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标 题Re: 请问有关直升博士班的问题
发信站批踢踢参 (Tue Dec 6 12:14:17 2005)
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※ 引述《[email protected] (除了当老师,我还能干麻?)》之铭言:
: 我现在是硕三
: 几个月前跟老师谈判的结果是 只要系统有讯号就让我走人
: 最近系统总算量到讯号了
: 跟老师谈
: 老师居然说:你工作找好了吗? 你是女生,为什麽不在留下来把研究做好一点?
: 不想发paper吗? 这样以後想念博班也比较有漂亮的paper申请
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Is there any rule saying if you are not a MSc student, you cannot publish?
From this, you can see the advisor's point...
I won't suggest you to agree his point, but suggest him to get better excuse
next time.
Degree is degree, paper is paper.
Let's worry of the degree first, then the paper comes later.
This is what you should say.
: 老师的建议是中肯的,但是 我实在看不出来,是因为欣赏我的能力所以给予建议
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The only point I agree is, publishing really helps application.
However, not quite a lot of PhD student has a paper published
before their PhD course.
And this is why you want to be a PhD student, to learn how to do it.
Even for a PhD student, publish can only be seen as a bonus.
Degree is degree, paper is paper.
Most of the works for a PhD degree is worthy to publish,
however, in most of the world, a PhD degree only means a completed thesis.
That's all.
: 还是纯粹只想多一个免费劳工,多得几篇论文的自私心态
: 现在已经12月了,我的後面已经排了各学弟要接我的系统
: 现在又不让我走,是怎样?
: 别人的青春岁月没有价值吗?女生就不是人吗?女生的时间就不值钱吗?
: 那也请给我一个月7万块的薪水,我可以考虑跟你慢慢耗
: 念了两年半
: 自己的心得是
: 在学术界里面 跟外面的世界是一样的复杂的
: 讨厌的是有一堆老鼠坏了这锅粥(其实不应该对教育冠以高道德标准,太多假象了)
: 遇到好老板 自己会心甘情愿自动自发的作所谓的研究 做到死也没有怨言
: 遇到滥老板 真的只能摸摸鼻子 看自己最低的底限是什麽 到手就走人了
: 世界上有好人,不过不多...
: 依社会现况来看,硕士文凭还是有其重要性,说不要我想都只是一时的气话
: 只是找老师的时候真的要睁大眼用心看,多多打听老师的风评
: 看着实验室的成员玩着自相残杀的把戏,实在蛮好笑的,小世界里面的厮杀
I would suggest you not to stay there if you want a PhD degree.
: 如果只是想找份工作,其实不用念研究所,用心认真工作,我想日子还是可以过的很好
: 想要比别人过的好,赚大钱,念完研究所还是得从基层做起,
: 没有实力多那张纸也是没什麽用的,只是进入门槛比较有优势
: 学历跟文凭只有在从事特定工作的时候才会秃显出他的重要性
: 如果只是想混饭吃,真的不用这麽辛苦....
: 好好赚钱跟妥善理财,日子就可以过的不错了
: 念书,感觉好像只是为了争一口气,不想在某些时候被一些空有文凭没有实力的人看扁了
: 大家一起加油吧~~
I think you just need to find a good place and a good supervisor.
(I am not talking about PhD in Taiwan now, as the rules of PhD degree is
twisted quite a lot there....)
Most of the PhD means a specific story and an expert on a specific area.
You might be able to learn all the experience from career, however, not
100% of experienced worker will be recognised a PhD-equivalent degree.
Most of the PhD's story is a hardship, which is unforgettable in their
rest of lives. In the occasions with a good supervisor and good colleagues,
a good university and a fair system, that can be nice days in your life.
This is why when doctors talking about when they were a mister or a mistress,
they usually suddently become excited and remember everything in a minute.
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