原文出处： http://0rz.tw/a63J2 -- Forty-seven games. 34 and 13. Its hard to argue with that record. This season has been an emotional rollercoaster for fans as the spectre of last season’s early exit still haunts most fans and their patience is short when it comes to the promised changes Dumars proclaimed. Instead of rattling off some random observations or some one sided tirade about how we’re sinking despite all that winning, I tried to gather some cold, hard facts. Sure, stats don’t tell the whole story; they may not even tell the most accurate story but I wanted to present something rooted in objectivity. 47场比赛，34胜13败。这样的成绩已经没什麽好挑剔的了。这个球季球迷的心情就像 搭了一趟云霄飞车，因为上个球季季後赛意外提早中箭落马的恶梦还挥之不去，而他们对 於老乔宣布说情况一定会有所改变这件事已经逐渐失去了等待的耐心。与其无视於球队赢 多输少的事实，滔滔不绝地说一些瞎扯的观察结果或一些不公的长篇大论，我宁愿试着去 收集一些冰冷生硬的事实。是的，数据无法显示事情的全貌；他们甚或无法显示最准确的 一面，但我还是希望能藉由它来客观地陈述一些事情。 -- Solid or Stagnant? 不动如山还是停滞不前？ The Pistons starting five is ranked the 2nd most efficient combination by lenovo stats. They also logged the 2nd most minutes as a unit behind the New Orleans. The Pistons main core of Billups, Hamilton, Prince, Wallace and McDyess has been durable and mostly injury free. The +/- drop off when Maxiell enters for either McDyess or Wallace is substantial dropping from 171 to 34. However, Arron Afflalo plays as part of the statistically most effective units next to the main starting five when you take into account that nothing is nearly as productive as the core. 活塞先发五虎的lenovo +/- stats(球员在场上那段时间内，球队与对手比较的得失分 差。)在联盟中名列第二。他们同时上场的时间也仅次於纽奥良黄蜂的先发五人。活塞主力 包括枪蜥、RIP、小王子、溪蛙和袋鼠都很耐战而且甚少受到伤病影响。不过这项+/-数据 在J-Max上场顶替袋鼠或溪蛙任一人时就会从171大幅下降至34。撇开先发五虎望其项背的 数据不说，包含Arron Afflalo的组合是最有效率的。 Other teams sporting highly effective units with big time minutes are New Orleans and unsurprisingly; Boston. Speaking of drop offs, the Celtics have an all too similar drop off going from 213 to 31 once they start rotating in other players. Like to think that Boston has no bench? Statistically speaking, it’s not like we have some highly effective but under utilized combination. 先发五人同时上场时间很多而且还拥有超高效率的球队包括纽奥良以及一点也不令人 意外的；波士顿。说到数据在某先发球员下场休息时大幅下降，塞尔提克和活塞有极度相 似问题，只要某先发球员下场休息，这项数据就会从213大幅下降至31。这意味着波士顿没 什麽板凳深度？以数据来看，他们似乎不像我们拥有一些有效而且常用的组合。 Coming in fourth as of this writing is Utah. San Antonio has dealt with an injured Ginobli and seems to be rotating its centers evenly. Dallas has also been dealing with a stream of injuries to Dampier and Jones. 这项数据的第四名是犹他。而圣安东尼奥为了应付Ginobili的伤势，在中锋的调度上 采取了齐头式的做法(意思就是没有什麽特别有效率的固定组合，中锋人选一直无法固定) 。达拉斯也面临了Dampier和Jones接连挂病号的伤兵问题。 Rip Hamilton has clocked in 1482 minutes at a 35.3 per game. That puts him on par with Ricky Davis and Ben Gordon and surprisingly, Kevin Garnett. Next is Billups at 1429 (34 mpg) and Prince at 1486 (33.8 mpg). McDyess and Wallace get in about 31 minutes per game. Maxiell, our “6th Man” clocks in 22.8 minutes per game. For comparison, Deron Williams averages 36.8 minutes per game, Yao Ming 37.3, Steve Nash 34.1 and Ben Wallace 32.4. RIP上场总时数是1482分钟，平均每场比赛上场35.3分钟。那让他的平均上场时间与 Ricky Davis、班蛙以及令人讶异地，Kevin Garnett相近。接下来是枪蜥的1429分钟(平均 每场34分钟)和小王子的1486分钟(平均每场33.8分钟)，而袋鼠和溪蛙每场比赛大约上场31 分钟。J-Max，我们的"第六人"每场比赛上场22.8分钟。举一些对照组，Deron Williams平 均上场36.8分钟、姚明平均上场37.3分钟、Steve Nash平均上场34.1分钟，班蛙则是32.4 分钟。 -- It doesn’t matter what your name is! 你叫什麽名字都不重要！ Before the season started, the Pistons traded Carlos Delfino to the Toronto Raptors for two 2nd round picks. Many speculated that Grant Hill would make a return or that it would open a spot for budding Amir Johnson. Hill never played a minute for Detroit and Amir wasn’t far behind. Enter Jarvis Hayes. Hayes was touted as a more efficient scorer – that missing punch off the bench. 在球季开始前，活塞把Carlos Delfino交易至多伦多暴龙换取两枚第二轮选秀权。很 多人都在猜Grant Hill将会回锅或者稚嫩的Amir Johnson将会拥有更多上场机会磨练。 Hill根本没穿底特律球衣上场打球而Amir也相差不远，但是来了一个Jarvis Hayes。据球 探回报，Hayes应该是一个更有效率的得分手 - 是球队目前欠缺的板凳暴徒。 Hayes has lived up to those expectations…by 0.7 %. He is chipping in 1.4 pts more per game as well. He’s getting roughly the same minutes Delfino had last year at 16.6. All that scoring for -0.7 rebounds and -0.4 steals. If we take a look at Maurice Evans’ tenure as the backup at 3, it becomes apparent that whomever you stick there, you’re going to get 15 minutes, 5 pts and 3 rebounds . Any bets on what Walter Hermann would average if he signed on as Tay’s backup? My money is on 6 pts, 3 rebounds in 16.5 minutes. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Hayes只有达到原本大家对他期望的...大概0.7%。他分得的上场时间和去年Delfino相 差无几，平均得分比Delfino多了1.4分，不过少了0.7个篮板和0.4个抄截。如果我们回顾 Maurice Evan担任三号位置替补时的表现，似乎就能很明显地看出，不管谁来扮演这个角 色，你大概会分到15分钟的上场时间，拿下5分和3篮板。如果要赌Walter Hermann被签下 作为小王子的替补表现如何？我猜大概是平均16.5分钟，6分和3篮板。其他变数越多，他 们的表现就越不会有改变。 -- Number 2 pick…presto! 第二顺位选秀...转眼间！ With Darko finally proving some supporters fwrong (or is it that he STILL hasn’t found the right situation?) we can concentrate on our consolation prize : Rodney Stuckey. The buzz around the new kid was electric as he tore up summer league. A broken hand slowed his development and the rookie has struggled mightily as of late. Looking at other guards around the league, Durant is doing his number 2 overall thing in Seattle. Conley has made Stoudamire cry uncle in Memphis by making the starting lineup. Aside from that, Stuckey compares equally with Acie Law with both players shooting like the rest of us at the local YMCA. Law and Stuckey’s averages are nearly identical but Law plays behind Anthony Johnson and Speedy Claxton and started briefly before finding himself coming off the bench. Nick Young is getting roughly the same burn but on a team that’s suffered some major injuries to Arenas and to his backup Daniels. So before we give up on the young fella, we should realize that there will be growing pains for any player. 在Darko终於证明某些支持者是错误时(还是他尚未找到适合他的环境？)，我们可以专 心看待我们令人感到安慰的宝贵资产：Rodney Stuckey。这孩子在夏季联盟以风驰电掣的 速度刮起一阵炫风後，左手伤势阻碍了他的成长速度，而且他最近开始面临了严重的新秀 撞墙期。看看联盟中其他其他後卫，Durant在西雅图拿出了符合他榜眼身价的优异表现。 在孟斐斯的Conley已经迫使太空飞鼠Stoudamire让出他先发控卫位置。先撇开他们不谈， 我们拿Acie Law来和Stuckey比较会公平一些，因为他们俩的投篮命中率和我们这些在邻近 YMCA球场打球的家伙不相上下。Law和Stuckey的攻守数据几乎是同一个模子刻出来的，Law 原本担任Anthony Johnson和Speedy Claxton之後的第三後卫，但在还未找回感觉前已经被 安排担任先发控卫的角色。Nick Young在球队主力Arenas及其替补Daniels受伤的球况下拿 出和他们相当的数据。所以在我们放弃这年轻小夥子之前，我们应该要认清一个事实，对 任何球员来说，成长的苦痛都是必经的过程。 MPG PPG RPG APG SPG FG% FT% Rodney Stuckey 15.1 4.3 1.5 2.1 1 0.318 0.885 Acie Law IV 17.5 4.4 1.3 2.4 0.1 0.373 0.792 Nick Young 14.2 6.7 1.4 0.8 0.5 0.406 0.815 Mike Conley 26.8 8.9 2.6 5 0.9 0.444 0.705 -- Now is the Winter of Our Discontent 我们不满意的的冬天 …made glorious summer by this recent playing time for Amir Johnson. It wasn’t a Pistonsforum phenomenon. It was a Pistons Nation one. Dumars said no more DNP-CD’s but a bum ankle allowed a loophole in the youth movement. Fans cried foul. Amir Johnson sat idle or rounded out blowouts. When he did play, he looked every bit the inexperienced, yet talented youngster that he was. He’s been mistake prone and productive at the same time which is, looking across the league, par for the course. Andray Blatche, the Wizards long term project shares a lot of similarities with Johnson. Both have size and great athleticism . Both have multi-positional skills. Both were selected late as preps to pros projects. Compared to Amir, Andray is clocking more than double the minutes and more than double the points. Would AJ average 7 pts and 5 rebounds if he got 18 minutes? Who can say. Would Andray get 18 minutes in Detroit? Only if he’s visiting with the Wizards. ...因为Amir的上场时间使得他夏天的荣光再次成为泡影。这不是一个只在活塞论坛才 有的特异现象，而是在活塞王国中到处都有的现象(意思是说Amir上场时间变多的话让所有 活塞迷都觉得夏天来了)。老乔说他不会再领到DNP-CD's(未上场，教练的决定)，但脚踝伤 势使得球队年轻化的政策出现了漏洞。球迷们对此都很不满。Amir坐在场边发呆或只能在 垃圾时间上场充数。当他真的上场打球时，他的一举一动看起来就是经验不足，虽然他的 确是个有天份的年轻人。他还是有容易犯错的习惯，这是意料中事，不过放眼全联盟，他 的效率还算不差。巫师长期培养的对象Andray Blatche和Johnson有许多相似的特质。他们 两个都有身材及出色的运动能力。两个人都能负责好几个位置的工作。他们两个都在选秀 会後段被所属球队挑走，作为长期培养的对象。和Amir相比，Andray获得的上场时间是 Amir两倍以上，平均得分也是两倍以上。如果Amir获得18分钟的上场时间，他能否拿出平 均7分、5篮板的成绩单？他说得准呢？Andray能否在底特律获得18分钟的上场时间？可以 是可以，不过只有在随巫师造访底特律时才有机会。 MPG PPG RPG APG SPG FG% FT% Amir Johnson 8.4 2.7 2.6 0.6 0.2 0.49 0.72 Andray Blatche 18.5 6.2 4.6 1 0.6 0.45 0.72 While this doesn’t come close to the fine statistical based analysis that dba offers up, one could make the case that, based on the numbers, we’re right where we should be. Sure we’d like to have more success but our starters are playing generally less than other starters and our rookies are performing at about the same level as other rookies. 尽管这篇文章不像dba板友提供的那篇文章，针对数据做了详尽的分析，不过有一点能 够确定的就是，根据数据显示，我们在走在正确的道路上。很肯定的我们希望在先发球员 上场时间比其他球队少以及菜鸟的表现和其他新秀相比不相上下的情况获得更多的胜利。 Hopefully the youth trend will continue and expand as the season wears on. 希望在球季进行的同时，球队年轻化的政策能够持续发展和推动。 --

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