Monty Williams Week: Monty's Mistake by Caleb462 on May 3, 2011 7:43 AM CDT in Analysis 原文：http://www.atthehive.com/2011/5/3/2150950/montys-mistake This post might rub some people the wrong way. I can understand why. Here we are, finally at the end of a long and emotionally draining season. The Hornets fought hard in the first round of the playoffs despite being severely outmatched and without David West, and gave us two of the more memorable performances in Hornets history. What am I doing talking about Marcus Thornton at a time like this? 这个位置上常会让人有错误的判断。我可以理解为什麽。我们终究渡过了一个漫长的球季。 黄蜂在第一轮的季後赛中在没有DX的情况下打得很艰辛，不过也带给我们两场足以写进队 史的好表现。这个时间点我还要谈谈MT吗？ Sorry, I’ve got to speak my peace. If you are tired of the Thornton discussion, feel free to skip this article and the discussion that may very well ensue. With that out of the way, let’s get started. Back in December, in one of my earliest articles for At the Hive, I wrote this: In an interview with SLAM a few weeks back Monty Williams said that he believes most players will improve when they are given consistent minutes. For whatever reason, he isn't applying this philosophy to Marcus. It's going to really suck when Marcus drops 35 on the Hornets in a few years wearing a Nets uniform or something. 抱歉，我还是要谈谈我的想法。假如你厌倦了谈论MT，那你可以按←跳过这篇文章的讨论。 要继续的话，那我们开始吧。早在去年12月，我就在atthehive.com上写了下面这段话： 『在接受SLAM采访前的几个星期Monty说：他相信大部分的球员都能有所进步并且可以得到 一些上场时间。不管是出於何种原因，很明显他并没有这样对待MT。It's going to really suck when Marcus drops 35 on the Hornets in a few years wearing a Nets uniform or something.』（这句看不懂XD，drops 35？） I was frustrated, obviously, but at the time I was still fairly optimistic that Monty would change his tactics with Marcus and let the kid play. Of course, that didn’t happen, and Marcus is now sporting a Kings jersey., As it turns out, Marcus dropping points on the Hornets wasn’t as painful as I thought it would be. Marcus played well, but the Hornets won that March 12th meeting, and it was an exciting and entertaining game. Chris Paul looked like the Chris Paul we’ve all come to know and love. New arrival Carl Landry had his first 20 point game as a Hornet. It was the kind of win that made me feel good to be a Hornets fan and a Marcus Thornton fan at the same time. At least for that night I found it easy to forget Monty’s mishandling of Marcus Thornton. However, I couldn’t forget it for too long, and its that mishandling that I want to talk about. 很显然的，我觉得很失望，但是当时我还是很乐观的认为Monty会因为MT改变他的策略让他 上场。当然，这并没有发生，而MT现在穿着国王的球衣，而最後事实证明，MT的不振，对 黄蜂的伤害也没这麽大。之後今年3/12黄蜂赢了国王，MT打的不错，而CP3更是打的跟我们 认识的那个CP3一样，然後交易来的Landry则是拿到他在黄蜂第一次的20分。这算是双赢的 局面，对黄蜂球迷和MT都是。至少在那天晚上我发现这很容易让人忘记Monty对MT的处理不 当。但是，我并没有忘记太久，对於Monty处理MT的方式我要来谈谈。 Monty Williams had, on the whole, a successful and impressive season as a rookie head coach. He instilled a commitment to defense in the team, and as a result the Hornets challenged for the title of the Western Conference’s best defense all season long, only losing that spot after a series of injuries to Emeka Okafor, Trevor Ariza and David West. Despite up and down play from Chris Paul, and despite the injuries to important players, Monty Williams kept the team well above .500 and guided the team to the playoffs. It should also be noted that he did this despite having stepped into a rather turbulent situation. By that I mean the rash of Chris Paul trade speculation over the summer and the ongoing search for an owner. That’s all commendable, and Monty Williams (and his staff) deserve a great deal of credit for those accomplishments. 整体而言，Monty在他第一年的教练生涯是很成功的。他灌输球员团队防守的概念，让黄蜂 整个球季都保持在西区防守最好的球队当中，直到Okafor、阿里莎、DX受伤的那段时间。 尽管球队的好与坏都维系着CP3的状况，尽管是失去重要的球员，球队还是一直保持着五成 胜率而挺进季後赛。特别要说的是，他还面临一个非常动荡的时刻，我的意思是CP3在去年 暑假上演的保罗人生。这些都值得让人赞扬，Monty（和他的团队）取得了很高的成就。 That being said, I firmly believe Monty Williams made a serious misjudgment in regards to Marcus Thornton. As a Sacramento King, our boy Buckets averaged 20.1 points, 4.4 rebounds, 3.2 assists, 1.6 steals and just 2.0 turnovers per 36 minutes. Per game he averaged just a hair over 21 points. He did this on solid percentages of 45.0% from the field, 36.1% from three and 80.5% from the line. His ratio of points to field goal attempts stands at a solid 1.21. According to Dean Oliver’s Offensive Rating, Thornton generated approximately 112 points per 100 possessions for the Kings, which is more than anyone not named Chris Paul or (coincidentally) Carl Landry generated for the Hornets. His PER shot from 14.0 as a Hornet up to 18.2 as a King, and he was one of only two Kings with a PER higher than the league average of 15.0. As a King, Marcus Thornton was generally the best 话虽如此，我还是认为Monty对於MT的处理上犯了严重的错误判断。在国王队里，MT平均 每36分钟场可以拿到20.1分、4.4篮板、3.2助攻、1.6抄截和只有2次失误。实际上他平均 每场得分为21.3分。他的投篮命中率为45.0%、三分球命中率36.1%、罚球命中率80.5%。他 平均每一次进攻投篮可以拿到1.21分。然後根据Dean Oliver的进攻评等，以国王队的整体 水准为100的话，MT的Off.Rtg是112。这是黄蜂除了那个叫CP3的家伙之外，Landry也达不 到的境界。他的PER从在黄蜂的14.0到国王之後成长为18.2，这是国王全队唯二高於联盟平 均15.0的球员。在国王队里面，MT通常都是场上最好的球员。 Is any of that surprising? No, not in the least. Over the course of 73 games last season, Marcus Thornton averaged over 20 points per 36 minutes, posted a PER of 17.4 and an Offensive Rating of 111. Those of us who watched him play every game saw what kind of scorer and shooter he was as well as the kind of player he might one day be. The fact that Thornton not only returned to form as a King but also showed improvement is not an unexpected outcome. Given the playing time, we all knew he could do just that. 很吃惊吗？不，一点也没有。去年他在黄蜂的73场比赛中，平均上场36分钟就可以拿到超过 20分，他的PER为17.4而Off.Rat为111。我们这些看过他比赛的都知道他的得分能力很优异 ，他可能有一天会成为一个优秀的射手之类的球员。事实上，MT不仅仅只是加入国王，让人 意外的是他的能力也越来越好了。由於上场时间的关系，我们都知道他是有这种本事的。 "So what?" you might say. You might think that the trade for Carl Landry was a good one, that Landry played well and acted as an efficient and reliable scorer, and that his production was vitally important due to David West’s absence. I wouldn’t disagree with any of that. In fact, those are my exact thoughts. However, does any of this change the fact that Monty Williams made a mistake with Marcus? I certainly don’t think so. No one could have predicted whether or not David West would suffer a season-ending injury, so the fact that Carl Landry ended up filling a vital role has no bearing on whether or not Marcus Thornton should have been a played a larger and more consistent role for the Hornets. Besides, it’s conceivable that had Thornton succeeded in New Orleans this season, the Hornets might have gotten more than Carl Landry back in a trade for him. 你可能会说：那又怎样？你可能会认为交易Landry过来是个好得决定，Landry也打的很好， 尤其是他在DX受伤之後也补上了这个洞。我不会不认同这些，事实上，我也是这样认为。 但是，这些变化是否就是Monty对MT的处理错误？我可没这麽认为。没有人能够预测到DX会 在球季末受伤，Landry在最後关头填补了这个大洞，可是这跟MT应该在黄蜂有更大的发展空 间并没有任何关系。此外，可以想像一下，如果MT今年球季可以可以在黄蜂大放异彩，是否 黄蜂交易MT时还可以拿到除了只有Landry外更多的东西。 Of course, you might very well have other objections. For instance, perhaps Thornton simply excelled because he played on a bad team, which you might think is in line with what he did last season. Or perhaps Thornton excelled because he was playing in a system where he could excel. I don’t think the first objection holds any weight. There’s simply not much evidence that playing on a bad team can pump up a player’s most important statistics. For certain, the most capable offensive player on a bad team may very well get more minutes, more shot attempts and more time with the ball than he might on a more talented team. As a result, the player might see an increase in statistics like points per game or assists per game. By the same token, however, the player may very well turn the ball over more and score less efficiently. If this happened with Marcus, one might have a case with that first objection. But this is not what we saw from Marcus. Marcus’ stats increased in both volume and efficiency. 当然，你可能有其他的异议。譬如说，MT只是在一个糟糕的团队里打球才有这种表现，你可 能认为就跟上季他在黄蜂时的状况一样。MT或许是处於在他擅长的打法中所以才有这种表现 。我不认为第一个反对有任何意义可言。有证据显示，更本没有太多的糟糕的团队可以提昇 球员的重要统计数据。有些时候，最有能力的进攻球员，在糟糕的球队里可能会有更多的上 场时间、更多的出手次数和更多的持球。因此，我们可以看到一些统计数据像是平均得分、 平均助攻的增加。但是球员可能因为一球在手使的自身的进攻效率下降。如果这现象发生在 MT身上，那第一个反对意见就可以成立。但是这并不是我们所看见的MT。MT的数据和效率都 是上扬的。 The second objection, on the other hand, deserves some consideration. At 95.1 possessions per game, Paul Westphal’s Kings were one of the fastest playing teams in the league this season. I think most will agree that Marcus’ playing style suits a fast-paced offense well, and New Orleans under Monty Williams has been anything but fast. That being said, the 2009-2010 Hornets, though they played faster than the Hornets under either Byron Scott or Monty Williams, were simply average in terms of pace at 92.6 possessions per game. Of course, if you want to make the case that league average is practically Nellieball compared to the Monty Williams-led Hornets, I’d probably agree. 至於第二个反对的理由，这方面这就值得思考，At 95.1 possessions per game（这数据是 什麽意思？）在Paul Westphal主掌的国王队在本季是球风快速的球队。我相信大部分人都 同意，MT的打球风格很适合这种球风快速的进攻节奏，而Monty带领的黄蜂队什麽都不错， 除了速度。话虽如此，09-10年的黄蜂，虽然他们打球节奏比在Byron Scott或Monty时较快 ，但是简单算一下possessions per game是92.6。Of course, if you want to make the case that league average is practically Nellieball compared to the Monty Williams-led Hornets, I’d probably agree.（我又完全看不懂了XDDDD） Yet I have a hard time believing that a player as skilled and as talented as Marcus can only excel under certain conditions. It’s not as if Marcus only scores in transition. I wish I had the situational statistics to back this up, but to my eyes Marcus has always been excellent off of cuts and screens, and he ’s one of those (seemingly rare) players who displays excellent off the ball movement and constant activity. These facets of his game can work well no matter the speed of play. Besides, I believe it’s a coach’s responsibility to utilize a player’s strengths as best as he or she can. That, ultimately, is my complaint against Monty Williams. Rather than find a way to use Marcus effectively, Williams instead chose to restrict Marcus’ involvement. Williams used Marcus erratically and inconsistently. One day it was garbage minutes, the next day it was a DNP-CD, and the next day Marcus was being relied upon for crucial minutes down the stretch in a tight game. Then it was another DNP-CD. I think it’s unrealistic, and perhaps foolish, to expect a player to perform consistently when he’s being given minutes in such an inconsistent manner. Monty Williams could have instructed the second unit to push the ball more, and used Marcus as the featured scorer of this unit. Or he could have attempted to design creative plays that utilized Marcus’ long-range shooting abilities and Chris Paul’s deft ability to find open three-point shooters. Perhaps he did. There’s a lot we can’t know about the relationship between player and coach and Monty’s coaching of Marcus. However, anything Monty did or did not try would have had to be supported by consistent playing time, and this was never the case. 然而，我很难相信像MT这种技术的球员只能在一定条件下才能发挥。我希望我有统计数据 可以支持我的想法，但我只看到MT越来越不振和上不了场，而他是那些很罕见的属於优秀 球员却得不到上场时间的人其中之一。除了速度的发挥他在场还还可以作些别的事情。此 外，我觉得这是教练的问题，在场上运用一个球员的强项或是他可以做到的部份都是教练 的责任。说到底，这是我投诉Monty的地方。应该去找一个有效的使用MT的方式，而Monty 却只是选择限制MT。Monty让MT上场时间根本就不稳定也不一致，有一天，垃圾时间让他上 场，第二天不给上场，下一场在关键时刻让MT上场，然後下一场又不给上场。我认为这调度 很差，期望球员在这少少又不稳定的上场时间里发挥能力，或许该说很蠢。Monty或许可能 已经指示多传球，并且用MT在当下作为第一个得分选择。或是他可能试图利用战术安排让 MT和CP3的传球作出投三分球的空档。也许，这些他都做了。还有很多我们无法理解的是 Monty和MT两个人之间的关系。但是Monty没有或没有试着让MT有稳定的上场时间，这从来 都没有。 A capable, efficient and wildly exciting scorer, a hugely adored hometown favorite, possibly even a future all-star. That’s Marcus Thornton. I hope one day he’ll be a Hornet again. I do believe every rookie head coach should be allowed a large helping of mistakes, but I can’t help but feel that this particular mistake was an awfully big one. But what’s done is done. In the comments, I expect raucous support, vehement disagreement and a fair smattering of insults and questions about the legitimacy of my fanhood. I’ll be disappointed in anything less. Go Hornets! 一个有能力高效率又疯狂的得分手，一个受家乡人们爱戴的，甚至可能是未来的全明星球员 ，这就是MT。我希望有一天他会回到黄蜂来。我相信一个菜鸟教练都该被允许犯个大错误， 但我不禁觉得这是一个非常大的错。但是，木已成舟。....後略XD -- 花了一下午边上班边看，都搞不清楚打到哪一句了，错误一定有，请以原文为主XD --

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