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标题[外电] Phoenix Suns Point Guard Prospects
时间Fri May 25 02:08:40 2012
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Phoenix Suns Point Guard Prospects:
Jeremy Lin Or Goran Dragic?
无色简翻,因为这只是评论,没有真实性可言
太阳需要PG,若Nash这季离开。
Let's get a couple things out of the way first:
◆Steve Nash is the best free agent point guard on the market, but we're not
talking about him in this article
◆Sebastian Telfair will return to the Suns next season, but is no one's
Plan A as the Suns' starting point guard
◆Aaron Brooks will likely not return, but who knows. I don't think the Suns
want him back though, because they are leaning toward defensive talent
lately and Brooks has none.
目前太阳队中所有的三名PG
◆Nash是FA中最好的PG,但本文不讨论。
◆泰菲尔(Telfair)下一季会继续在太阳,但是没有人会拿他当A计画。
◆小AB很可能不会回来,但我想没关系,太阳相当需要点高防御天赋,但小AB没有这个系
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Before going too far, it's only fair to mention the other notable free agent
point guards:
◆Deron Williams - definitely the best, and deserving the max contract the
Suns could offer. But there has been no indication of mutual interest, so
it's not worth talking about now.
◆Jason Kidd, Chauncey Billups, Jason Kidd: No way. Too old. Not the right fit
for either side.
今年FA值得注意的PG
◆蝶龙(Deron Willams)-上上之选,值得花太阳所能用的钱签。但是没有任何消息指出,
双方对彼此有兴趣,so不值一提。
◆Kidd、枪西(Billups):不可能,太老,不合用。
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◆Kirk Hinrich, Andre Miller, Raymond Felton, Jameer Nelson: all would be
okay as Plan C or D or Z, if younger or more-talented prospects sign
elsewhere. They could each start and play starter's minutes ahead of
Telfair and keep the Suns competitive.
◆George Hill: fits the mold of young and defense-oriented, but is not a
floor leader destined to play 35 minutes a game at point guard for a
contender.
◆科科韩(K. Hinrich)、A米(Andre Miller)、肥顿(Felton)、Jameer Nelson -
全都是计画C、D、E。不过还是可用作泰菲尔前面,先发上场。
◆George Hill- 符合年轻、有防守的模板,但没有大将之风,担任领导的PG。
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No, the most intriguing options on the free agent market outside of Steve Nash
are former-Sun Goran Dragic and Nash-play-alike Jeremy Lin. Each has his
pluses and minuses.
Goran Dragic set the world on fire in the playoffs of 2010, especially with
his huge fourth quarter against the Spurs in Game 3. All Suns fans still
smile at that thought. Then in 2011, he regressed and many of us (not all,
but many) questioned his long-term potential as a starter. In 2012, he put
those concerns to rest. When Kyle Lowry went down, Dragic played huge minutes
and led his team to the brink of the playoffs until an unexpected team-wide
collapse in the last two weeks.
最有趣的PG选择是「前太阳球员」小帅哥(Gragic)和「Nash流」啾咪林(Jeremy Lin)。
各有优劣。
小帅哥在2010季後赛超火的,尤其是对马刺G第四节,真是现在做梦梦到都会笑。
但隔年,立马让大家失望。
不过今年,他又奋起了,凯萝(Lowry)受伤,他带领火箭冲击季後赛,直到季末整队崩溃
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In 28 starts last season, Dragic averaged 18 points, 8.4 assists and 3.5
rebounds in 35 minutes a game. Dragic seems to thrive on minutes, making
several clutch plays at the end of many pivotal games. And this on a Rockets
team with no all-stars to make his life easier. Our little Dragon grew up
last year!
Now he is an unrestricted free agent who will have many suitors who wants a
starting gig. He won't get that gig in Houston, simply because a healthy
Kyle Lowry is better than him and is already under contract. Because of
Goran's rare "youth + unrestricted" status, expect Dragic to get more money
that he rightfully deserves this summer. Don't be surprised to see offers in
the $10-million/year range.
这季小帅哥28场先发平均18分、8.4助攻、3.5篮板,出场35分钟。小帅哥在场上的时间
相当努力,投进很多不可思议的球。这都是在火箭队没有任何全明星的情况下。这一季,
我们的小龙长大了。
他今年是非受限FA,很多制服组都想要他来先发。他应该无法在火箭先发,因为健康的
凯萝比他更棒。小帅哥又「年轻」又「不受限」,可预期他能获得更高的约。千万别因
为千万年薪而下坏了。
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Jeremy Lin is a much lesser-known quantity and on a much-lower price tag,
despite his restricted free agent status. Due to the "Gilbert Arenas rule",
no one in the league can offer more Lin more than the midlevel: $5.25 million
per year, starting in 2012. A team CAN offer a big jump in pay in years 3 and
4, but the starting value is equal to the midlevel exception. Every team in
the league except the Lakers and a few others who are over the "apron" (4
million over the lux tax level) can offer Lin the same deal, including the
Knicks.
啾咪林尽管是受限的FΑ,但是他将会更便宜。因为「Gilbert Arenas条款」从2012开
始没有人可以给啾咪林大於中产以上的合约。不过可以透过3-4年的约来开更好得条件
,只要第一年不超过中产。几乎全联盟都可以对他开价,除了湖人等少数高过奢侈税
4百万的球队。
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So Lin just needs to pick the best fit for him. Long-time NBA trainer David
Thorpe thinks that "best fit" is with the Phoenix Suns.
"This is my favorite landing spot for Lin if not New York," Thorpe wrote about
the Suns. "He would certainly be a starter if Steve Nash leaves,in an offense
that is very similar to what he successfully ran as a Knick. Center Marcin
Gortat becomes an excellent ball screen partner, and they play at a speed
with which Lin is very comfortable.
对啾咪林来说,他只要挑个最适合他的球队。David Thorop,NBA资深训练员,认为合适
的球队就是太阳。
「我觉得这是林最爱得落脚处,如果不是纽约的话」
「Nash离开的话,他一定是先发。在进攻上,他在尼克的表现像极了Nash。锅贴是个完美
的掩护者,林和他一起打一定会很舒服。」
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"Even if Nash returns, the Suns would possibly have not only his long-term
replacement but someone who can provide a scoring punch off the bench as well
as an energy guy with the second unit. It's not hard to remember the impact
Leandro Barbosa had as Nash's backup. If the Suns offered enough money, Lin
will have to give that opportunity serious consideration regardless of what
Nash does."
「即使Nash留下来,太阳可能也不只需要他的长期替身,还要一个能提供得分,活力充沛
的替补,就像当年小巴担任Nash的後备一样。如果太阳开得够高,啾咪就会认真考虑,不
论Nash作何决定。」
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There are no rumors on this though. In fact, it's widely asusmed that Lin
will return to the Knicks because they can match any offer to Lin on the
market since the max he can BE offered is the midlevel exception.
对於啾咪林,并没有任何乳摸传出,事实上,大家都认为啾咪会续留尼克,因尼克足以
跟上任何对啾咪开的了的价钱(因为能开得最高也就是中产)。
However, the question is whether the Knicks would have to use their midlevel
exception for Lin, or if they can just match the offer via Bird Rights and
retain their midlevel for use in other areas. This is an important distinction,
and one currently up for arbitration. Since Lin was picked up on waivers last
season, the league argues that he lost his Bird Rights while the union argues
the opposite. If the league wins, then the Knicks just might lose Lin because
they would have to use their midlevel exception to sign Lin. Since another
team can offer a big jump in salary in years 3 and 4, the Knicks won't be
able to match it. It all depends on how an arbiter rules on Lin's status. The
league argues that Bird rights are lost in the waiver process, while the union
argues that they stay with the player.
目前唯一的能争取到啾咪的机会就是鸟权判定,如果联盟赢,尼克失去鸟权,并需开中产
签,但可能跟不上复数年的报价。联盟认为释出就丧失鸟权,但工会则主张鸟权属球员。
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这是假设太阳有兴趣之下。
而且啾咪林的先发数据只有25场,虽然场均18分、7.7助攻、三分命中率三成四,而且又
善於档拆。但他在前两年,却无法争取到上场,甚至两年就被释出两次(勇士跟火箭)。
任何球队用他,都将会是个豪赌。你觉得呢? ^.<~
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※ 编辑: toddchen 来自: 219.68.146.186 (05/25 02:09)
※ 编辑: toddchen 来自: 219.68.146.186 (05/25 02:10)
2F:推 bll135 :林书豪来打太阳,体系相近,成绩应该不会差太多。我 05/25 02:20
3F:→ bll135 :想他已经证明自己有一定实力,签不签关键在他天花板 05/25 02:21
4F:→ bll135 :到底有多高?我还是更爱小帅哥一点~~~~~~~~~ 05/25 02:21
5F:→ bll135 :话说我也觉得揪咪不会离开尼克拉XD 05/25 02:22
6F:推 JoshSmith :Lin投篮差Nash多了 还有体力 05/25 08:20
7F:推 wugui :不想要lin 可以来小帅哥就好~ 05/25 09:28
8F:→ kotako :lin和小帅都打不赢nash(指团体赛),球赛很硬的时候 05/25 09:47
9F:→ kotako :但那西单挑实在很多点都不如,lin和小帅 05/25 09:49
10F:推 henryokc :抓鸡鸡啦 05/25 10:10
11F:推 jerrys0580 :还是Dragic首选,啾咪林真的是场豪赌 05/25 10:20
12F:推 tuxpen :A计画:Dragic B计画:Lin 想太多计画:蝶龙 05/25 10:42
13F:推 DragicGoran :「前太阳球员」小帅哥(Gragic) 呜呜..... 05/25 10:55
14F:→ all035 :.......还是小帅哥比较中肯....... 05/25 11:52
15F:推 seanfaye :林有伤病史,小帅哥相较下较健康。 熟悉度上小帅哥 05/25 11:54
16F:→ seanfaye :应该比林好(对简崔用兵方式) 05/25 11:54
17F:推 MrHeat :加上华裔市场 Lin才会赢抓基基 不然还是抓基好一点 05/25 12:00
18F:→ MrHeat :Lin经验还不够 伤病状况也不明 看太阳要不要赌赌看了 05/25 12:01
19F:推 abcd810112 :我还是觉得Lin被高估的可能性很大... 05/25 13:49
20F:推 vlckcy :抓鸡凤还巢!!! 05/25 14:04
22F:推 truegodchild:Lin来的话...太阳版会大乱... 05/25 17:21
23F:推 ahahah :可以的话小帅哥吧 lin加入板上会乱到炸掉..... 05/25 18:38
24F:推 JHNJHNJHN :A~Z计画:Dragic 05/25 19:19
25F:推 kaiDX :我 要 小 帅 哥 05/25 20:00
26F:推 KEDEN :不希望LIN来 某些人的水准.........嗯 05/25 21:04
27F:推 bll135 :Lin来说不定就会看到金门王了XDDDDDDDDDDD 05/25 22:32
28F:推 MrHeat :我好像远远地看见他的影子了... 05/25 22:39
29F:推 ooox :\Dragic/\Dragic/\Dragic/\Dragic/\Dragic/\Dragic/ 05/25 23:21
30F:推 skywind77 :小帅哥快来吧!! 05/25 23:22
31F:推 hsuehroger :说不定小帅哥回来就开启了另一个太阳王朝 05/26 01:05
32F:→ hsuehroger :然後NASH+HILL也能顺利拿到冠军(梦想状态~"~ 05/26 01:06
33F:推 eiriyuki :小帅哥+1 05/26 01:12
34F:推 meteorsendo :期待小帅哥凤还巢啊! 05/26 16:34