作者lerudit (l'Erudit)
看板PhD
标题Re: 实验室的大学生
时间Mon Mar 6 02:35:46 2006
I think, this is probably 'your' problem.
The reason I thought so is, nobody wants to do uninteresting job. A
laboratory job can be interesting or uninteresting, depending on whether
the researchers understand what they are doing. An interesting job
usually has a very clear point, or objective; it can be totally a
mechanical or repeating work, however, if you do know what you are
doing, what the result can be expected and what you are goint to have (
e.g. payment, a degree, a paper, etc), then you will do it happily.
I believe those undergraduates were really beginners on your topic.
They got order to do some experimental work, however, not fully
understood the objective. Whether they did the work or not, they were
going to get their degree. If, now, you give a really boring work to
them and you yourself do not even stay with them to explain the
knowledge on the going, even me would just reject your order and waste
time on what I think is interesting.
The normal students will say no in that situation. It is also noted that
Taiwanese students usually do not say no, because they were not taught
how to do it, particularly to their teachers... However, you are not
working in Taiwan, are you? Attending a whatever party is really good
reason to leave in a laboratory work, particularly in the evening. No
problem at all. It is you who get payment for your work or are going to
be conferred a research degree, not them. Do not complain this, just do
your work.
※ 引述《SmileFace (@ Ann Arbor)》之铭言:
: 相信很多人都有在实验室带大学生的经验
: 我们实验室有三个under 的学生,没有实验室经验
: 之前他们曾经跟我说
: 「很希望可以多参与一些研究,就算是作最简单跑腿的事情也好」
: 我老板也常常强调要尽量找他们帮忙,但又很强调实验品质一定要好
: 所以我就分出自己project 一个简单的小部分
: 主要就是要那些学生帮我把sample送去一个地方照X 光
: 然後那里的人会帮我们把影像分析,他们拿回来之後
: 把每一笔资料keyin 电脑,再用统计软体去比较各组之间是否有差异
: 这真的非常简单,而且每次只需要两个小时就可以结束
: 在我教完之後,他们都会了
: 然後呢?
: 学生A 跟我说
: 我这天不行、那天不行、这天晚上有party要早点离开
: 还有,我学期结束我要回家.....
: 我看看他还可以的时间
: 发现这样排下去,根本在我10个时间点上他只能做1,2 次
: 基本上,那几乎跟我自己做没什麽差别
: 学生B 呢?
: 帮我送了一次sample 後,打死也不愿意帮我送第二次
: 理由是,外面天气很冷,说我自己想偷懒所以叫他去
: 但,外面天气又不是今天才开始冷的
: (而且本小镇最冷的时候已经过去了,天气已经渐渐逼近摄氏零度了..)
: 而且,我明明就忙着在做其他的实验
: 学生C ?
: 一开始先是时间难瞧
: 他来了之後,我给了他10个samples要他先拿去楼下实验室
: 自己继续在楼上忙,等一个小时後下去
: 发现sample只剩八个!
: 问他另外两个到哪里去了?支支吾吾说不出话来.....
: 最後反而说我当初只给她八个
: 但其实我每一个sample都有编号,都有纪录
: 所以我非常确定是有10个.....
: ..................
: 不知道是我们实验室的大学生特别天?还是大家都是如此?
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