作者eliczone (C'est la vie)
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标题Fw: [外电] Tyreke Evans Needs Shooters
时间Mon Feb 24 22:59:59 2014
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作者: eliczone (C'est la vie) 看板: TyrekeEvans
标题: [外电] Tyreke Evans Needs Shooters
时间: Mon Feb 24 22:59:49 2014
http://www.thebirdwrites.com/2014/2/23/5439320/tyreke-evans-needs-shooters
Puzzle does not fit together without the right pieces. Some basketball players
thrive with the ball in their hands attacking the basket, others excel at
floating on the perimeter creating space for teammates to operate. Anthony
Davis is excellent at just about everything that involves a basketball. But
you already knew that. Tyreke Evans thrives when given the ability to handle
the ball and drive the lane.
拼图不能乱拼,有些人就是需要球在他们手上,有些就是擅长在外面投射。reke就是在
有球在手上以及切入时最猛。
Evans has logged 1160 minutes so far this season. During that time, he is
converting 40.2% of his field goal attempts. While his Per 36 minute
statistics show career highs in rebounds, assists, and steals, the woeful
shooting sticks out like a sore thumb. Missing Ryan Anderson has not helped,
but certain lineup decisions by Monty Williams have been nearly as
detrimental. Let's dive into the numbers.
到目前为止上了1160分钟,命中率40.2%。PER36在篮板、助攻以及抄截都是生涯新高,因
此很烂的投射就很引人注目。Ryno缺席对此没有帮助,而Monty对阵容的决定更是主因。
Tyreke With Greg Stiemsma
According to NBAwowy, Tyreke has logged 294 of his 1160 minutes beside the
Steamer. The results have been predictably horrible for Mr. Evans. His
shooting drops below his season numbers to 39.6% from the field. Not only
that, but only 23.8% of Tyreke's misses are rebounded by the Pelicans. (As
you will see further along, this is a depressingly low number.) Paired with
Stiemsma, the Pelicans are outscored by 15.8 points per 100 possessions ,
posting a horrendous .939 points per possession (PPP). (For a good frame of
reference, here is a list of all the NBA teams and their current PPP. And for
defensive efficiency here.) Thus, it would seem obvious putting these two
players on the court together should be avoided at all costs.
reke有294分钟是和Stiemsma同时在场上,结果糟透了。命中率只有39.6%,而且更惨的是
在那些不进的球当中只有23.8%是由自己球队抢下的。和Stiemsma搭挡,每100回合鹈鹕得
分输对手15.8分,PPP为.939。因此不管怎样都应该要避免让这两个人同时在场上。
Tyreke With Al-Farouq Aminu
Pairing a player dependent on driving to the basket with a player who cannot
shoot and is rarely involved in the pick and roll is not a formula for
success. But for Tyreke, there is no worse option than putting him on the
floor with Aminu. Despite these easy observations, Monty Williams (there will
be much more on him in the future) has paired Tyreke with Aminu for 270
minutes. Are you sitting down? If not, you should be.
将一个大量依赖切入的和一个不会投篮的摆在一起就是找死。对reke来说,人生最惨的事
就是和Aminu同时在场上。但就算事实已经摆在眼前,聪明的Monty还是让reke和Aminu搭
挡了270分钟。
Tyreke shoots 34.9% from the field when paired with Aminu. 26.2% of those
many misses are rebounded by the Pelicans, still below average for New
Orleans as a whole, who pull down 27.7% of all misses on the offensive glass.
While this pairing somehow puts up 1.038 PPP, it gives up an atrocious 1.165
PPP on the other end for a Net rating of minus .127 (outscored by 12.7 points
per 100 possessions).
和Aminu搭挡时reke命中率只有34.9%,而其中没进当中的26.2%是被球队抢下,仍然是低於
平均,鹈鹕抢下进攻篮板占27.7%,当这两位的PPP为1.038,但失分却是吓人的1.165,也
就是每100回合低於对手12.7分。
The Unholy Trio
Please, don't make me do this.
Please.
Please.
...
All three of these players have thankfully logged only 47 minutes together.
During that time, Tyreke Evans is shooting 29.2% from the field. This unit
only scores 74.4 points per 100 possessions while allowing 113.8 - a negative
39.4 Net rating! This kind of discrpeancy should not even be possible.
Honestly, grouping these three players together, in any circumstance, should
be considered a fireable offense.
感谢主,这三个人同时在场上只有47分钟,在这当中reke的命中率是29.2%。这个组合每
100回合只得74.4分,失分为113.8。
Tyreke With Shooters
This may surprise you (no, it really shouldn't since we've been doing our job
here and you've been reading), but putting Tyreke on the floor with shooters
results in excellent offense. For instance, paired with Luke Babbitt, for 69
minutes in just seven games, Evans is shooting 46.9% from the field. A
dramatic increase from his 40.2% overall and well within the realm of
acceptable. The team scores 125.4 points per 100 possessions while only
allowing 103.5, good for a positive net rating of 21.9.
但当将reke和射手搭挡时,进攻是很杰出的。举例来说,和Babbitt一起时,虽然只有7
场比赛总计69分钟,reke的命中率是46.9%。球队每100回合能得125.4分,而且只会失
103.5分。
Tyreke has a significantly larger sample size playing beside Ryan Anderson,
putting in 409 minutes together. While his 41.7% field goal is far from world
beating material the Pelicans retrieve an astounding 40% of Tyreke's misses.
This grouping also puts up points in bunches; posting a 119.2 points per 100
possessions while allowing 114.8. The defensive number is admittedly high,
but a positive 4.4 net rating is nothing to sneeze at. Such a differential is
equivalent to the Rockets (+4.5) or Trailblazers (+4.2).
reke和Ryno搭挡的时间多了很多,总计409分钟。在reke没投进时鹈鹕能够抢下40%的篮板
。这个组合每100回合能得119.2分,只失114.8分,防守数字的确高了点,但合算起来正
4.4和火箭(+4.5)以及阿拓(+4.2)是一样高的。
Putting it All Together
Combining these two data sets (Tyreke with Anderson or Babbitt) creates a
sample size of 478 minutes. During this time, Evans has shot 93/219 (42.4%).
Without either of those shooters Tyreke's FG% plunges to 119/309 (38.5%).
Specifically, Evans goes from shooting 52.2% (80/153) within three feet of
the basket to 47% (80/170). In addition, Tyreke gets to the basket more
frequently with shooters where 153/219 or 69.8% of his shot attempts are
within three feet. Without Babbitt or Anderson on the floor, that percentage
of attempts within three feet drops to 170/309 - 55%.
整体来说,reke和这两个人搭的时间总计为478分钟。reke投219中93(42.4%),没有这些
射手reke的命中率只有38.5%。三尺内的投篮从52.2%到47%。此外,和射手搭挡时reke更
常切入,总计有69.8%的投篮是在三尺内。没有这两个人在场上,三尺内的投篮比例降低
为只有55%
This gets worse for the team, as seen here. Lacking the spacing required for
him to operate the offense stagnates to a pathetic .995 PPP, while giving up
1.133; that's an average of being outscored 13.8 points per 100 possessions.
Even Philadelphia's league worst negative 10.4 net rating is hopeless to
compete with such ineptitude. With shooters, the defense is more or less
unchanged, allowing 1.132 PPP. However, the offense explodes to 1.199 PPP. A
positive 6.7 points per 100 possessions sits smack dab in between Oklahoma
City's ridiculous +7.2 and San Antonio's +6.1.
对球队来说更伤,少了他所需要的空间使得进攻停滞,PPP只有.995,防守PPP却是1.133
每100回合平均少对手13.8分。就算是最烂的七六人也只有-10.4。和射手在一起,防守
是没什麽提升,但进攻爆冲为1.199。每100回合正6.7分在雷霆的+7.2和马刺的+6.1之间
The key ingredient to allowing Tyreke Evans to maximize his strengths is
clear. He needs to be on the floor with a stretch four who opens the lane for
his various forays into the paint. Unfortunately that was the plan all along
but a series of injuries to Ryan Anderson temporarily derailed that concept.
With the late season (and nearly free) acquisition of Luke Babbitt, the
Pelicans seem to have a "poor-man's Ryan Anderson" available to pair with
Tyreke. Sadly, Monty Williams felt the best plan of attack last night was to
glue Mr. Babbitt to the bench, playing him only seven minutes and twenty-one
seconds.
让reke能有最佳发挥的关键因素很明显,就是他需要能投外线的PF。不幸的是Ryno受伤
使得计划失败。但最近引进了穷人版Ryno-Babbitt,哀伤的是,Monty觉得最好的计划就
是让Babbitt坐板凳,只上了7分21秒。
If the Pelicans have hopes of continuing to develop a winning culture beyond
banking on the exceptional talents of Anthony Davis, it is critical to put
their best players in the position to succeed. Tyreke needs shooters on the
floor to do the work he is paid to do. It is Monty's job to recognize both
his players' strengths and weaknesses and find methods to capitalize on the
talent available on the roster.
如果鹈鹕希望能够在AD的带领下培养赢家文化,将好球员放在对的地方就很关键。reke
需要射手,发挥球员的长处,掩藏短处是Monty的工作。
So far on that front, returns have not been promising.
到目前为止,看不到光明。
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※ 转录者: eliczone (27.105.21.207), 时间: 02/24/2014 22:59:59
1F:推 choroq3:推翻译 真希望Monty能看这篇.. 02/25 00:05
2F:→ piercepaul:这篇意思是在说reke命中率低是因为这几个球员的关系吗? 02/25 00:41
3F:→ piercepaul:汽船离开C's後我不是很清楚,但当他还在时,他的中距离 02/25 00:42
5F:→ piercepaul:当然这跟空档的品质也有关系 02/25 00:43
6F:→ eliczone:这篇是说 Monty一直将reke和不对的人搭在一起 然後搞的他 02/25 10:00
7F:→ eliczone:无所适从 有一阵子对了 但後来又错了 这对球员来说是很伤 02/25 10:00
8F:→ eliczone:的一件事 好不容易以为从死马之手逃脱 结果却来个更烂的 02/25 10:00
9F:→ eliczone:因为当这两个人在场上的时候 基本上就是4打5 甚至是3打5 02/25 10:01
10F:→ eliczone:对手可以很轻松的站在里面等你冲进来 02/25 10:02
11F:→ piercepaul:原来如此,那大概要看现阶段教练(or高层)是否要以reke 02/25 10:24
12F:→ piercepaul:为主轴吧?很可惜Ryan跟J.Smith受伤无法维持完整阵容 02/25 10:26
13F:→ piercepaul:这对教练也很头痛,实验很难做XD 02/25 10:27
14F:→ piercepaul:不过这两年当作是两津的养成期也不错啦~ 02/25 10:27
15F:→ eliczone:在自由市场开放的第一天就愿意用大约签下他 这就代表了高 02/25 11:09
16F:→ eliczone:层是想要以他为主轴(其实那时候Monty也是) 但到目前为止 02/25 11:09
17F:→ eliczone:不知道Monty是中了什麽邪 完全不是这麽一回事 纵使有许多 02/25 11:10
18F:→ eliczone:伤兵 但他对於阵容的安排简直是乱七八糟 完全是用球员的 02/25 11:10
19F:→ eliczone:劣势去应战 那当然会觉得这个球员非常烂 前面其实有讲了 02/25 11:11
20F:→ eliczone:很多为什麽Monty该被fire的文章 他完全没有改进 02/25 11:12
21F:→ eliczone:简单用Ariza的例子来说好了 他在巫师的3分表现远远超过在 02/25 11:13
22F:→ eliczone:那时候黄蜂 投的量和命中率都好上许多 更不用说球队的三 02/25 11:16
23F:→ eliczone:分尝试倒数第二 但是球队是有一堆很不错的射手 EG Jrue 02/25 11:17
24F:→ eliczone:Ryno Morrow Babbitt D. Miller Roberts 照球队的阵容来 02/25 11:18
25F:→ eliczone:说教练应该要设计一堆三分战术才对 这样子能够帮reke和AD 02/25 11:19
26F:→ eliczone:甚至是Jrue打开空间 结果呢 却是一堆long 2s 效益最低的 02/25 11:19
27F:→ eliczone:所以Dell其实干的不错 但教练完全不会用这个阵容.... 02/25 11:20
28F:→ eliczone:要是今年他不将Monty火掉 这把火就会烧到他身上 02/25 11:20
29F:→ eliczone:然後他老是喜欢在守挡拆的时候用hedge 不是说不行这样 而 02/25 11:22
30F:→ eliczone:是要依照对方的属性以及本身球员的特性来决定要怎麽守吧 02/25 11:23
31F:→ eliczone:以对灰狼为例 Rubio的外围投射和reke可以比烂的 但还是一 02/25 11:23
32F:→ eliczone:样hedge 别人都知道要内缩 他老兄偏要这样守.... 02/25 11:24
33F:→ eliczone:一直说他是defense mind的教练 但球队的防守却是倒数的 02/25 11:25
34F:→ eliczone:不管别人怎麽夸奖他 但球队成绩呈现出来的就是这麽烂 02/25 11:25
36F:→ eliczone:合不合理一目了然 让各位参考 02/25 11:31
37F:推 justlovekiss:真的是很赌烂MONTY 难怪在当球员也打不好 掯 02/25 12:41
38F:推 piercepaul:推~e大根本可以打一篇文XD 02/25 14:15
39F:推 oceion1108:TE和AD搭呢? 02/25 19:07
40F:推 oceion1108:都打三分,让AD和阿米奴捡子弹? 02/25 19:09
41F:推 oceion1108:其实我们的得分点满多的,找个传球为主的控卫好吗? 02/25 19:11
42F:→ oceion1108:我们的防守到底差在哪个环节? 02/25 19:12
43F:→ eliczone:reke和AD的搭配非常好啊 其实Jrue已经算是非常以传球为主 02/25 23:23
44F:→ eliczone:的控卫了 这倒是没什麽问题 球队的问题不在控卫身上 02/25 23:23
45F:→ eliczone:防守之前有篇数据文有讲到 第一个教练的防守体系不适合目 02/25 23:24
46F:→ eliczone:前这个阵容 一开始还有AD站在篮下当门神 现在大家学聪明 02/25 23:24
47F:→ eliczone:了 知道你守挡拆一定会Hedge 那就由AD守的人来挡 这样子 02/25 23:25
48F:→ eliczone:AD就会被拉到外面 剩下的人没有篮下吓阻力 就科科了 02/25 23:25
49F:→ eliczone:再加上球员太会犯规 从一开始的L. Thomas到後来的阿盲到 02/25 23:26
50F:→ eliczone:最後的Ajinca Roberts等等 导致对方怎麽打怎麽有 当然这 02/25 23:26
51F:→ eliczone:跟Jrue的受伤有些关系 但球队的犯规次数实在过多 导致对 02/25 23:27
52F:→ eliczone:手多拿分的机会就提高许多 02/25 23:27
53F:推 choroq3:阿金是最近唯一的亮点.. 02/28 01:14
54F:→ eliczone:AD肩膀扭伤 每日观察 02/28 19:46
55F:→ eliczone:Monty还要坚持放reke在替补吗 我没看过这麽弱的先发 02/28 19:48
56F:推 oceion1108:假日报销了! 03/01 08:36
57F:→ oceion1108:AD今天会上吗? 03/01 08:37
58F:→ choroq3:AD上了 看来Roberts接下来要先发到季末 03/01 12:06