有没人 可以列一下 在台北念研究所 一个月的开销(住宿费+便当钱+...) 和 从学校拿到的助学金 有个数字 就可以 比得 比较清楚 住宿费:5000-6000 (不包刮 住所的网路费+第四台费用+ 很倒楣的没有抽到宿舍) 吃饭钱:70*3*30=6300 这两笔只是初估 可以刻苦一点 好歹也要个1.1万 以台大为例 学校给的，以台大 可能有人拿到的 5000打6折=3000 实验室 有人 0 有人3000 有人跟的老师比较有钱 6000以上 那大概拿到的钱 6000吧 以上 当然是我就以我目前所看到的大概 有人过的可以比以上好 但我想也有人过的比以上不好 以上支出和收入来比 能有很多人当全职的学生吗? 当研究生的人没当过家教的人有多少， 没打过工的人有多少 对一学生开源的方式 兼家教是很普遍的 当然花在研究的时间和心思也少了 我不介意学校究竟给学生多少 但是 学生逐年多收 学校给的学生的钱竟然还要打折 ><" ※ 引述《lerudit (l'Erudit)》之铭言： : ※ 引述《gashchou (头在晕)》之铭言： : : 政府的教育经费年年是在往下删减，虽然有弄一些啥子五年五百亿的经费，想要让一 : : 些大学能挤入世界百大，但是整体而言，研究经费并未能增加许多。许多老师们的研 : : 究经费也都往下缩减，研究生人数往上增加，如此的经费要如何去帮助研究生能有基 : : 本的生活开销。 : Basically, the living cost is actually a personal problem rather than a public : issue. There is no relationship between the living cost (whether the government : supports or not) and the research quality. : Everybody, except babies, got to pay their living cost by themselves. : If you go to look at the history, : you probably would be surprised that how many great scientists actually : struggled in poverty. Of course some of them are rich. : Anyway, they all changed this world by their great contributions. : What about you? Postgraduates! What are you going to do after getting supports? : Also, from the name of the money; that is a sort of charity! : Is anyone going to protest for getting more charity money?! : Com'on, Postgraduates! What are you doing? : == : For the university management and funding sources, : I don't think the current government has so much money can do this. : The only way to gather the money is basically to reform the tax rates. : This issue has already been discussed in the last few years. : The current government also promised to do this as well. : However, as all the other non-delivered promises, : I cannot expect they will do this by 2008. : (We got so many great election runners, rather than great government runners : or good managers.) : From the other view, the high educational system now has already been twisted : to an American style. The universities are now almost independent from the : government's control, and, therefore, should not ask more money from the : government. Conversely, in the past, like EU, the government ran the : universities and, therefore, supported them and controlled them. : This is a sort of interest-duty balance. You cannot ask something from nothing. : If the universities wants to get supports from the taxpayers, they should : be under control of the taxpayers (the government) as well. : Else, they should go away, get their own money and manage themselves. : The other problem, as I have already stated many times, the national : universities have never done good management on their funding. : Look at your universities, : Do they charge their students for printing? or set a quota for the students? : Do they monitor the uses of the Internet? If the answer is yes, has anyone : downloading mp3 or whatever got punishment from the university? : Have your universities installed auto-controlled switches for saving the power? : Have your universities control the uses of telephones for just study purposes? : How about the wonderful (and expensive) flat monitors in the central offices? : Are they required or more important than your research equipment? : Do the lecturers need to pay for their car parking in the campus? : ..... : Gentlemen, have you noticed we are talking about several billion dollars? : Those techniques have already existed in the markets and no longer expensive. : Most of the top universities in the world have already done this for ages. : Oh, excuse me, gentlemen. I just noticed one they have done: : Some of them must have saved a lot of money from the human labour cost by : asking their undergraduate students to clean their campus (I should say 'force', : because if the students refuse to do this, they cannot get their degrees!) : I personally have not yet seen this been done anywhere else in the world. : Is that a smart action? Gentlemen. --

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