Wainwright for both '12 and '13.
So who are the other seven? One is Mark Buehrle. He has a chance to be the
best free agent on the market next winter. The others are Livan Hernandez,
Jamie Moyer, Javier Vazquez, Andy Pettitte, Jason Marquis and Brandon Webb.
There just doesn't seem to be that many great free-agent pitchers hitting the
market anymore -- maybe one or two a year. Next winter, it could be Buehrle
and ... C.J. Wilson.
明年冬天可能只有Buerle和...C.J.Wilson等好投手会投身自由球员市场
Why not a seventh year for Lee if it would have brought him back? What's one
more year? In for a penny, in for a pound.
-- Paul F., Fort Worth, Texas
为什麽7年合约还是没办法签回Cliff Lee?
The Rangers were obviously reluctant to go beyond five years and seemed quite
nervous to go six years with an option. Given the chance to go seven years,
the Rangers seemed to sense an opportunity for an honorable retreat and
seized it.
游骑兵队不太愿意给Lee超过5年以上的合约。给他七年的长约是表示对他的敬意和
尊重
Understand that in six to seven years, the Rangers' payroll could be pressed
to the maximum if all these young players are as good as the club expects.
That may seem too far out to worry about, but lack of long-term planning was
a killer for the Rangers until the current plan was put in place four years
ago.
要了解到提供6~7年合约,游骑兵的团队薪资预算很能会爆表(假如队上的年轻球员
都表现的很好一如他们所预期的。而要了解到球队缺乏长期计画是会很致命的。而现在的
建军计画执行了四年
Are the Rangers interested in Adrian Beltre with Michael Young staying in
Texas? Young could be a utility fielder and DH. He can play multiple
positions, so if someone needs a day off he could play their position while
they DH. The Rangers could also move him to first base or left field.
-- Garrett N., Carlisle, Pa.
游骑兵队对Adrian Beltre有兴趣吗?(Michael Young留在队上)。Young可以成为
内野工具人和指定打击。游骑兵队可以把他移防一垒或左外野(!??!)
Problem with that scenario is you would have two similar players combining
for $30 million in payroll. That would greatly hinder payroll flexibility as
far as pitching, Josh Hamilton and Nelson Cruz goes. Don't forget that Elvis
Andrus is arbitration-eligible after next season. Beltre is a good player,
but he is not Mike Schmidt and he turns 32 next June. He has also been on one
playoff team in 12 years.
问题是你队上有两个守备位置类似的球员,而他们加起来的新资超过30M镁。
薪资应该花在投手,Hamilton和Cruz续约身上。别忘了Andrus明年球季结束後也具有仲裁资
格。Beltre很棒,但他不是Mike Schmidt,明年6月才32岁。
Did the Rangers lose their first-round Draft pick with the signing of Yorvit
Torrealba?
-- Cody C., Llano, Texas
No. Torrealba was a Type B free agent. The Padres get an extra sandwich round
pick as compensation, but the Rangers do not lose a first-round pick. That is
only for a Type A free agent.
(这问题就不翻了~~签Torrealba不会丢选秀权~~)
Is Seth McClung a real candidate for the Rangers rotation? It doesn't seem to
be an exciting pickup. Can't they do better than that?
-- Elizabeth R., Arlington
Seth McClung会是真的先发轮值圈的竞争人选吗?签下他并不会让人感觉到特别兴
奋。他们难道没有更好的选择吗?
McClung is part of the usual offseason roundup of non-roster players signed
to Minor League contracts with an invitation to Spring Training. These
players are crucial to providing depth and, occasionally, they end up being
better than expected. But they are usually not being counted on to make the
team. McClung's best chance is to fill the long reliever/swing starter role
that Dustin Nippert once held down. McClung is 16-25 with a 5.88 ERA in 51
career starts.
签下McClung只是例行性填满小联盟先发阵容&春训邀请名单的动作。他们提供板凳
深度,偶尔会表现的超乎预期。在Nippert离队之後,McClung是最好的长中继/谷间先发的
人选。
What's Eric Hurley's situation? He pitched very well in the AFL, but from
what I understand he wasn't offered a contract.
-- Robert L., Jacksonville, Fla.
Eric Hurley的定位什麽?他在亚历桑纳联盟表现的很棒,但是我很想知道他为什麽
没有被提供合约?
Hurley, after missing two complete seasons because of shoulder and wrist
problems, was 3-0 with a 1.82 ERA in six games in the Arizona Fall League. He
is still on the 40-man roster. He will be in Spring Training and most likely
start the season in the Triple-A Round Rock rotation. He is 25 and could
still be an option for the Rangers at some point next season.
Hurley因肩膀和手脕伤势错失两个完整球季。他现在仍在40人名单内。他会在春训
名单里而且2011球季很可能会从小联盟3A出发。他才25岁且仍会是游骑兵队明年的投手选
择之一。
Chris Ray and Bengie Molina played for Texas and San Francisco during 2010.
We know that Molina got a share (and a World Series ring) from each team. Did
Ray also get a share (and a ring) from each team?
-- Tom P., York, Pa.
The players decide who gets the shares and both Molina and Ray received
financial rewards from each team. Double-dipping as it were, but they weren't
the ones who made the trade. It is up to the team who gets a ring. Ray will
certainly be satisfied with getting a ring from the Giants and that will
certainly be forthcoming.
(球迷问题好多,这篇跳过不翻。没拿下世界冠军+Lee走人+Molina世界大赛开打前
就喊着退休一整个不高兴~~)
What is happening with Molina? Did I miss something or has he retired? He
would be a great fit with Torrealba.
-- Les T., Dallas
Molina近况如何?或者他已经退休了?他和Torrealba在捕手位置上的轮值搭配会很
棒~
Molina has informed people that he wants to play again in '11. Not sure he
has come to grips, though, with the idea of being a backup catcher.
Molina2011球季还想打~
Why are there so many teams interested in Brandon McCarthy? Does he still
have upside or what?
-- Tyler K., Keller, Texas
为什麽那麽多球队对Brandon McCarthy有兴趣?
Because every single team out there, especially those that don't have big
payrolls, are hoping to get lucky on cheap pitching that comes with low
salaries and potentially high upside. McCarthy still has significant
potential, despite an extensive history of injuries.
因为每个球队需求都不同,加上他们大部分都没有很高的预算。他们希望以低薪
签下有潜力但是可能有痛痛史的选手。(乐透一张?)
Would the Rangers ever consider trading Julio Borbon and Tommy Hunter for
Colby Rasmus from St. Louis?
-- Shawn M., Carrollton, Texas
游骑兵队有考虑过送出Julio Borbon和Tommy Hunter到红雀队交易来Colby Rasmus
吗?
This is an extremely fascinating trade proposal that would take a leap of
faith on both sides. By trading Hunter, the Rangers leave another hole in a
rotation that already took a hit with Lee's departure. The Cardinals have to
be convinced that Borbon is a legitimate leadoff hitter and front-line center
fielder, and Hunter can be a consistent 13-15 game winner in the rotation.
Rasmus is as good of a pick as anybody to have a breakout season in '11. My
guess here is the Rangers would be more likely to do this than the Cardinals.
在Lee的离开以後游骑兵先发轮值圈破了一个大洞。红雀队必须备说服Borbon是一
位很棒的一棒打者&一线中外野手人选。Hunter可以成为很稳定每年提供13~15胜的轮值圈
成员。Rasmus会是很棒的选择如果2011球季有爆炸性的进步。我的推测是游骑兵队倾向维
持现状~(应该没翻错原意吧)
Just wondering why Josh Johnson's name never comes up? The Marlins have
always traded their talent rather than sign their talent, so why wouldn't the
Rangers go after him?
-- Michael R., Cleburne, Texas
为什麽有辉煌卖队上明星球员记录的马林鱼队的Josh Johnson一直没有出现乳摸?
游骑兵队为什麽不去追逐他?
Johnson, who led the National League in ERA this past season, is signed by
the Marlins for three more years. He gets $7.5 million in '11 and then, after
the Marlins move into their new stadium, he gets $13.5 million in both '12
and '13. The Marlins have no interest in trading him. He is quite affordable
next year and then they expect a big increase in revenues with their new
park. He is not in the same position as Zack Greinke was before his trade to
Milwaukee.
Johnson合约还有三年。2011球季薪水$7.5镁,2012&2013球季$13.5镁。马林鱼队
没有兴趣交易他,而且他们预期盖新球场後会有很棒的收入。他和Zack Greinke的情形和
等级是不一样的。
I haven't heard anything about Brandon Webb. Is he still an option for this
club?
-- Andrew M., Waco, Texas
randon Webb的乳摸?他会是游骑兵队另一个选择吗?(这位乡民
lag了,今天就有了啊~~)
There are a number of teams who think that Webb could make a strong comeback
after missing almost two complete seasons because of shoulder problems. The
Rangers don't appear to be feeling as strongly about that proposition as
other teams and don't appear to be in position to sign him.
有很多球队认为Webb会有很棒的复归球季。但游骑兵并不是很认真的去追求他。
(恩,马上被球团高层打脸了~~)
Have the Rangers given any thought to signing a guy like Chien-Ming Wang? If
he can be healthy, his sinker could work well in a place like Texas and he
was a No. 1 starter not too long ago.
-- Lawrence L., Plano, Texas
游骑兵有没有想过要签下类似王建民这一类型的球员?他的
伸卡球很适合由游骑兵主场,而且他不久之前是No.1先发投手~
The Rangers need a fifth starter. Wang, who will be 30 on Opening Day, missed
all of last year because of shoulder surgery. He was 1-6 with a 9.64 ERA for
the Yankees in '09. He has re-signed with the Nationals. Michal Kirkman, 24,
was 13-3 with a 3.09 ERA at Triple-A last year and had a 1.65 ERA for the
Rangers in 14 relief appearances. Wouldn't Kirkman make more sense?
游骑兵队需要第五号先发投手。王建民在明年开幕将满30岁。他已经和国民队续约
了。而24岁的Michal Kirkman2010球季在3A有13胜3败,3.09的防御率。而大联盟出赛14场
,防御率仅1.65,为何Kirkman不会是更好的先发人选呢?
资料来源:MLB官网(Rangers)
http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101219&content_id=
16346262&vkey=news_tex&c_id=tex
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2010 Texas Rangers Postseason Franchise Roster
(SP)Cliff Lee (C)Benjie Molina (1B)Mitch Moreland (2B)Ian Kinsler
(SS)Elvis Andrus (3B)Michael Young (LF)David Murphy (CF)Josh Hamilton
(RF)Nelson Cruz (DH)Vladimir Guerrero (SP)C.J. Wilson (SP)Colby Lewis
(CL)Neftali Feliz (RP)Darren O'Day (RP)Darren Oliver (SP)Derek Holland
(RP)Alexi Ogando (RP)Michael Kirkman (C)Matt Treanor (OF)Julio Borbon
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1F:推 WuAShan:可惜葛格回国民了~希望能签到Webb 12/21 23:41
2F:推 pei719:第一个问题应该是:为何不给Lee七年约? 12/26 09:35
3F:→ pei719:而作者认为Rangers本来就对六年约很敏感了,现在Lee一定要 12/26 09:37
4F:→ pei719:七年约,刚好给了Rangers一个台阶下 12/26 09:39