嗯，晚点有空的话再重点提示XD 其中一段话超级感人，滚石专访中Flea提到他需要两年的时间脱离红椒一下， 在这篇访问中他提到： "My time away from the band has really made me appreciate it and also realize how much I love Anthony Kiedis. The dude's my brother. I realized how much it meant to me to continue playing with him and Red Hot Chili Peppers." "我很珍惜离开红椒的时间，然而这也让我明白我有多爱AK。 这家伙是我的兄弟。我了解到继续与他和红椒们玩音乐对我有多重要。" http://www.spin.com/articles/qa-flea-new-chili-peppers-album On August 30, Los Angeles’ alt-funk rockers Red Hot Chili Peppers will end a five-year break and return with their 10th studio album, I’m With You. We caught up with bassist Flea to chat about the band’s hiatus, the departure (again!) of longtime guitarist John Frusciante, and how the quartet “found a new side of ourselves” in the process. It’s been five years since the release of RHCP’s last album, Stadium Arcadium. Did you guys plan for it to be this long? Yeah. It was planned. I initiated that. I just really needed to get away from [the band]. It had come to a point where it felt dysfunctional and not fun. Even though I felt that we made a good record, played good shows, and honored our position in the rock world, I wanted to get away to give the band a chance to survive. Having time off was really good. I went to school and studied music for a year at USC [University of Southern California], which unlocked a bunch of doors for me in terms of my relationship to music. My time away from the band has really made me appreciate it and also realize how much I love [singer] Anthony [Kiedis]. The dude’s my brother. I realized how much it meant to me to continue playing with him and Red Hot Chili Peppers. 记者问到红椒们是计画好这麽久才出新专辑吗？ 是的，因为Flea坚持给他两年时间，因为他开始觉得怪怪的、不再有趣了 即便他们各方面表现都很棒，但他还是想暂时远离这一切 然後就说到他回学校学习，以及他与AK感情有多坚贞 Then guitarist John Frusciante left… for the second time. Why? It’s not any one thing. He just didn’t want to do [RHCP] anymore. He really wanted to do what he wants to do on his own, without having to deal with the band dynamic, our band dynamic. I’m grateful for the time John was in the band. It was an amazing time. It was a bonding, creative experience and I’m grateful for it. 记者问说John又一次离团了，为什麽？ Flea回说其实没有什麽特别原因，他就是不想再做红椒了 他想好好做他自己想做的事，不想再处理乐团的事情 Flea对John很感恩，因为那段时光很美好。 Is the new album finished? Yeah, we’re done. It’s been such a big process getting it done and I’m very happy with the body of work. It’s a real dynamic and new thing. We’ve found a new side of ourselves. 新专辑完成了吗？ 完成了，而且有很多创新，发掘出大家的新面貌 How so? Well, first off, the major difference is that John is no longer in the band and Josh Klinghoffer is now the guitar player. While it’s nice that Josh was already a part of our family, having made records and joined us on our last tour, he’s a very different musician than John. Because of that, the feeling of the music is a lot different. John is a brilliant virtuoso guitar player, who could do whatever he wants on the guitar. It’s unbelievable and I’m so fucking grateful for his contributions to the band. But Josh is a subtler textural player who also plays and writes on a lot of different instruments. He’s not like this Guitar Hero type. 怎麽说呢？ 首先，当然是John已经离开了，新加入了Josh Josh已经是这家族一份子相当多年，而他与John也是截然不同的两种音乐人 因为他们对音乐的感受就不同。 John是十分杰出的吉他大师，他可以用吉他做任何他想做的东西 这实在很不可思议，我真的很感激可以和他一起对乐团做出贡献 但Josh则是灵巧又具组织性的乐手，他可以用许多不同乐器演奏且创作 他不算是"吉他英雄"那类型的人 And that’s a total shift from the band’s previous songwriting style… Right. Before, we wrote by jamming together and Anthony would add his parts afterwards. Now it’s a much different approach. It took some time, for me particularly being so used to the way that John wrote, to understand the way Josh would interact with what I played. It was like, ‘Wait, I thought you were going to come up with that perfect part that interlocks with what I’m doing and boom, it’s going to be done.’ With Josh, it creeps up on you. He sings beautiful background vocals on this record, too. 所以乐团的创作风格有很大的改变罗？ 是的，过去我们会先jam然後Anthony加入 这需要一些时间调适与Josh间的互动，由其是我，因为我已经习惯John的创作方式 过去的方式是很快速的，一下子就完成了 但和Josh，一切都是很慢条斯理的进行着 而且他在专辑中有很美丽的合声 How did your time studying music change your relationship to the band? It made for a big difference in me as a writer. I studied chord theory and started playing the piano. So I wrote a lot for the record on piano. Before I wrote for the band mostly on the bass. On the piano I’m writing chord, rhythm, bass, and melody, so it’s a much different input from me. A lot of these songs were translated to a rock band. So we’re starting with a song written on a different instrument, then translating it right away. It’s a huge difference in the creative process and the end product. It has the violent rocking sound and it’s real funky. There are some beautiful, deep songs that can connect to people’s hearts. Anthony is singing about some big issues for human beings. 研习音乐改变了你与乐团的关系吗？ 最大的不同就是让我变成的作家。 过去我都是用贝斯创作，这次我则用了很多钢琴 我们用不同乐器写歌，然後把它转译成摇滚的语言，过程与成品都有极大的不同。 有猛烈激情的摇滚，十分funky，也有美丽深沉可以触动人心的 Anthony这次创作的重点是人 Like what? About life and death and betrayal and his relationship to the world. It’s much more poignant than our other records. Life and death is a major theme. [The album] has a deep heart. Everyone in the band has grown and continued to reinvent themselves and become a better musician, and collectively we did. We were forced to. 像是什麽？ 生、死与背叛，以及他与世界的关系，比起旧作更为酸楚 生与死是主题。这张专辑有一颗深沉的心。 团内的每个人都成长了，并且重新出发成为一位更好的音乐人 Did anything happen to push you guys in this direction? Yeah. The first day that we ever played together with Josh after taking two years off, we found out that a very close friend of all of ours had died. We started jamming and came up with a song that’s on the record, called “ Brendan’s Death Song,” about our friend [L.A. punk icon] Brendan Mullen. We improvised and it happened. It was a poignant moment for us. It was an emotional thing. 是有发生了什麽事，才将你们推往正确的路上吗？ 是的，我们聚首的第一天，就得知一位好友过世的消息 我们便开始jam然後生出了一首歌叫做"Brendan’s Death Song"， 纪念我们的好友。 我们这样即兴地开头，然後也完成了。 那一刻很酸楚，让人神伤 And that set the tone for the album? Sort of. We’re the type of band that has ideas about what we want to do and what we’re reaching for, but it’s really about what happens when we get together in the room. It’s about what will organically grow from who we are at the time. 所以新专辑的风格就因为这样定了吗？ 算是吧，我们是从"我们将要做"，以及"我们想要达成什麽"的中间寻找灵感的乐团 但也还是取决於同聚在小房间里所产生的变化 I hear the album is also inspired by African music. Definitely. We’ve always all loved African music. Throughout our career we’ ve played some African bits, but we never really captured it right. Josh and I tripped around Ethiopia with a group called Africa Express, which Damon Albarn [Blur, Gorillaz] organized. We saw music every night and jammed with musicians. Ethiopia is such a great country, beautiful place. So there are a couple African parts on the new songs. One is called “Take Me Home,” which has a real African feeling, and there’s another called “Ethiopia.” I’m really grateful to Damon for bringing me along. It really widened my scope of humanity. 我听说你们也受到非洲音乐的启发 当然。我们一直都很爱非洲音乐。这十多年来我们一直有在把玩非洲节奏， 但一直都没能掌握精随 Josh和我去了一趟衣索比亚。 我们每个晚上都看到什麽是音乐，然後跟音乐家互jam 很感谢能够去到那哩，让我拓展了对人性的视野 I think that picture of Ethiopia is different from how a lot of people imagine it… All I knew about Ethiopia was from a few records that I like, as well as what I read about the famine. But you get there and it’s another world. It’s filled with art and music and poetry and intellectuals and writers — all kinds of people. I went to this town called Harar and there is a Mosque and a Christian church right next to each other, and everyone gets along. They’re devout about their faith, but they’re really tolerant. I was walking down the street with this Ethiopian dude, and he’s like, ‘Oh fuck, dude, I gotta take a shit,’ so he just walked up to a random door in this neighborhood, and the residents were like, ‘Come right in and use my bathroom.’ They don’ t do that shit in L.A., man. ‘Excuse me, Arnold Schwarzenegger, can I take a shit at your house?’ 不过我想一般人所想的衣索比亚应该不是这样子的... 我透过几张专辑认识衣索比亚，也知道饥荒的事 但是当你到了那边就真的是另外一个世界。 充满艺术、音乐、诗、知识份子与作家，各式各样的人 我到一个小镇看见清真寺与教堂比邻而居，每个人都很和谐 他们虽然信仰分歧，但都满怀包容 我跟一个当地人走在街上，然後他说"靠杯，我要去大个便。" 然後他就随机走进附近的一户人家，住户也一副"欢迎来我家上厕所"的样子 在洛杉矶可没办法这样啊！你会说： "抱歉啊，阿诺史瓦辛格，可以到你家大个便吗？" (XDDDD) Speaking of weird shit, you recently ran a marathon. That sounds painful. [Laughs] I did that to raise money for my non-profit music school, the Silverlake Conservatory of Music. It costs a bunch of money to run, so I’m always trying to raise dough. And I read this book called Born to Run and it got me excited about running, and I had never been a runner before. I trained up and ran the marathon — and it was awesome. The training was fun and running the marathon was a fucking cathartic, beautiful experience. It was tough, but I like tough! I mean, I’m kind of a pussy as a guy, I’ve never been in a fight or anything, so not tough like that. But I like pushing my body. I pushed it too hard a couple times and injured myself. But after running for a while things really start to open up in your body. I felt like I ’d tapped into parts of my body that I hadn’t before. I let things in the universe flow through me that opened me up in a really cool way. It was pouring rain during the whole race — it was freezing. But it was a blast. If I weren’t gearing up for the tour right now, I’d be training for another one. 说到怪事，你不久前参加了马拉松，应该很痛苦吧 我是为了非营利的音乐学校募款，加上我看了Born to Run这本书， 让我很想要跑一跑，而且我以前从来没跑过。 训练很有趣，跑马拉松则是一种净化、美丽的体验。 很艰辛，但是我爱艰辛！ 我是说，我在男人中像是个娘娘腔，我从来没有费心力努力争取过什麽， 没有像马拉松这样困难过。 因此我鞭策自己，鞭策过了头我也受伤了。 但是跑完後真的觉得身体被释放了。 如果现在不是要准备做巡回的话，我会开始准备受训参加另一场比赛。 Do you listen to music while you’re training? Never. I don’t like it. It’s like my senses are so overwhelmed already, so full. The sound of my heartbeat, my footsteps, running up in this canyon here in Malibu, the birds, the animals, the sights, it’s so much already. It’s a beautiful thing. 你训练时会听音乐吗？ 不会，我不喜欢。因为我的感官已经超载了。 心跳的声音，步伐，跑在马里布的峡谷上，鸟，动物，景色，已经太多了 这真的很美 --

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