※ 引述《syhsu (as)》之铭言： : ※ 引述《carpfish (学生)》之铭言： : : 国中时...只要是全班第一名就很满足了,根本不会在意全校的名次 : : 高中时...开始会注意原校的名次,还要注意一下其中高中的升学率 : : 到了大学...虽然念了国立大学,可是心中总是有着台大 : : 现在在台大念博士了,但却知道国外还有MIT等等超强名校... : : 有时候作学问做着做着... : : 常常就会觉得,我这样就算真做出一点小小的学问 : : 也只是广大学术翰海之中的微不足道... : : 终究是成不了第一等人 : : 不自觉就泄了气 : : 大家会有这样的想法吗? : 前些日子刚好有听到一位年轻教授的勉励。 : 台湾有些实验室作的研究都是一流的，学 : 生也是一流的，但觉得自己在台湾，就差 : 了点什麽，假如把同样的人事物搬到史丹佛 : MIT，所得的心态就不一样。 Basically, the culture and management. For the management: In Taiwan, there is usually more competition but less team work, particularly between lecturers or professors. There are less well-organised research groups. A well-organised group should at least include: one or two experienced professors, two to four lecturers (or so-called vice-professors or whatever), few post-doctorate researchers, few experienced technicians, students. Usually, in Taiwan, several students work in a lab/room. The lab was supervised by a single professor/lecturer. There might be one or two post-doctors, if luckily. Students (mostly master students) work without any supports from experienced technicians. What worst is, a supervisor takes care of many students... Once one or few scholars come back from some good and/or famous research group, if luckily the government pour adequate funding or supports into some of them, the groups around them suddenly looks like superb groups. However, once one of the below happens the funding ceases the young scholar becomes a professor, a department leader, an industry partner or, even worse, a politician... then, the situation could change quite a lot. Conversely, this hardly occurs in a well-organised research group, as the vertical structure consists of different jobs and different roles. Unfortunately, like a child drives a truck. Taiwan is not really a rich country but almost follows the very rich US system. For the cultural difference: European, American or Japanese scholars do more science but less politcs. The professors appology if one of the students correct their mistakes, and this is quite usual. The scholars can argue in a meeting, and disagree evantually, but they are still colleagues and friends. When they go out to face competition from the other groups, they will cover each other and send one to get the goal; the most appropriate one but not must be the oldest one. In Taiwan, if you, a student, dare to speak against a professor, no matter who is correct, no matter in public or privately, you might get something. If the lecturers or professors are struggling for a target (a position, funding or whatever), some of them might try to block their competitors' ways by something not relevant to scientific factors (e.g. opening somebody's secrets). Although fighting like this might make the department sounds badly to the external... So what? they don't care this (the group) but their own interests. Also, what very frequently heard here, students are not allowed to freely change their supervisors or have to stay longer and longer to work for a, probably, very good group. Do you like this? So, yes, if you don't count these differences in, but just look at the funding, equipments and students, the conclusion is there are good groups in Taiwan. --

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