※ 引述《Cortisone (可体松)》之铭言： : 标题: Re: [问题] 有关美国新法35 USC 102(b)(2)(c) : 时间: Thu Apr 12 01:12:05 2018 : : 以下为了阅读方便分成102(a)(1)和102(a)(2) : : (a)(1) the claimed invention was patented, described in a printed : publication, or in public use, on sale, or otherwise available to the : public before the effective filing date of the claimed invention; : : : (b) EXCEPTIONS.— : : (1) DISCLOSURES MADE 1 YEAR OR LESS BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE FILING DATE OF THE : CLAIMED INVENTION.—A disclosure made 1 year or less before the effective : filing date of a claimed invention shall not be prior art to the claimed : invention under subsection (a)(1) if— : : (A) the disclosure was made by the inventor or joint inventor or by another : who obtained the subject matter disclosed directly or indirectly from the : inventor or a joint inventor; or : : (B) the subject matter disclosed had, before such disclosure, been publicly : disclosed by the inventor or a joint inventor or another who obtained the : subject matter disclosed directly or indirectly from the inventor or a joint : inventor. : : -- : : (a)(2) the claimed invention was described in a patent issued under section : 151 , or in an application for patent published or deemed published under : section 122(b) , in which the patent or application, as the case may be, : names another inventor and was effectively filed before the effective filing : date of the claimed invention. : : (b) EXCEPTIONS.— : : (2) DISCLOSURES APPEARING IN APPLICATIONS AND PATENTS.—A disclosure shall : not be prior art to a claimed invention under subsection (a)(2) if— : : (A) the subject matter disclosed was obtained directly or indirectly from the : inventor or a joint inventor; : : (B) the subject matter disclosed had, before such subject matter was : effectively filed under subsection (a)(2), been publicly disclosed by the : inventor or a joint inventor or another who obtained the subject matter : disclosed directly or indirectly from the inventor or a joint inventor; or : : (C) the subject matter disclosed and the claimed invention, not later than : the effective filing date of the claimed invention, were owned by the same : person or subject to an obligation of assignment to the same person. : : : ※ 引述《PumpkinHead (PumpkinHead)》之铭言： : : 请问版上的各位大大 : : 最近读到美国新法35 USC 102(b)(2)(c) 新颖性丧失之例外 : : 以下法条原文 : : 102(b)(2) : : Exceptions.- DISCLOSURES APPEARING IN APPLICATIONS AND PATENTS- A disclosure : : shall not be prior art to a claimed invention under subsection (a)(2) if- : : (c) the subject matter disclosed and the claimed invention, not later than the : : effective filing date of the claimed invention, were owned by the the same : : person or subject to an obligation of assignment to the same person. : : 所以说根据这法条 一间公司所拥有的专利都不会变成该公司往後专利申请案的先前技术 : : 了吗 ?? : : 一个专利菜鸟的疑问 希望大家不吝指教 : : 谢谢~ : : 如果不符合红底的部分根本就逃不过102(a)(1)， : : 如果你逃过102(a)(1)，然後又符合102(a)(2)的exception，才可以不被视为prior art : 、被用102打。 : : -- :

※ 发信站: 批踢踢实业坊(ptt.cc), 来自: 123.195.2.162 : ※ 文章网址: https://webptt.com/cn.aspx?n=bbs/Patent/M.1523466729.A.E7D.html : ※ 编辑: Cortisone (123.195.2.162), 04/12/2018 01:13:23 : 推 PumpkinHead: 谢谢大大的回覆 那如果说我今天逃过了102(a)(1) 04/12 20:47 : → PumpkinHead: 102(a)(2)提到prior art是names another inventor 04/12 20:48 : → PumpkinHead: 所以会被102(a)(2)打的话 本案应该是用102(b)(1)(B) 04/12 20:50 : → PumpkinHead: 逃过的 那本案是否能再用102(b)(2)(B)逃过 04/12 20:52 : : 102(a)(1)的例外是看102(b)(1)(A), 102(b)(1)(B) : 102(a)(2)的例外是看102(b)(2)(A), 102(b)(2)(B), 102(b)(2)(C) : : 就看你手上那件是不是都不会被102 (a)(1)跟102 (a)(2)打到罗 : : 简单例子就是如果引证案是owned by the same person的、时间点只有六个月前 : 你就符合102(b)(1)(A)，不会被102(a)(1)打；符合102(b)(2)(C)，不会被102(a)(2)打 : : 如果引证案是五年前的，你就只能鼻子摸一摸乖乖破关啦 : ※ 编辑: Cortisone (223.141.72.189), 04/14/2018 00:18:18 : → musicfreshma: 推C大正解 04/14 00:24 "逃过"跟"打到"的说法其实有点模糊 所以补充一下 若被rejected under 102(a)(1)且prior art也确实满足102(a)(1)的条件 就别想用102(b)(2)(C)做disqualify 若被rejected under 102(a)(2) 先检查cited reference是否也满足102(a)(1)的条件 若不满足，且又发现cited reference的assignee就是你家客户 bingo! 恭喜你可以用102(b)(2)(C)disqualify此cited reference 而不用为了此cited reference做出任何实质的argument and/or amendment 若被rejected under 103 先检查cited reference是否满足102(a)(2)且不满足102(a)(1) 若是，且又发现cited reference的assignee就是你家客户 恭喜你又可以bingo!一次 从上面102(b)(2)(c)的玩法应该不难看出对申请策略的好处 就是只要你家客户的先申请案还没公开 i.e., 不满足102(a)(1) 都是disqualifiable的 --

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