※ 引述《Foxhound (Ares)》之铭言： : ※ 引述《oakleysee (Adam)》之铭言： : : http://www.pokerhand.org/?2204498 : : no read on opponents. The button 3 bet seems like stealing. : : <maybe not cuz its 7.5BB raise> : : This JJ I plan not to play post flop so I decide to re-raise as a test. : : My question is: should I just fold here? or make it $23 to go? : : $29 seems too large for me to throw it away. : : Appreciate any comments...;) : Personally, I think the biggest mistake you made was that : you played a big pot with no read on your opponent. : But I also don't understand your thought process when you : A) decided not to play the hand post flop : JJ is a big hand in a 6-handed game, but it's still not an automatic all in. : When I have JJ my plan is not to get all in, but to make my opponents pay to : draw. Against good players, I don't mind just flat calling a bet and a raise : and taking a flop with them...especially when you don't know where you are in : the hand. Three-betting pre-flop is by no means a terrible play, but I feel : that keeping the pot smaller with a hand like JJ will usually get you more : value when you are ahead, while giving you a chance to get away (or suck out : :P) if you are behind. This is the "small ball" approach that players such : as Daniel Negreanu like to employ. : B) re-raised for information but didn't use it : As I've stated before, three-betting isn't a bad play here, and I like the : amount that you chose to raise. But when the action came back to you, you were : clearly beat. Low limit players online will almost never "four-bet" bluff you, : especially pre-flop. The best case scenario would be that you are up against : AK in a coin flip, but most of the times here you'd find yourself a 4.5-to-1 : underdog against AA, KK (and sometimes QQ). The fact that you already have $29 : in the pot shouldn't matter here. Once you make the raise the chips belong to : the pot and should be considered "sunk cost". : I'm new to bbs and this discussion board, but I've played Hold'em for five : years and would enjoy meeting other poker enthusiasts in Taiwan :) : By the way, I can type in Chinese fine (just not very fast). Great comments! I think I am happy to take the second recommendation. The reason I don't like to flat call is here: http://www.pokerhand.org/?2164491 My another JJ hand - how do I play this small small small board, without identifying where my JJ stands preflop? I don't know how to continute playing this hand however shove could be the worst decision. That's why I don't like to play post flop with JJ in a 3-bet pot. :) --

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