原始标题 Federal government going ahead with high-speed rail between Quebec City and Toronto 加拿大联邦政府正推进魁北克市与多伦多之间的的高铁计画 新闻网址 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/high-speed-rail-canada-1.7365835 发表日期 台湾时间2024年10月29日早上4时34分 全文完整内容 The Trudeau government will announce plans for a high-speed train linking Quebec City and Toronto in the coming weeks, Radio-Canada has learned. Proponents of the project hope the train will take passengers from Montreal to Toronto in three hours. By car, it takes about five-and-a-half hours to travel between the two cities. Sources told Radio-Canada the train will travel 300 kilometres per hour — double the speed of Via Rail's current trains. Ottawa announced plans back in 2021 to build what it called a "high-frequency" (HFR) rail corridor with stops in Toronto, Peterborough, Ottawa, Montreal, Trois-Rivières, Laval and Quebec City. Sources told Radio-Canada the federal government has now decided the Toronto-Quebec City link will be high-speed. The train would use a newly built, separate electrified track and run frequently. In addition to Quebec City, Montreal and Toronto, it would serve Trois-Rivières, Laval, Ottawa and Peterborough. Sources told Radio-Canada the federal government has chosen a winning bidder out of three competing consortia and is expected to announce the news in the next few weeks. A spokesperson for Transport Minister Anita Anand wouldn't confirm the news because the contract has not been awarded. Finalizing the contract could take several more months. "No contract has been awarded to a consortium for the rail project in the Quebec City-Toronto corridor," the spokesperson said. "Our Liberal government has an ambitious, transformative plan for Canada's future." At an economic conference in Toronto on Oct. 16, Anand said the federal government "is going ahead with one of three bids that we have now received for high-frequency, high-speed rail. "Rail is going to improve productivity, it's going to improve efficiency, it's going to lower carbon emissions, and it's going to allow for more housing to be built on these rail lines." The government selected three consortia to bid on a high-frequency rail project between Quebec City and Toronto. A source close to the file said the bidding consortia warned Ottawa that ridership would be lower with a high-frequency train than with a high-speed one, since customers are looking for the shortest possible trip. In addition, VIA HFR Inc., the Crown corporation created in November 2022 to develop a rail corridor between Quebec City and the rest of Canada, is expected to change its name to refer to more than just high-frequency trains. According to a government source, the consortia's work demonstrated that the high-speed rail option was "much less expensive than originally anticipated." Transport Canada initially estimated that the cost of a high-speed rail link between the two cities could be as high as $80 billion. The three consortia selected by the government are: Cadence, made up of CDPQ Infra, SNC-Lavalin, Systra Canada and Keolis Canada; Intercity Rail Developers, which includes EllisDon Capital, Kilmer Transportation, First Rail Holdings, Jacobs, Hatch, CIMA+, FirstGroup, RATP Dev Canada and Renfe Operadora; and QConnexiON Rail Partners, made up of Fengate, John Laing, Bechtel, WSP Canada and German Rail. It's not known which of the consortia won the tender. As the project office owns all the bids, it could use elements from each one in the final project. The project will be jointly developed by the federal government and the private consortium. It's expected to take four to five years to design the future high-speed line. Funds are to be allocated at the end of that time period, so it's possible a future government could modify or cancel the project. High-speed rail could pay for itself: expert Pierre Barrieau, a lecturer in transportation planning at the Université de Montréal and consultant with the firm Gris Orange, said a high-speed rail link could help pay for itself by eliminating the need to build new highways and airports. "We're building a project like this for [the next] 150 years," he said. "Canada deserved better than a high-frequency train." Barrieau said he also believes a high-frequency — but not high-speed — train would not have brought about "a transformation in mobility" and customer demand would have been too low. He also said he wouldn't be surprised if the project ends up costing $120 billion. Paul Langan, founder of the advocacy group called High Speed Rail Canada, said he hopes the pending announcement means Canada is at "a turning point." "I think it'd be like the U.S.A., where once you finally get it somewhere, another corridor all of a sudden springs up," Langan said. He suggested that a high-speed rail project between Edmonton and Calgary would likely be the next best option. Countries with economies less developed than Canada's already have high-speed trains. Turkey has the YHT and Poland the PKP, which can reach speeds of 250 km/h. Morocco's Al Boraq peaks at 320 km/h. Indonesia has just inaugurated the Whoosh, which goes up to 350 km/h. Brazil has a high-speed rail project underway and India is importing the Japanese Shinkansen model. 概略翻译： 根据CBC所获得的资讯指出，加拿大执政的杜鲁道（Justin Trudeau）政府即将在数周内 宣布多伦多—魁北克市高铁计画。该计画将新建独立於在来线的电气化路线，营运速度预 计达到每小时300公里，并提升服务密度。目前该高铁计画有三方竞标，得标者预计将在 数月内出线。加拿大交通部尚未证实此一消息。 加拿大政府於2021年宣布将打造「高班次密度」（High-Frequency，HFR）的铁路廊道， 计画中的停靠站包括安大略省多伦多、彼得堡（Peterborough）与渥太华；魁北克省拉瓦 尔（Laval）、蒙特娄、三河市与魁北克市。消息来源指出，联邦政府近日拍版，本计画 将以高速铁路规格建造。 加拿大政府先前粗估，建设成本可能高达加币800亿元（约台币1.85兆元）。另设计料需时4至5年。 三家政府拣定的竞标厂商为： 1.Cadence CDPQ Infra, SNC-Lavalin, Systra Canada and Keolis Canada 2.Intercity Rail Developers EllisDon Capital, Kilmer Transportation, First Rail Holdings, Jacobs, Hatch, CIMA+, FirstGroup, RATP Dev Canada and Renfe Operadora 3.QConnexiON Rail Partners Fengate, John Laing, Bechtel, WSP Canada and German Rail. 心得感想 看到这新闻真的是痛哭流涕 加拿大国内线航空把乘客当盘子肥羊 VIA铁路则是毫无竞争力的票价跟速度 客运精美四排座真的是谢了 加拿大城际交通真的是任航空业宰割 另外这几年减碳成为趋势 加拿大也是卯起来盖都会区铁路 无论是东岸的蒙特娄、渥太华、多伦多 或是西岸的温哥华、卡加利、爱德蒙顿 每座大城都有计划正在进行 希望台湾也能多多推进适合本地的大众运输 附图： 多伦多铁道博物馆一隅 扇形车库变餐厅转车台只能想像 https://imgur.com/fkMkQSB 多伦多市中心根本路电天堂 但驾驶水准也是...绝非个案 https://imgur.com/G44vIE5 #PTTRailway --

※ 发信站: 批踢踢实业坊(ptt.cc), 来自: 24.114.38.166 (加拿大) ※ 文章网址: https://webptt.com/cn.aspx?n=bbs/Railway/M.1730171035.A.567.html 这条高铁沿线大约是加拿大一半人口居住的廊带 确实是早就该盖了 但明年大选没意外是会政党轮替 保守党应该会执政 虽然他们大本营Alberta省也说要盖高铁 不过不确定现任党魁会对高铁计画是否有兴趣 还要看联邦政府怎麽跟安省、魁省乔财源 未来还是有许多变数 目前还没看到细部规划的内容 但CBC有张比较图标示大概是900公里 专家是认为造价应该会到1200亿加币（约台币2.75兆元） 如果能盖到温莎真的是最好 但没经过Kingston有点可惜（虽然是绕路） 加拿大常见的是庞巴迪、西门子、阿尔斯通这几家 倒是多伦多机场快綫是用日本车辆的柴联车 整个就是集集线、平溪线的感觉（？） VIA客运列车必须待避生意兴隆的货运列车 （拥有路线所有权与优先权） 误点时间跟惊喜包没两样 真的不是出门的好选择 ※ 编辑: NipponKitano (24.114.26.189 加拿大), 10/31/2024 06:44:34