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标 题Re: [心得] 博班学长与硕班学弟之间
发信站批踢踢参 (Sat Sep 24 05:42:50 2005)
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※ 引述《[email protected] (Love Actually)》之铭言:
: 我在老师门下的绰号是魔鬼军曹,去年的我的确也是如此。
: 老师对於硕班有进度的规划,但是又希望他们能够「快乐地
: 」写论文。可惜我还是坚持做魔鬼,所以我去年不断地盯进
: 度,但是我也同时不断地给他们必要的支援,paper、 格式
: 、软体操作、甚至帮忙处理一些硕士班做不太出来的分析方
: 法。可惜的是去年的硕士班让我寒心。某个硕士生在我熬夜
: 两天帮他处理一大块资料的分析方式,最後拿到他要的数据
: 的隔天,打了通电话给我,说了大意是「你不要以为你会做
: 就了不起!我就是看不起你这种高高在上,只会要求的人」
: 後来回宿舍的路上我就一路掉眼泪,一个28岁的男生在路上
: 哭是很难看的,但是我实在忍不住,觉得自己之前给他们那
: 麽多资料,花时间跟他们讨论,又教软体,帮忙跑程式,最
: 後换来的是这样。後来我也才知道我之所以有一段时间很被
: 老师讨厌,是因为那个硕士班去老师那边不断地说我压榨他
: ,对他们极尽苛刻之能事,却完全不提我给他哪些帮助....
: 今年我决定改变风格,硕士班不来找我我也不去找他。反正
: 老师会当最後的仲裁者,虽然铁鎚还是会钉钉子,但是我这
: 个钉子今年不想管木板。如果他们不能毕业,那也是他们的
: 造化使然。对於积极的学弟妹要抱持积极的态度,尽量给他
: 们协助。对於摆烂的,那就请自便吧。老子也是很忙的。
To be honest, I don't know why you haven't done this in the very beginning.
In fact, this is not a job of PhD student, but rather of a supervisor or
a fellow.
Moreover, postgraduates in Taiwan are usually quite confused about the
relationship between PhD students and master students, or same degree but
at different levels. Really, in a group, they should be at a fair level;
no student should be supervised by the other one. When a student seeks help
from the other one, she or he should say 'please..'. Even all the members
should work in a team; however, one only does one's work essentially.
Co-work is possible, but only both benefit from each other's work.
In your case, you, a student, actually supervise another student. However,
you may also make some mistakes in this; e.g. estimate too many for a master
student. If this was the real situation, you could get that feedback, which is
not surprising. A master student's work is to do a master degree --- there is
no point to do too much over the criteria of the degree but still get a master
degree only. Similarly, you don't really like your supervisor asking you to do
too much over the criteria of a PhD degree (and takes you more time), do you?
I would suggest, from now on, treat your master degree co-workers as colleagues,
instead of whatever in a lower rank than you. Leave your boss's job to himself.
You are not paid to do this. Really, you should bear in mind,
those people might, some day, decide to take a PhD course and finally become
a PhD, and might will be even stronger than you.... Think about this...
Hopefully helps.
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